Numbers Game

[dawson]

I have been looking at some of the equivalent websites for the other clubs and being a student of the game, one of the features I have particularly liked is where they list every player ever to have worn a particular guernsey number for that club and then a vote to decide who is the best player ever to have worn that number at the club.

Does anyone here have the knowledge about South Melbourne/Sydney to do such a thing.

[Reggi]

Give it a go pick a number

[dawson]

Well, I think you would start your way at 1 and work your way up......

[Reggi]

Stafford, Roos, Jamie Lawson, Ironmonger?

[Reggi]

No 2

Davis, Schwass, Arnott, Dean McRae, Dermott Brereton, Diesel

[Reggi]

No 3

McVeigh, Daffy, Lewis, Healy

[Reggi]

No 4 Mathews, Lockett, Mcrae, Neagle

[Reggi]

No 5

O'Keefe, O'Brien' Jayson Daniels, John Hutton, Ian Roberts, John Rantall

Great No:D :D

[Reggi]

No 6

Bolton, Dunkley, Silvio Foschini

[Reggi]

No 7

Willoughby, Seymour, Carroll

[Reggi]

No 8

Cresswell, Simon Minton-Connell, Craig Holden? Greg Smith

[Reggi]

No 9

Fixter, R Ahmat, S Grant, Michael Werner, Wayne Henwood

[Reggi]

No 10

Williams, Filandia.....Barry Mitchell...Colin Hounsell?

[Reggi]

No 11

Maxfield, Kappler, Mark Browning

[Reggi]

No 12

Fosdike, Kevin Dyson, Ed Considine, B Doolan??

Is this Stevie Wright????

[Reggi]

No 13

Schneider, McPherson, Neil Brunton, Rod Carter

[Reggi]

Kelly, Graham Dempster? Some tall guy in the 80s?? B Skilton

[Reggi]

No 15

Stafford, Doyle, David Strooper, Bernie Evans!!!!

[Reggi]

No 16


Scott Stevens, David Bolton

[Reggi]

No 17

Kennelly Mooney

[Reggi]

No 18

James, Nettlebeck

[Reggi]

No 19

O'Loughlin

[Reggi]

The dreaded 20

Ablett and John Stevens for starters

GT

[Reggi]

No 21

Leo Barry, Tony Morwood

[Reggi]

22

Saddington, Gavin Rose, Mark Kellett?? or am I think Mark Eustice??

[Reggi]

NO 23

Nicks, J Crawford, Glenn Coleman

[Reggi]

24

J Bolton, D Kickett

[Reggi]

No 25

A Schauble, B Round, Scott Russell

[Reggi]

26

D Myles, S Feast, Rouvray?

This jumper should be retired IMO, clearly does not work unless someone can correct me

[Reggi]

27

Ball, Chapman:( Bernard Toohey Sanford Wheeler

[Reggi]

28

Crouch, Early Cresswell

[Reggi]

29 Will Sangaster, Neil Cordy, M Powell

[Reggi]

30

David Rhys Jones, Mark Bayes, Heath James

[Reggi]

31

Stefan Carey

[Reggi]

32

McPherson, S Direen (also wore a lower number)

[Reggi]

34

Luff, Paul Hawke, Paul Morwood

[Reggi]

33

Terry Thripe?? Warfe, Tony Malakelis!!!, Lambert??

[Reggi]

35

David Murphy

[Reggi]

Schnieder B Mathews

[Reggi]

37

Goodes

[Reggi]

38

P Licuria

[Reggi]

39

Adam Heuskes, Warwick Capper

[Barry Schneider]

You could also start with the team of the century and work your way down.
B: John Rantall, John Heriot, Vic Belcher

H/B: Bill Faul, Ron Clegg, Dennis Carroll

C: David Murphy, Greg Williams, Herb Matthews

H/F: Tony Morwood, Laurie Nash, Gerard Healy

F: Bob Pratt, Tony Lockett, Paul Kelly (VC)

Foll: Barry Round, Peter Bedford, Bob Skilton (Capt)

Inter: Bill Williams, Stevie Wright, Daryn Cresswell, Fred Goldsmith, Mark Bayes, Harry Clarke, Mark Tandy

Coach: Jack Bissett

[Nico]

Originally posted by Reggi
Kelly, Graham Dempster? Some tall guy in the 80s?? B Skilton

Tall guy was Stephen Allender from Port.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Reggi
No 19

O'Loughlin

Jimmy Prentice in early 70's.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Reggi
The dreaded 20

Ablett and John Stevens for starters

GT
Graeme Teasdale and John Sudholz.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Reggi
26

D Myles, S Feast, Rouvray?

