Changes for Round 6 v Richmond Tigers

[bloodspirit]

Out: Gray, Ronke, Hayward
In: McCartin, Warner and either Brand (if available) or Gould or Stephens or Stoddart or Foot (if not available).

Does taking three small forwards out all at once mean we can no longer apply enough pressure in the front half? I'm thinking Warner can play forward and apply some of that pressure. Not as quick and good at goal scoring but a great tackler and can help us in the forward 50 contests and locking the ball in.

I'm coming round to the idea of just playing the kids that are our future. Would be nice to be able to put a bit more experience around them, but that doesn't currently seem to be a luxury that we have.

How long until Reid and Brand return? Buddy's still a way off. Naismith probably never coming back. Sinclair could be a while. No clue what's happening with Ling and Maibaum. Last I heard they were still on our list.

What's the minimum amount of time we have to give O'Connor to learn the game before setting him loose?

Right now I'm feeling pathetically grateful to have a journeyman like Cunningham, and even more so for a decent player like Hewett.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

If we keep losing, at some point the 'changes for next week thread' is going to make an appearance before the end of the game.

[i'm-uninformed2]

My frustration with Grey, Ronke and when he played Taylor is the lack of forward pressure they apply. I’ll cop them being on the low possession side if they are pinging blokes with tackles. But they don’t.

Until they do, don’t play them.

[707]

Melican groin injury?

Time to look at a couple of the kids, Gould is physically ready, played really well against men in the SANFL and was good in the Premiership for Glenelg, just play him. Warner is a hard hitting tackling machine from summer reports, just play him.

[wolftone57]

If we are looking for forward pressure and goal kicking nous then Elijiah Taylor & Sam Wicks plus James Bell would need to be considered.

If we are looking for defensive run the Stoddart, Ling Rowles.

I looking for key position players then Maibaum and Brand.

Tough tackling mids and backs then Gould, Warner & Reynolds.

Fast mids Stephens and Rowles.

I have not included Lewis Taylor

We need to move on from some of the players who have long been considered walk up starters. We need to blood younger players and also stop considering trades as starters.

We are not in contention for a top 8 spot on our form in the last two weeks. So play the Young blokes. Try Maibaum. I know the argument that will come back is: it's no good putting young blokes out on the park just to get blown away. We'll I can't think that they would be any worse than the players we are putting on the park now. After all most of them are far more naturally talented than many already out there. Oh and I would play 'Grassy' Knoll

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[Captain]

Surely giving players like Gould, Warner and Stephens a run cannot hurt.

I would bring in these three for Gray, Ronke and Clarke.

[jono2707]

No point taking a pick 5 then sitting them on the sidelines.....

[gazza]

gray,taylor and ronke are a waste of salary cap. others are at least having a go. time for some kids to play

[Ralph Dawg]

I think we need to face the fact that we are not going to come anywhere near winning the flag this year. Taking into account the cancellation of Neafl, Covid and it's effect on the integrity of season 2020 and the shortened quarters, we MUST get game time into our youngsters for their development.

As I mentioned before, there are many who will not be driving us to our next flag. If we are to be a threat, our 2017, 2018 and 2019 draftees need to kick on and the only way they will do this is with game time. Training and scratch matches will do nothing. For our next game, I would start with Gould and Stephens. They might play stinkers but that will be little change to what a few of our current team are doing.

[MattW]

Out: Gray, Ronke, Hayward
In: McCartin, Warner and either Brand (if available) or Gould or Stephens or Stoddart or Foot (if not available).

Does taking three small forwards out all at once mean we can no longer apply enough pressure in the front half? I'm thinking Warner can play forward and apply some of that pressure. Not as quick and good at goal scoring but a great tackler and can help us in the forward 50 contests and locking the ball in.

I'm coming round to the idea of just playing the kids that are our future. Would be nice to be able to put a bit more experience around them, but that doesn't currently seem to be a luxury that we have.

How long until Reid and Brand return? Buddy's still a way off. Naismith probably never coming back. Sinclair could be a while. No clue what's happening with Ling and Maibaum. Last I heard they were still on our list.

What's the minimum amount of time we have to give O'Connor to learn the game before setting him loose?

Right now I'm feeling pathetically grateful to have a journeyman like Cunningham, and even more so for a decent player like Hewett.

These are generally my thoughts. Such a bummer that we don't have more reserves games to get these lads some footy. Looks like no scratch match this weekend. (Can anyone text barracuda?)

I don't think there's much point continuing to play Gray, Ronke, Clarke and O'Riordan. Time to roll the dice on some other players. It's at least time for Warner - Rowbottom and McInerney have shown the benefit of playing young kids who have a crack.

Melican is injured. Brand was listed as 'two weeks' on Tuesday.

I think Lewis Taylor offers more than Gray.

Not at all realistic, I know it's laughable, but whatever:

OUT: Gray, Ronke, Clarke, O'Riordan, Melican
In: Lewis Taylor, Foot, Warner, Stoddart, McCartin (playing defence)

[wolftone57]

These are generally my thoughts. Such a bummer that we don't have more reserves games to get these lads some footy. Looks like no scratch match this weekend. (Can anyone text barracuda?)

I don't think there's much point continuing to play Gray, Ronke, Clarke and O'Riordan. Time to roll the dice on some other players. It's at least time for Warner - Rowbottom and McInerney have shown the benefit of playing young kids who have a crack.

Melican is injured. Brand was listed as 'two weeks' on Tuesday.

I think Lewis Taylor offers more than Gray.

Not at all realistic, I know it's laughable, but whatever:

OUT: Gray, Ronke, Clarke, O'Riordan, Melican
In: Lewis Taylor, Foot, Warner, Stoddart, McCartin (playing defence)Why would you bring Lewis Taylor back in when he had 5 disposals in each of his last two outings. I would produce youth. Forget has beens

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[Legs Akimbo]

I'd love to see a formal rotation policy. Estqblish a core group and actively rotate our youngers players around it. Those that step up could be added to the core group (occasionally). Would avoid us getting shallakings but provide all players with motivation to stay fit and motivated. Would ensure we don't have our reserves rotting in obscurity. Salvage something from this lamentable mess.