This jumper should be retired IMO, clearly does not work unless someone can correct me

Mr. Overrated - Steve Wright.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Reggi
27

Ball, Chapman:( Bernard Toohey Sanford Wheeler


Max James father of Heath.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Reggi
29 Will Sangaster, Neil Cordy, M Powell

David McLeish

[Rob-bloods]

Originally posted by Nico
Mr. Overrated - Steve Wright.

Bit harsh, IMO an excellent goer, incidentally Hafey mentions him amongst his favourites at the Swans in front of some much more vaunted players!

[Nico]

Originally posted by Reggi
No 7

Willoughby, Seymour, Carroll

The tough, Gary Brice, an all time favourite of mine.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Reggi
33

Terry Thripe?? Warfe, Tony Malakelis!!!, Lambert??

Max Kruse.

[Rob-bloods]

It would be good to get this complete, what nos did Goldsmith and Cleggy wear?

Great to see the 'Moose' mentioned again, and Sanford Wheeler did he have the first 'dreadies' in the comp? And a great asset to the club, energetic defender.........and his band played at Club functions!

This should be a project for someone, update the numbers game, one of those million plus posters, who obviously have the time.......

[Nico]

Originally posted by Rob-bloods
Bit harsh, IMO an excellent goer, incidentally Hafey mentions him amongst his favourites at the Swans in front of some much more vaunted players!

Opinion only, but was a very frustrating footballer who kicked poorly and rarely performed against the top teams. Let us down far too many times for mine, an opinion shared by the boys just to the right of the scoreboard at the Lake Oval, and just to the left of the small pie stand.

[Gunn]

Originally posted by Rob-bloods
It would be good to get this complete, what nos did Goldsmith and Cleggy wear?

Great to see the 'Moose' mentioned again, and Sanford Wheeler did he have the first 'dreadies' in the comp? And a great asset to the club, energetic defender.........and his band played at Club functions!

This should be a project for someone, update the numbers game, one of those million plus posters, who obviously have the time.......

Fred Goldsmith wore number 2 and Ron Clegg wore number 23

[Rob-bloods]

Originally posted by Nico
Opinion only, but was a very frustrating footballer who kicked poorly and rarely performed against the top teams. Let us down far too many times for mine, an opinion shared by the boys just to the right of the scoreboard at the Lake Oval, and just to the left of the small pie stand.

Up in Sydney he did the business, hard at it and held his own when Dr Geoff bought the Mercenary squad, we must agree to disagree.

[Benevolent Ert]

Direen was 33, and later 18
pretty sure Ben Doolan wore 4 at some stage
I think Graham Dempster wore 13
Don't forget Fitzy for 18
Rouvray was 45
Kent Butcher had 20 in 1996
Mark Orchard wore 24 in the late 90's
Bernard Toohey was 15
Garlick wore 35 early and later 29
Matty Nicks wore 36 in his first year
Micky O started in 38
Clinton King wore 37 and then 25
Ryan O'Keefe started in 39 and Ben Fixter 40
Kennelly's first year was in 41
Wade Chapman and Simon Arnott both started off in 42
McPherson wore 48 in his first year
Plugger finished up in 46!
Rocca wore 16
Troy Gray was 25
Matthew Ah Mat wore 29 in the early 90's
Brett Allison was 15
Scotty Russell's second and final year was in 29
Andrew Bomford was 44 in his first stint and 17 in his second
Ryan O'Connor was 16
Peter Caven was 26

Tho I doubt any of these will win their numbers!

[BAM_BAM]

besides the voting for the best player to have worn the number. I'd just love to know the history of the number. Perhaps this is something we can obtain from the club itself and record it on here as we are embracing our history more and more these days.

[Old Royboy]

Can any-one get into the rooms. The history of each number should be on the lockers.

[NMWBloods]

33

Terry Thripe??

Thripp.


I hought Stevie Wright was a fine player for the club - kicked 8 against West Coast and followed with 5 against Essendon in 1988 IIRC, plus 2 B&Fs.

Big fan of Brice too.

Other numbers I can think of:

11 - Peter Bedford

23 - Colin Hounsel, Justin Crawford

[silent lurker]

Bob Pratt 23 & 10
Ricky Quade 16
Lindsay White 7
Michael Byrne 14
Richard Osborne 44
Troy Cook 41
Leon Higgins 47
Mark Kinnear 39
Greg Stafford 45, 59?
Daryn Cresswell 58?

[Gunn]

Originally posted by silent lurker
Bob Pratt 23 & 10
Ricky Quade 16
Lindsay White 7
Michael Byrne 14
Richard Osborne 44
Troy Cook 41
Leon Higgins 47
Mark Kinnear 39
Greg Stafford 45, 59?
Daryn Cresswell 58?

When did Bob Pratt wear 23?

[silent lurker]

Originally posted by Gunn
When did Bob Pratt wear 23?

According to AFL2004, he wore 23 in 1933 before switching to 10 in 1934.

[Cher]

Originally posted by Reggi
No 7

Willoughby, Seymour, Carroll
NO 7 - Gary Brice

[Cher]

Originally posted by Reggi
Kelly, Graham Dempster? Some tall guy in the 80s?? B Skilton
14 - Stephen Allender

[Cher]

Originally posted by Reggi
No 19

O'Loughlin
19 - Anthony Daniher ?

[Steve]

Originally posted by Reggi
26

This jumper should be retired IMO, clearly does not work unless someone can correct me 94/95 - P.Caven
96/97 - D.Myles
98 - A.Coghlan
99/01 - S.Feast
02 - L.Brockman
03/04 - S.Dempster

And that was (in the main) in a period when we weren't ****.

I guess they were all talls - I'm hoping that's why Dempster got the number and not other reasons (I'm scratching).

[SWANSBEST]

Silent Lurker


You mentioned LINDSAY WHITE wearing no 7 . Do you or any one else know anything about him? Did he cross over to Geelong? Many many many years ago in Canberra a Lindsay White played here for the local Magpies and was a bit of a celebrity . I remember seeing him play when he was over the hill..

[Nico]

Originally posted by SWANSBEST
Silent Lurker


You mentioned LINDSAY WHITE wearing no 7 . Do you or any one else know anything about him? Did he cross over to Geelong? Many many many years ago in Canberra a Lindsay White played here for the local Magpies and was a bit of a celebrity . I remember seeing him play when he was over the hill..

The only one I knew at Sydney who did a bit of crossing over was Adam Hueskes.

[Nico]

No.15

Des Bethke. Does anyone remember Des?

[SWANSBEST]

Nico


Lindsay White was a long time before the Adam Hueskes cross over type.

[Plugger46]

Paul Bryce wore No 21
Richard Osbourne-44
Andrew McGovern- 16
Max Papley-11
Peter Bedford-11
Darren Holmes-31
Richard Ambrose-27
Scott Watters- 10
Scott Direen-18, 33, 43
Ben Wilson - 32?
Scott-32?? (Played one game in about '95 I think)
Robert Hay - 2, 12
Hoffman-26
Darren Gaspar -40
Lockett - 4, 46
Bartholemous -36??
Corcoran- 18??

[Nico]

Originally posted by SWANSBEST
Nico


Lindsay White was a long time before the Adam Hueskes cross over type.

They were around. They just didn't come out to play.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Plugger46
Paul Bryce wore No 21
Richard Osbourne-44
Andrew McGovern- 16
Max Papley-11
Peter Bedford-11
Darren Holmes-31
Richard Ambrose-27
Scott Watters- 10
Scott Direen-18, 33, 43
Ben Wilson - 32?
Scott-32?? (Played one game in about '95 I think)
Robert Hay - 2, 12
Hoffman-26
Darren Gaspar -40
Lockett - 4, 46
Bartholemous -36??
Corcoran- 18??

Okay smartie, what number did Duncan McGregor and Bobby Bollard wear. And what about Quirk in the 80's.

I must say though Bartholemous and Corkers are good gets.

What about Begovich?

[stellation]

Originally posted by Reggi

Simon Minton-Connell

One of my favourites :)

[Nico]

Stellation, you are easily pleased.

[stellation]

Originally posted by Nico
Stellation, you are easily pleased.

I know, I know... but he was one of my favourites!

And he wasn't that bad! He kicked 68 goals his last year with us.

[Reggi]

Originally posted by Steve
94/95 - P.Caven
96/97 - D.Myles
98 - A.Coghlan
99/01 - S.Feast
02 - L.Brockman
03/04 - S.Dempster

And that was (in the main) in a period when we weren't ****.