[Ralph Dawg]

I'd love to see a formal rotation policy. Estqblish a core group and actively rotate our youngers players around it. Those that step up could be added to the core group (occasionally). Would avoid us getting shallakings but provide all players with motivation to stay fit and motivated. Would ensure we don't have our reserves rotting in obscurity. Salvage something from this lamentable mess.
Agree 100%. And as part of this, make the tough decision around certain players now that they will not be part of the rebuild. One thing I noticed yesterday was that we lack pace. KB brought Ling, Stoddart, Foote and Stephens in to address this yet none can get a run. If they're not ready, then they definitely won't get ready just training and playing scratch matches. The shortened quarters should suit these guys at this stage of their career. They all should be given a block of games to show us what their potential. Gould showed in the SANFL that he can penetrate either with run or kick if HB, another area we are deficient in. Get him in and perhaps Mills can be finally freed up to play on ball.

[MattW]

Why would you bring Lewis Taylor back in when he had 5 disposals in each of his last two outings. I would produce youth. Forget has beens

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Mostly on the strength of his three goals against Essendon, when he actually looked pretty dangerous.

You'll notice the rest of the ins are young.

[Melbourne_Blood]

Apparently some senior Tigers players won’t be going to the hub, though they have t said who yet .


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[Blood Fever]

Apparently some senior Tigers players won’t be going to the hub, though they have t said who yet .


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Hope their excuses are valid otherwise very precious and entitled. Melbourne footy bubble does create some deluded egos.

[MattW]

Bad news keeps coming. McCartin still experiencing mild concussion symptoms. Hopefully he makes a full recovery soon.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/swans-out-of-tall-options-as-melican-awaits-scan-20200705-p5597n.html

[snajik]

Apparently some senior Tigers players won’t be going to the hub, though they have t said who yet .


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Houli and Edwards. Both soon to become dads.

[Melbourne_Blood]

Prestia just went off with what looks like a knee as well. We might have half a chance against them next week


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[Meg]

Prestia just went off with what looks like a knee as well. We might have half a chance against them next week


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Sounds as if Prestia injury is serious (possible ACL). Plus Cotchin and Nankervis also ended match on injury bench. Miserable on injury front for a few clubs now.

[MattW]

Prestia just went off with what looks like a knee as well. We might have half a chance against them next week


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"Prestia was assisted off the ground with an ankle injury and was distraught on the bench after the game.

Cotchin suggested post game that he’d injured his hamstring again.

Earlier, ruckman Toby Nankervis appeared to twist his lower leg during the third term and didn’t take any part in the last quarter of the game.

Star goalkicker Tom Lynch appeared to have an issue with his hand, while Nathan Broad dislocated a finger in the second term."

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They are not a tall team at key positions either, so a better match up, physically at least.

[Melbourne_Blood]

Shane Edwards and Bachar Houli are the two senior players not going to the hub. Houli has a very recent newborn and Edwards has one due in August.

Fair enough I think.


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[wolftone57]

Unless we start to play some real talent we will get blown away. No use playing blokes who will never be AFL standard. Richmond, in their 2017 premiership year, played youngsters with talent and slowly weeded out all the dross. It may be that some of our fav players could be victims of coaching for a premiership line up. So be it.

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[Blood Fever]

Shane Edwards and Bachar Houli are the two senior players not going to the hub. Houli has a very recent newborn and Edwards has one due in August.

Fair enough I think.


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Fair call

[Markwebbos]

Bad news keeps coming. McCartin still experiencing mild concussion symptoms. Hopefully he makes a full recovery soon.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/swans-out-of-tall-options-as-melican-awaits-scan-20200705-p5597n.html

One positive tucked away in that article:

“Meanwhile, both the Swans and GWS Giants are planning to set up reserves games or match simulation sessions against the visiting Victorian teams, who will be based in Sydney over the coming weeks.”

[troyjones2525]

There was another practice match today between GWS and us, hopefully there was a RWOer there as we can't expect any reasonable update from the club on any of our reserve players progress...[emoji19]

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[Velour&Ruffles]

I looking for key position players then Maibaum and Brand......


We are not in contention for a top 8 spot on our form in the last two weeks. So play the Young blokes. Try Maibaum.

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Is Maibaum still injured?
If not, I say just bring him in. What have we got to lose? With Melican injured now too our key defensive cupboard is bare. I'd rather give Maibaum a go than try a pygmy backline to go with our pygmy forward line.
And let's not forget, he was an under-18 All Australian who by all accounts was doing well against AFL types in the NEAFL before injuries set in. Surely it is worth the experiment now if his body is OK?

[Old S.M.Blood]

Why not try this?
Drop our top 10 best players for a rest (all injured for at least 3 weeks ) Or longer if we can get away with it!!!!!! Ins our next best 10 reserve players.We won't win to many games so why not rest our best, and Blood our up and comers??????

[aguy]

Stephens and bell talked up from the scratch match.

I expect Stephens to come in for gray at least. Maybe Amarty in for Melican ( groin) Aliir back to defence.

Would also like to see warner given a game for ronke but I doubt they will just yet

Bell may get a chance for Hayward. I would leave Macinerny as he as been giving good effort and looks like he is trying his guts out

[0918330512]

I don’t really understand the calls to bring in a bunch of untried new recruits all at the same time.

Sure we’re had a few losses. But we’re heavily undermanned in the talls department.

Playing a bunch of new draftees is unlikely to all of a sudden have us up and winning.

It does get senior game time into them, but what good is senior experience when it’s being flogged week in-week out? Traditionally, I think bringing them in more slowly helps the young kids gain experience and confidence among the core senior players who they can learn off.

Saying that you don’t take a pick 5 to play him in the magoos is rubbish. You take a pick 5 because you see talent in him, but that talent might not be senior ready for some time. Rushing him doesn’t help develop that talent or have his body physically ready to match it with the big boys, the mature, AFL seasoned bodies.

So making wholesale changes to bring in youth will likely make a painful season for players and supporters alike.

[Ralph Dawg]

Tigers might have up to 7 out! Having said that, they have alot of depth. At this stage, my changes would be (providing they are fit)

In Stephens Amartey Maibaum Gould
Out Ronke Gray Melican Hayward

Hayward spent most his time on a wing and HB. His composure and decision making need more work to play as a defender - needs time in reserves. Surely Gould as a specialist defender would fill the brief better. Gray looked slow and not up to the pace of the game. Ronke barely did a thing.

[snajik]

Yes but if by some freak of nature we beat Richmond, be prepared for the endless commentary about how the Tigers had all these players out plus they had to play interstate.

[MattW]

Yes but if by some freak of nature we beat Richmond, be prepared for the endless commentary about how the Tigers had all these players out plus they had to play interstate.

I'd cop that, because it'd be glorious nonetheless.

[Captain]

In: Fox (to play as 2nd tall defender), Stephens
Out: Melican (injured), Gray

[barry]

Rumour is that Cotchin faked his injury to get out of going to the hub.
Tigers are ripe for the picking!

[Markwebbos]

It’s a worry that Stephens, noted for his kicking as a draftee is now struggling with it. I wondered if he’d be worth bringing in to tag in place of Clarke, given his tank etc as this would take off some of the pressure.

If there’s no replacement for Melican then surely Amartey has to ruck.

I know it’s a risk but I would love to bring in someone to release Mills. Give Gould a block of games and let him sink or swim.

[aguy]

Rumour is that Cotchin faked his injury to get out of going to the hub.
Tigers are ripe for the picking!

I had wondered that too. But there is photo of Cotchin on the plane With the team so looks like he has gone

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It’s a worry that Stephens, noted for his kicking as a draftee is now struggling with it. I wondered if he’d be worth bringing in to tag in place of Clarke, given his tank etc as this would take off some of the pressure.

If there’s no replacement for Melican then surely Amartey has to ruck.

I know it’s a risk but I would love to bring in someone to release Mills. Give Gould a block of games and let him sink or swim.
I’m with you. Give amarty a go against soldo. And play Gould and Stephens. Let’s see what they’ve got. A perfect chance against injury riddled tigers

[waswan]

You really have to wonder if a Top 5 pick cant get a game, in this team, with so many passengers and with all these injuries, why did we pick him.

Play the bloody kid, he earnt his stripes as a Top 10, the NEAFL isnt playing and if it was it is well below the level any of our draft picks were playing at last year.

Gould got 18 touches in a SANFL GF, 10 months ago, for christ sake

[Bexl]

Tigers might have up to 7 out! Having said that, they have alot of depth. At this stage, my changes would be (providing they are fit)

In Stephens Amartey Maibaum Gould
Out Ronke Gray Melican Hayward

Hayward spent most his time on a wing and HB. His composure and decision making need more work to play as a defender - needs time in reserves. Surely Gould as a specialist defender would fill the brief better. Gray looked slow and not up to the pace of the game. Ronke barely did a thing.

Swap Maibaum for Brand and I think thats ok.

[aguy]

Sound like Gould wasn’t that great in the scratch match. Shame because I was very excited when we picked him. I miss NEAFL

Injuries to ronke Melican

Out Ronke Melican Hayward Gray
In Stephens Brand Amarty Warner

[waswan]

Im not a firm believer in guys dropping a level and dominating..... doesnt always happen.

Young guys can play well at a high level doesnt mean they always dominate a lower level and vica versa.

Look at Clarke last year, other than Mitchell no one has had a higher possession NEAFL game.

The system a team plays doesn't always help either, clearly we have a handball game and last week thw amount of handballs to a guy under pressure was crazy.

[Markwebbos]

Sound like Gould wasn’t that great in the scratch match. Shame because I was very excited when we picked him. I miss NEAFL

Injuries to ronke Melican

Out Ronke Melican Hayward Gray
In Stephens Brand Amarty Warner

Brand is available and “possibly” McCartin. Sam Reid and Sinkers another week away.

Brand for Melican
Wicks for Ronke
Stephens for Clarke
Amartey for Gray move Mills to the mids and Aliir to defend

[dejavoodoo44]

Brand is available and “possibly” McCartin. Sam Reid and Sinkers another week away.

Brand for Melican
Wicks for Ronke
Stephens for Clarke
Amartey for Gray move Mills to the mids and Aliir to defend
That's close to my preference. Except I thought that Clarke was better last week, than a few people are giving him credit for. So I'd leave him in and let Stephens continue to develop for a week or two longer, in the scratch match league.

[mattybloods]

Brand for Melican
Wicks for Ronke
Stephens for Clarke
Amartey for Gray move Mills to the mids and Aliir to defend

I like these changes but I would like to see Warner instead of Wicks, sounds like he goes in hard and will bring energy to a side that needs it.

Aliir is not a ruck. At his best he is a top tier intercept marker. Throwing him around in the ruck does nothing for his confidence; let him stick to what he's good at.

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[mattybloods]

Also Clarke held Gaff to 18, he might stay for now

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[KSAS]

I like these changes but I would like to see Warner instead of Wicks, sounds like he goes in hard and will bring energy to a side that needs it.

Aliir is not a ruck. At his best he is a top tier intercept marker. Throwing him around in the ruck does nothing for his confidence; let him stick to what he's good at.

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+1

There's a chance Sinclair, Reid & McCartin will be available for selection next week which will give our KPP a real boost and free up some players to play in their best positions.

Going by Barracuda's scratch match update, i would make the following changes for this week:
Brand for Melican
Stephens for Clarke
Stoddard for O'Roirdan
Warner for Ronke
Amartey for Gray

Would like to see Stephens, Stoddard, Warner & Amartey be given a block of matches to prove their wares (like McInnery), realising Amartey & McLean are likely to make way early as next week for either combination of Sinclair, Reid or McCartin.

[dazedjosh]

Amartey for Gray

Would like to see Stephens, Stoddard, Warner & Amartey be given a block of matches to prove their wares (like McInnery), realising Amartey & McLean are likely to make way early as next week for either combination of Sinclair, Reid or McCartin.

Longmire just said in his press conference that Amartey got injured in the scratch match on the weekend. Groin, 2 weeks out. Goddamnit.......

McCartin was also confirmed as out. Brand is a chance of playing, no mention of Maibaum or Gould but surely they both must be a chance just to sheer lack of numbers and size. Gould might not be super tall, but he plays like a big unit and throws his body around.

[MattW]

Longmire just said in his press conference that Amartey got injured in the scratch match on the weekend. Groin, 2 weeks out. Goddamnit.......

McCartin was also confirmed as out. Brand is a chance of playing, no mention of Maibaum or Gould but surely they both must be a chance just to sheer lack of numbers and size. Gould might not be super tall, but he plays like a big unit and throws his body around.

FFS.

[dazedjosh]

I'm sure more people will get injured this week and join Amartey on the sidelines. At this rate it seems inevitable. Let's play a game with everybody under 180cm and see what happens.

I don't think there's an emoji that properly conveys my emotions, crying/laughing/screaming? I'm open to suggestions.

[aguy]

With amarty our injured I reckon Gould has to come in now.

Aliir back to ruck and Gould and brand back

[KSAS]

Longmire just said in his press conference that Amartey got injured in the scratch match on the weekend. Groin, 2 weeks out. Goddamnit.......

McCartin was also confirmed as out. Brand is a chance of playing, no mention of Maibaum or Gould but surely they both must be a chance just to sheer lack of numbers and size. Gould might not be super tall, but he plays like a big unit and throws his body around.

With ALL our ruck stocks out i reckon the match committee might seriously consider rushing Sinclair back this week, but most likely won't & try grind it out for another week with makeshift ruck. Hopefully we'll see reinforcements next week. Horse's philosophy of not gifting games will be sorely tested this week.

[Ludwig]

With Amartey out as well, Fox is our next in line ruckman. Good chance he would have otherwise played this week.

Groin injuries spreading faster than Covid. I wonder if there's a connection.

Next year we'll have Errol Gulden to add to our ruck stocks. :tongue:

[Markwebbos]

With amarty our injured I reckon Gould has to come in now.

Aliir back to ruck and Gould and brand back

I have concluded that Horse’s overwhelming priority is picking the strongest team each week, with little consideration of player development or the longer term view.

So I think he’ll keep plugging holes and applying band aids. Aliir stays in the ruck, Mills in defence etc.

I’d love to be proved wrong but I think it will be:

Brand for Melican
Taylor for Ronke

[MattW]

I have concluded that Horse’s overwhelming priority is picking the strongest team each week, with little consideration of player development or the longer term view.

So I think he’ll keep plugging holes and applying band aids. Aliir stays in the ruck, Mills in defence etc.

I’d love to be proved wrong but I think it will be:

Brand for Melican
Taylor for Ronke

Agree on the ins and re Aliir and Mills.

But I think they'll be more adventurous. I think it's Taylor or Gray, not both. I'd prefer the former - he's shown greater capacity to hurt the opposition.

I have some optimism they'll pull the trigger on Warner for Gray - inject a bit of hunger and hardness.

I'd love to see Stoddart for O'Riordan as well.

[Markwebbos]

It’s relatively unusual for the Swans to stick young players straight into the midfield (Rowbum is one noteable exception), so I wonder if they’d give Stephens a crack as a pressure forward replacement for Ronke?

[Ralph Dawg]

Joey is one of our tallest players now. He's listed at 188cm but I reckon if he didn't hunch so much, he'd be a good 10cm taller. Suspect it's from all those years with his head over the ball. At this rate, he's going to get a start as our ruckman, FF or FB!
(only kidding........)

[waswan]

I have concluded that Horse’s overwhelming priority is picking the strongest team each week

If thats the case, I think Horse needs to revisit the tape

He has seasoned guys, who over a 4 week period, cant get more than 10 touches a game.

Id be willing to bet the team wouldnt be any weaker rotating those strong players out with 1st year players.

On a side note, this is probably the most exciting draft picks we have had since Mills and here we are without NEAFL and far from dominating not giving any of them a game - Go figure

[waswan]

Connor Buderick

19 Yr Old, 174cm 75kg, Pick 16 Rookie Draft, Already has a Rising Star Nomination

Our blokes must be feeling the love

[Markwebbos]

I note that the Swans says Reid may return this week, which isn’t how I read Charlie Gardeners comments!

Would be a handy in and potentially free up Aliir to go back ... Mills you know where etc

[Markwebbos]

Connor Buderick

19 Yr Old, 174cm 75kg, Pick 16 Rookie Draft, Already has a Rising Star Nomination

Our blokes must be feeling the love

Swans played Paps in game 1 off the rookie list. And Harry Cunningham too. Its clearly player dependent.

[Mark26]

Next year we'll have Errol Gulden to add to our ruck stocks. :tongue:

Had me chuckling there Ludwig. Let's hope we can get another pick before we pick up Campbell and Spider Gulden.

[Meg]

I note that the Swans says Reid may return this week, which isn’t how I read Charlie Gardeners comments!

Would be a handy in and potentially free up Aliir to go back ... Mills you know where etc

Misleading headline, article says what Gardiner said. Unlikely to see Reid in this week.

[Sandrevan]

Someone on here mentioned the Swans are playing a handball dominated game. This makes sense when there are no tall players to kick to.

Richmond, despite having injuries and 2 players staying in Melbourne still have their KPP intact. Grimes and Astbury (& Vlastuin) in defence and Reiwoldt in attack. They still have the option to bring in Noah Balta in to add height. We're decimated for height - McLean, Aliir, daylight then Dawson (190 cm).

Richmond are also very good at disrupting the ground level game.
If the earth opened up and swallowed Dusty we might be in with a chance.

[Sandrevan]

Forgot about Blakey (195 cm)

[AnnieH]

We've got no one to bring in.
They just have to go out and do their best.
Maybe turn up for more than five minutes per quarter.

[Ludwig]

I'd love to see Stoddart for O'Riordan as well.You're not the only one, MattW, who has singled out O'Riordan for demotion, but I don't see a compelling reason for dropping him. He is down from last year, especially the attacking part of his game. I feel that he's been instructed to focus on his defence first and rebuild his confidence after last year's injury. He was making very good progress last year before he got injured. I don't see why he can't continue on that course. I think he's heading to be be our lock down small defender. It will take time to learn to control some of the most talented players in the comp. I don't envy a player in that role.

I also would love to see Stoddart get a game, but rather replacing Mills so that Mills can finally play midfield.

[rb4x]

Someone on here mentioned the Swans are playing a handball dominated game. This makes sense when there are no tall players to kick to.

Richmond, despite having injuries and 2 players staying in Melbourne still have their KPP intact. Grimes and Astbury (& Vlastuin) in defence and Reiwoldt in attack. They still have the option to bring in Noah Balta in to add height. We're decimated for height - McLean, Aliir, daylight then Dawson (190 cm).

Richmond are also very good at disrupting the ground level game.
If the earth opened up and swallowed Dusty we might be in with a chance.

Astbury is injured

[aguy]

I’ve heard there is some tv footage of horse saying we are debuting 2 midfielders this week.

Anyone seen that ?

[Melbourne_Blood]

I’ve heard there is some tv footage of horse saying we are debuting 2 midfielders this week.

Anyone seen that ?

Nope, where’d you hear that ?


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[MattW]

You're not the only one, MattW, who has singled out O'Riordan for demotion, but I don't see a compelling reason for dropping him. He is down from last year, especially the attacking part of his game. I feel that he's been instructed to focus on his defence first and rebuild his confidence after last year's injury. He was making very good progress last year before he got injured. I don't see why he can't continue on that course. I think he's heading to be be our lock down small defender. It will take time to learn to control some of the most talented players in the comp. I don't envy a player in that role.

I also would love to see Stoddart get a game, but rather replacing Mills so that Mills can finally play midfield.

OK. You may be right they're developing O'Riordan as a lockdown defender. He has the courage for it and I know it's a very hard role, but he looks a long way off in body work, tackling smarts and capacity to read leads. Sorry to be harsh, but I am not confident he has it in him. Where he's shown the most is in rebounding and kicking (although can be dodgy under pressure).

From what we've seen of Stoddart he's more of a pure rebounder although can mark and it'd be interesting to see what he's capable of with more bulk.

On Stoddart replacing Mills - do they have the same role? They are playing Mills more as an intercepting third tall defender aren't they?

It's hard to see a future elite lock down defender elsewhere on our list. I was interested to read barracuda suggest Foot playing off half-back - I thought he was playing forward.

[MattW]

I’ve heard there is some tv footage of horse saying we are debuting 2 midfielders this week.

Anyone seen that ?

It certainly wasn't in his midweek presser.

He did pretty much say Amartey would have played if fit and conceded that Aliir really struggled.

But I think they have no choice but to play Aliir in there again. Richmond is a much better match up to play without a ruck, noting Aliir is more agile than Soldo and would otherwise be rucking against fellow non-specialists.

[aguy]

Nope, where’d you hear that ?


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From a friend on Twitter. I’m asking him where he saw it. Even said the foootage was of him telling them they would play. One short with curly hair. ??

[dazedjosh]

OK. You may be right they're developing O'Riordan as a lockdown defender. He has the courage for it and I know it's a very hard role, but he looks a long way off in body work, tackling smarts and capacity to read leads. Sorry to be harsh, but I am not confident he has it in him. Where he's shown the most is in rebounding and kicking (although can be dodgy under pressure).

From what we've seen of Stoddart he's more of a pure rebounder although can mark and it'd be interesting to see what he's capable of with more bulk.

On Stoddart replacing Mills - do they have the same role? They are playing Mills more as an intercepting third tall defender aren't they?

It's hard to see a future elite lock down defender elsewhere on our list. I was interested to read barracuda suggest Foot playing off half-back - I thought he was playing forward.

COR as a lockdown would be interesting, but I'd like to throw another name in the ring as a lockdown small, Ryan Clarke. His kicking is woeful, but he can stick to an opponent like glue, is hard at the ball, and lays a good tackle. He seems like the sort of guy who'd relish a career doing the dirty work. Just a thought. COR, Stoddart, Ling (if he ever plays), they all add dash off half back and can push up onto the wing. Clarke is basically just a second tagger behind Hewett.

[aguy]

Warner and Stephens to debut

[Mark26]

Warner and Stephens to debut

Just saw it too. I'm stoked. Hope they have a blinder!

[aguy]

So I predict

In Stephens Warner Brand
Out Ronke Melican. Plus who else ?

I want gray out but I reckon they might drop Macinerny. I hope not because I’ve liked Macinernys energy. But I can see them playing Warner for his pressure ala ronke and Stephens playing the wing outside role that Macinerny has been playing

[Mel_C]

Joey is one of our tallest players now. He's listed at 188cm but I reckon if he didn't hunch so much, he'd be a good 10cm taller. Suspect it's from all those years with his head over the ball. At this rate, he's going to get a start as our ruckman, FF or FB!
(only kidding........)
I've noticed the past couple of weeks that Kennedy seems to have lost some weight. He looks gaunt in the face. I hope he is ok.

[waswan]

Hooray, neither looks too small next to Kennedy

[Ludwig]

Looking forward to the matchup between Aliir and Mabior Chol. Could be a wake-up call for Aliir as I'm sure he wants to be known as the best Sudanese player in the AFL, but he's got some real competition in Chol.

[TheBloods]

Hoping for changes that make sense this week, unlike every other week so far this year.

Brand in for Melican.
Stephens in for McInerney.
Warner in for Ronke.

I would go one step further and say Bell and Wicks in for Hayward and Gray . Aliir would not be getting games were it not for our injury crisis to the talls.

[Blood Fever]

Hoping for changes that make sense this week, unlike every other week so far this year.

Brand in for Melican.
Stephens in for McInerney.
Warner in for Ronke.

I would go one step further and say Bell and Wicks in for Hayward and Gray . Aliir would not be getting games were it not for our injury crisis to the talls.

Should persist with McInerney - highly promising.

[TheBloods]

Should persist with McInerney - highly promising.

Am thinking like for like - looked weak in the contest against the Weagles so may need a spell

[dazedjosh]

JMac has been willing to take the game on and has great energy. I'd like to see us stick with him and see how he develops for a few more games, he makes mistakes that young guys make when he tries to rush things, sometimes you just have to wear those mistakes as they develop.

I agree that Hayward might need to be dropped. He's been playing like he's carrying an injury. I remember seeing him get his elbow checked but that's just speculation.

[MattW]

Warner and Stephens to debut

Excited about this, as I'm sure we all are.

Loved the quote from Warner in the interview on the official site: 'can't wait to go out there are smash it'.

[Ralph Dawg]

Am thinking like for like - looked weak in the contest against the Weagles so may need a spell
The kid can play. Ran himself to a stand still on Saturday. Given we're we are at and overall nature of season 2020, he should stay. I think there's more upside in him than others at the moment.

[Ralph Dawg]

As well as the 2 debutants, looks like Brand and Reid are a chance. My prediction FWIW
Ins Stephens Warner Brand Reid
Outs Gray Ronke Melican Hayward

[waswan]

The kid can play. Ran himself to a stand still on Saturday. Given we're we are at and overall nature of season 2020, he should stay. I think there's more upside in him than others at the moment.

Rated him after last weekend, wasnt as big on him before
Ran himself ragged and has pacw few others have.
Burnt off Tim Kelly on the wing, just fumbled it.

[Blood Fever]

Rated him after last weekend, wasnt as big on him before
Ran himself ragged and has pacw few others have.
Burnt off Tim Kelly on the wing, just fumbled it.

Potential gun. If so, another late pick coup. Huge upside. Very quick and big ticker.

[aguy]

Looks like most of us were very happy with jMacs effort and intent.

That probably means he gets dropped knowing how accurate our predictions usually are.

[Mr Magoo]

Looks like most of us were very happy with jMacs effort and intent.

That probably means he gets dropped knowing how accurate our predictions usually are.

Excited for the kids but geez it shows the lack of depth we currently have when we are debuting two kids with absolutely zero experience except a couple of scratch matches against the reigning premier. Good luck to them and like the enthusiasm but in reality we shouldnt expect much.

I actually feel sorry for the likes of Wicks, Bell , Stoddart and other more senior guys who havent been given much or any opportunity to see if they could cut it. They are the ones at the pointy end of delistings this year. The consistent reports Ive read on Wicks is that his tackle pressure is excellent so at the very least couldnt do much worse than Hayward up front whose only attribute at the moment is same.

[waswan]

Excited for the kids but geez it shows the lack of depth we currently have when we are debuting two kids with absolutely zero experience

Pick 5 plays Round 1 every year

[Mr Magoo]

Pick 5 plays Round 1 every year

I didnt know that and maybe would give me confidence if he had an experienced team around him but we arent anywhere near that at the moment.

Hopefully they both prove me wrong .

[Ludwig]

Excited for the kids but geez it shows the lack of depth we currently have when we are debuting two kids with absolutely zero experience except a couple of scratch matches against the reigning premier.It is actually indicative of how much depth we DO have, since even with a plethora of injuries, it's still very hard to crack into the senior team. BTW, every debutante plays his first game having zero AFL experience.

[Mr Magoo]

It is actually indicative of how much depth we DO have, since even with a plethora of injuries, it's still very hard to crack into the senior team. BTW, every debutante plays his first game having zero AFL experience.

Firstly I did mean - no NEAFL or real preseason experience as opposed to Afl level .

I beg to differ on the question of depth - our injuries are in our big men not our midfield .

So do you think we are travelling well with strong depth ?

[Ludwig]

So do you think we are travelling well with strong depth ?No. Just being annoying.

[Ralph Dawg]

There are two precedents to look at here. The first is Carlton, who have played alot of kids over the last few years for seemingly little huge improvement.

The other is GWS who use to get flogged all the time but now are a premiership powerhouse being driven by many of the kids who use to cop the hidings (admittedly many are the cream of the talent).

If we end up coping some blow outs, hopefully our youngsters will learn and come out the other side better players.

[Markwebbos]

Excited about this, as I'm sure we all are.

Loved the quote from Warner in the interview on the official site: 'can't wait to go out there are smash it'.

Looking forward to seeing Crazy Chad getting amongst it.

Hope they give him a job to do e.g. Martin

'Calm down': Why Horse had a word to feisty Sydney smokey (https://www.afl.com.au/news/372514/-calm-down-why-horse-had-a-word-to-feisty-sydney-smokey)

During a recent pre-season training session, Warner was his usual combative self. So much so that Sydney coach John Longmire had to stop proceedings for a quiet word with the midfielder.

[giant]

The kid can play. Ran himself to a stand still on Saturday. Given we're we are at and overall nature of season 2020, he should stay. I think there's more upside in him than others at the moment.

"Weak in the contest" seemed a strange comment to me, but he did look cooked by the end. I've liked what I've seen but I won't be shocked if they give him a break.

[Mr Magoo]

No. Just being annoying.

:rofl

[rickmat]

Very encouraged to see 2 of our young talented recruits being given the opportunity to play this week against Tigers. Nothing to lose by giving these boys a taste. Two different talents, one has silky skills and the other tough and ball winner. Looking forward to both showcasing their talent. Hopefully more of the young talent given an opportunity this season. Current players such as Clark, Lewis Taylor, Gray are not making a difference in the team and I'd rather play young hungry talent who give 500% a go in a lost season such as this year is. We need to keep blooding more of our young guys when there is the opportunity

[jono2707]

If we want a tagger, Clarke stays in. That seems to be pretty much what he does well, so for him it's probably a week to week proposition based on needs. And that depends on whether we want to free up George,l from being a tagger, which I'd hope so.

Stoked to see the two youngsters debuting - in a season that's shaping up as a bit bleak results-wise, the blooding of new talent can often be some sun shining through the clouds....

[troyjones2525]

You're not the only one, MattW, who has singled out O'Riordan for demotion, but I don't see a compelling reason for dropping him. He is down from last year, especially the attacking part of his game. I feel that he's been instructed to focus on his defence first and rebuild his confidence after last year's injury. He was making very good progress last year before he got injured. I don't see why he can't continue on that course. I think he's heading to be be our lock down small defender. It will take time to learn to control some of the most talented players in the comp. I don't envy a player in that role.

I also would love to see Stoddart get a game, but rather replacing Mills so that Mills can finally play midfield.Agree here. Didn't think he was that bad. He was a little quiet but usually kicks well and makes decent attacking decisions when he gets it which is a breath of fresh air. We need all the fast players who kick well as we can get!

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[crackedactor 01]

Yes seen him in action and he is a real hard nut. Reminds me a lot of young Luke Parker. Hope he can play like him in the big league.

[Velour&Ruffles]

Very encouraged to see 2 of our young talented recruits being given the opportunity to play this week against Tigers. Nothing to lose by giving these boys a taste. Two different talents, one has silky skills and the other tough and ball winner. Looking forward to both showcasing their talent. Hopefully more of the young talent given an opportunity this season. Current players such as Clark, Lewis Taylor, Gray are not making a difference in the team and I'd rather play young hungry talent who give 500% a go in a lost season such as this year is. We need to keep blooding more of our young guys when there is the opportunity

I would be happy with a meagre 300% effort, but I must concede I have never been a demanding taskmaster.

[Rod_]

Would love to see both of the new kids get in Dusty's face and bring a little huff and puff just prior to the first bounce! What a statement to the footy world (I thought of it first BTW)

[Melbourne_Blood]

Would love to see both of the new kids get in Dusty's face and bring a little huff and puff just prior to the first bounce! What a statement to the footy world (I thought of it first BTW)

For Stephens sake I hope he doesn’t do that, not sure it ends too well for him. Warner might be okay though.


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[TheBloods]

Warner will hopefully grow into the next Parker. Not the flashiest or most talented on the ground, but he'll never die wondering.

[TheBloods]

Poor Ollie doing the press conference this morning. You see some players have the knack for public speaking. Unfortunately not the case for Florent.

[Ludwig]

Warner will hopefully grow into the next Parker. Not the flashiest or most talented on the ground, but he'll never die wondering.Something interesting is that at least one Swan draftee finished in the top 10 in every draft combine category last year, with usually more than one in the rankings.

Warner is no slouch. You may find he's got a bit of flash. He finished 6th in the Agility Run, ahead of Stephens who was 10th, but behind Elijah Taylor, who came in 2nd. And Warner finished 4th in the Yo-Yo test; no other Swan finished in the top 10.

Stephens is quick and has endurance as well. He finished 10th in both the agility and sprint tests, and 3rd in the time trial.

[TheBloods]

Something interesting is that at least one Swan draftee finished in the top 10 in every draft combine category last year, with usually more than one in the rankings.

Warner is no slouch. You may find he's got a bit of flash. He finished 6th in the Agility Run, ahead of Stephens who was 10th, but behind Elijah Taylor, who came in 2nd. And Warner finished 4th in the Yo-Yo test; no other Swan finished in the top 10.

Stephens is quick and has endurance as well. He finished 10th in both the agility and sprint tests, and 3rd in the time trial.

I'm sure Warner has some tricks up his sleeve, as Parker does. But his highlights reel didn't consist of anything besides tackling and a few contested hard ball wins. This is also no doubt what he is in the team for. So I'm not expecting much beyond that, nor does he have to do anything beyond that. Very excited to see he and Stephens combining with our other young midfielders.

Not expecting a favourable result though.

[ugg]

In: Bell, Fox, Stephens, Stoddart, L.Taylor, Warner
Out: Ronke (injured), Melican (injured)

Ext bench is Stoddart, Cunningham, McInerney, Aliir, Bell, Fox, L.Taylor, Warner


Richmond
In: Bolton, Coleman-Jones, Collier-Dawkins, Eggmolesse-Smith, Garthwaite, Graham, Pickett, Ross, Soldo
Out: Cotchin (injured), Edwards (managed), Houli (managed), Nankervis (injured) Prestia (injured)

[Markwebbos]

In: Bell, Fox, Stephens, Stoddart, L.Taylor, Warner
Out: Ronke (injured), Melican (injured)

Ext bench is Stoddart, Cunningham, McInerney, Aliir, Bell, Fox, L.Taylor, Warner


Richmond
In: Bolton, Coleman-Jones, Collier-Dawkins, Eggmolesse-Smith, Garthwaite, Graham, Pickett, Ross, Soldo
Out: Cotchin (injured), Edwards (managed), Houli (managed), Nankervis (injured) Prestia (injured)

No Brand or Reid unfortunately

[Ludwig]

In: Bell, Fox, Stephens, Stoddart, L.Taylor, Warner
Out: Ronke (injured), Melican (injured)

Ext bench is Stoddart, Cunningham, McInerney, Aliir, Bell, Fox, L.Taylor, Warner


Richmond
In: Bolton, Coleman-Jones, Collier-Dawkins, Eggmolesse-Smith, Garthwaite, Graham, Pickett, Ross, Soldo
Out: Cotchin (injured), Edwards (managed), Houli (managed), Nankervis (injured) Prestia (injured)I believe this sets a new record for inclusions with hyphenated names. Could be historic game.

It's probably just a coincidence, but I had Egg Molesse with Tahouli for lunch today.

[Nico]

Is there a message in the extended bench?

[longmile]

Fox to ruck and Alliir in defence?

Sheesh has a team ever had so many injuries to almost exclusively tall players?

[The Big Cat]

Is there a message in the extended bench?

Only change will be Stephens and Warner for Melican and Ronke. Thank goodness Hayward seems safe.

[aguy]

So bench willl be trimmed to

Aliir Cunningham Warner and (Macinerny or Lewis).

I hope it’s jmac as I don’t want Gray and Lewis in the same team

[707]

Going to be very wet so lucky we're not a tall side. Reckon Warner will love it given he's got pace and loves a tackle, good day for it!

[Meg]

lucky we're not a tall side!

Haha! I wouldn’t quite put it that way, but I understand your point.

[Auntie.Gerald]

the style of footy that the AFL has at the moment probably lends itself to tackling machines like Warner

Will be interesting - but I suspect we see him tagging and learning as per most introductions to Snr footy

welcome Mad Dog Warner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=YeS33pmT7RA

[ugg]

With Melican injured, Brand, McCartin, and Reid unavailable and Aliir most likely needed for the ruck I think Fox will get a game as a tall defender. Otherwise we’ll have to play Mills on Riewoldt :/

[aguy]

Do we think jmac misses ?

[TheBloods]

Do we think jmac misses ?

When your options are between McInerney, Fox, Stoddart or Squizzy Taylor, does it really matter? Might as well bring in a door-stop as player 22.

That being said none of those options will provide any more or less than McInerney, so might as well give him another run.

[MattW]

Do we think jmac misses ?

Really shouldn't.

[Blood Fever]

Really shouldn't.

Agree. Unless he is 'managed'

[Ludwig]

With Melican injured, Brand, McCartin, and Reid unavailable and Aliir most likely needed for the ruck I think Fox will get a game as a tall defender. Otherwise we’ll have to play Mills on Riewoldt :/I think Rampe will take Riewoldt, whcih he usually does anyway. Aliir will play on Mabior Chol, whether Chol plays forward or in the ruck. If Lynch plays, we just have to hope he can't take a mark with a broken hand. Fox to do some ruck work as well, if selected.

[aguy]

Really shouldn't.

I don’t want him to miss. It’s Important for my fantasy team 🤣

[Nico]

I believe this sets a new record for inclusions with hyphenated names. Could be historic game.

It's probably just a coincidence, but I had Egg Molesse with Tahouli for lunch today.

Tahouli's not playing.

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Just heard a rumour that Papley is taking the ruck at centre bounces.

[aguy]

Papley is perfect for the centre bounce rucks. Every contest ends with high contact free to us

[Captain]

I think Rampe will take Riewoldt, whcih he usually does anyway. Aliir will play on Mabior Chol, whether Chol plays forward or in the ruck. If Lynch plays, we just have to hope he can't take a mark with a broken hand. Fox to do some ruck work as well, if selected.

So who do you have playing on Lynch?

[Ludwig]

Tahouli's not playing.
Maybe in your stomach it's not playing.

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/sites/default/files/styles/recipe/public/recipe/recipe-image/2016/04/kale-bulghar-tabbouleh-with-yogurt-dressing.jpg?itok=J5-kFEGl2263
Egg Molesse with a bit of extra Tahouli on the side




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So who do you have playing on Lynch?No one. We just let him kick as many goals as he likes.

[Meg]

Papley is perfect for the centre bounce rucks. Every contest ends with high contact free to us

He would certainly be like an annoying little yapping terrier nipping at your ankles!

[ugg]

Final changes

In: Stephens, Stoddart, Warner
Out: McInerney (omitted), Melican (injured), Ronke (injured)

Richmond only picked one of the double barrelled guys

In: Bolton, Eggmolesse-Smith, Graham, Pickett, Soldo
Out: Cotchin (injured), Edwards (managed), Houli (managed), Nankervis (injured), Prestia (injured)

[Blood Fever]

Final changes

In: Stephens, Stoddart, Warner
Out: McInerney (omitted), Melican (injured), Ronke (injured)

Richmond only picked one of the double barrelled guys

In: Bolton, Eggmolesse-Smith, Graham, Pickett, Soldo
Out: Cotchin (injured), Edwards (managed), Houli (managed), Nankervis (injured), Prestia (injured)

Hope Stoddard can consolidate. Beautiful kick which we don't have a lot of.

[Bexl]

Hope Stoddard can consolidate. Beautiful kick which we don't have a lot of.

Happy to see Stoddard playing. Not sure why Hayward is still in.

[Melbourne_Blood]

Mcinerney a little stiff, certainly shown a bit so far this year.


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[Markwebbos]

Happy to see Stoddard playing. Not sure why Hayward is still in.

The incriminating photos theory grows more plausible each week

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Mcinerney a little stiff, certainly shown a bit so far this year.


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I agree. Hopefully it a rest rather than form

[MattW]

Hope Stoddard can consolidate. Beautiful kick which we don't have a lot of.

Yep, the time is now. Unless he's clearly unplayable, I hope they give him 5+ games to settle in.

If selected as set up, Dawson is playing as a tall defender. He went alright in that role late and we've no choice but to try things. Similarly, if Hayward plays out of the goal square, I think it's his most dangerous spot.

Really like the ins. McInerney stiff. Go Swans.

[TheBloods]

The incriminating photos theory grows more plausible each week

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I agree. Hopefully it a rest rather than form

If he needs a rest after having had one two matches ago, he shouldn't be in the team anyway. We're already carrying too many passengers, we need players who can lock down a spot in the team with their form and keep it.

[Ludwig]

Big game with big questions:


Who is the better left foot kick? Stoddart or Egg Mollesse ?
Who the best Sudaness player in the AFL? Aliir Aliir or Mabior Chol?
Will Tom Lynch be defended by a groundhog?
How many Collingwood players will be arrested this weekend?
Will the world still be spinning Monday morning?

[707]

Here's why this change has been made, words courtesy Barracuda - Stoddart: Played well and what he did was clean and purposeful. Some nice clean marking with good ball movement.

McInerney did make some poor decisions last week, time again to see what Stoddart has at senior level.

[Blood Fever]

Here's why this change has been made, words courtesy Barracuda - Stoddart: Played well and what he did was clean and purposeful. Some nice clean marking with good ball movement.

McInerney did make some poor decisions last week, time again to see what Stoddart has at senior level.

Still think Mcnerney will be a real.player. Still a baby.

[Odysseus]

the style of footy that the AFL has at the moment probably lends itself to tackling machines like Warner

Will be interesting - but I suspect we see him tagging and learning as per most introductions to Snr footy

welcome Mad Dog Warner

YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=YeS33pmT7RA)

I'm hoping that last weekend's AFL "rule of the week" - sorry, Clarko's "rule of the week" - can be extended to rule of the fortnight. In that case, our young fella will be getting free kicks all over the ground.

[troyjones2525]

Hayward just keeps flying under the radar. He's a shadow of the player he was 2 years ago.

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[Markwebbos]

the style of footy that the AFL has at the moment probably lends itself to tackling machines like Warner

Will be interesting - but I suspect we see him tagging and learning as per most introductions to Snr footy

welcome Mad Dog Warner

YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=YeS33pmT7RA)

I’m calling him “Hanging Chad” hope he’ll be hanging off Martin all game Sunday

[Melbourne_Blood]

Not sure if Sportsbet knows something we don’t but Lewy Taylor is pretty short odds in the ‘anytime goal scorer’ market.... interesting considering he’s not named in the team !


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[aardvark]

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Crashed into the mountainside more likely....

[caj23]

Hayward just keeps flying under the radar. He's a shadow of the player he was 2 years ago.

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An absolute blight on Longmire, love Will but doesn’t deserve to be anywhere near the seniors this week

[Captain]

I’m calling him “Hanging Chad” hope he’ll be hanging off Martin all game Sunday

I’m not keen for a first game player to be on Dusty. He would be destroyed!!

George is the man for Dusty.

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An absolute blight on Longmire, love Will but doesn’t deserve to be anywhere near the seniors this week

I think they are giving him a few games off half back to see how he goes. Went ok there against the Dogs so worth another shot.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

An absolute blight on Longmire, love Will but doesn’t deserve to be anywhere near the seniors this week

I have no idea whether there was ever any truth to the "Coaches pet" tag Hayward has been lumbered with.
When I first heard it, I assumed it was a one off piece of locker room banter (it sounds like something out of a primary school playground).

But whether or not it had any substance in the first place, the sheer number of times it's been repeated has turned it into a genuine meme.

[Matty10]

Mcinerney a little stiff, certainly shown a bit so far this year.


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We certainly missed his energy and effort today.

[MattW]

You're not the only one, MattW, who has singled out O'Riordan for demotion, but I don't see a compelling reason for dropping him. He is down from last year, especially the attacking part of his game. I feel that he's been instructed to focus on his defence first and rebuild his confidence after last year's injury. He was making very good progress last year before he got injured. I don't see why he can't continue on that course. I think he's heading to be be our lock down small defender. It will take time to learn to control some of the most talented players in the comp. I don't envy a player in that role.

I also would love to see Stoddart get a game, but rather replacing Mills so that Mills can finally play midfield.

Just wanted to acknowledge you were right and I was wrong about O'Riordan. He played a good game yesterday and we can't afford to discard guys who show his endeavour without giving him a fair chance to develop and without there being a better option to replace him.

[dejavoodoo44]

Just wanted to acknowledge you were right and I was wrong about O'Riordan. He played a good game yesterday and we can't afford to discard guys who show his endeavour without giving him a fair chance to develop and without there being a better option to replace him.
Yes, a couple of times yesterday, I applauded the efforts of O'Riordan, in brief passages of play, were he probably wouldn't have got a stat. Both times were on the wing, and each time he harassed a Richmond player into losing possession, then ran through a shepherd to force the next opponent over the boundary. Both times shutting down potential danger.

[Auntie.Gerald]

'Pretty bad' injuries hit star Swans, Dimma laments 'farcical' footy (https://www.afl.com.au/news/464880/-pretty-bad-injuries-hit-star-swans-dimma-laments-farcical-footy)

"They had no chance of scoring" dimma re the swans

only scored from two 50m free's was his response