I guess they were all talls - I'm hoping that's why Dempster got the number and not other reasons (I'm scratching).

Give Dempster a new number and retire it, that one is cursed.

Funny after a few years some of the numbers get mixed up (talking about myself here)

[Reggi]

Paul Kelly started in some really high number like 46.


Can someone please give me a one page summary of this thread by lunchtime?

[Charlie]

Off the top of my head, Minton-Connell kicked over 50 goals in every year he played with us. Granted, he would have got the lion's share of supply, but in a crap team, it's not a bad effort.

[Reggi]

Originally posted by Nico
Okay smartie, what number did Duncan McGregor and Bobby Bollard wear. And what about Quirk in the 80's.

I must say though Bartholemous and Corkers are good gets.

What about Begovich?

The ones we should know are Brett Scott's, I can remmber Quirk as a rover but who knows his number

Paul Starbuck, Matthew Lloyd (good fella), Jamie Duursma, Lockwood, Jason Love, Trevor Mustey......

[stellation]

he had a few games where he kicked a bag

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/S/Simon_Minton-Connell.html

[Reggi]

Originally posted by Charlie
Off the top of my head, Minton-Connell kicked over 50 goals in every year he played with us. Granted, he would have got the lion's share of supply, but in a crap team, it's not a bad effort.

Except 93 Charlie, he was injured a large part of that year

[Plugger46]

Originally posted by Nico
Okay smartie, what number did Duncan McGregor and Bobby Bollard wear. And what about Quirk in the 80's.

I must say though Bartholemous and Corkers are good gets.

What about Begovich?

Couldn't think of Quirk.
Begovich I think was 2?
Bobby Bollard - 33
Duncan McGregor - 48
Cazaly -1
Herbie Matthews Jnr - 33
Glenn Coleman - 23
Craig Holden -22
Doug Priest - 9
Filandia - 37, 10
John Herriot - 21
Brad Tunbridge - 2
McGee - 26
Brian McGowan - 3
Ken Colvan - 2
Ian Roberts -5
Frank Johnson - 8
Wayne Ewan - 43
Eric Sarich - 28, 24, 16
Neville Miller - 13
Clem Goonan - 37
Ray Lucev - 8
Bob Kingston - 23

[Nico]

Originally posted by Charlie
Off the top of my head, Minton-Connell kicked over 50 goals in every year he played with us. Granted, he would have got the lion's share of supply, but in a crap team, it's not a bad effort.

Probably a fair point.

[Rob-bloods]

Indeed M-C was a handy full forward in the dark days, remember how awful we were at times (and we grumble about delivery to the forward line now) and I recollect (someone might have clearer info) he kicked a very reasonable percentage of his attempts.

In all the banter on numbers I have not noticed the following yet

Jim Edmund
Steven Taubert
Merv Neagle
Stuart Wigney
Robert Heal
Tim Barling

are we going to have an all up number summary or what?

[Nico]

Terry O'Neill left foot full back?

Keith Baskin was of 60's fame - 4

Reg Gleeson - 27

Kelly's first number - 45.

Healy - 3

John Pitura - 21

Any one got Robby Grima's number.

One goal Wharton was number 20 I believe. Called him one goal because all he kicked was a goal a match whether in the ones or twos.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Reggi
Paul Kelly started in some really high number like 46.


Can someone please give me a one page summary of this thread by lunchtime?

Big ask Reggi. Believe it or not some of us do have lives.

[Nico]

OK P46 try Michael Wright, brother of Steve.

[Cher]

Originally posted by SWANSBEST
Silent Lurker You mentioned LINDSAY WHITE wearing no 7 . Do you or any one else know anything about him? Did he cross over to Geelong? Many many many years ago in Canberra a Lindsay White played here for the local Magpies and was a bit of a celebrity . I remember seeing him play when he was over the hill..

Lindsay White - 1942-43 - 26 games 113 goals. Star full forward who spent two seasons with South when Geelong was in recess during World War II. Topped the VFL goalkicking with 80 goals in 1942
(Jim Main)

[SWANSBEST]

Cher

Thanks for that information.

[Benevolent Ert]

I'm currently putting together a list of who wore what number in what year - at the moment back to 1982 (first year in Sydney) and when I've got that sorted I'll start tackling the South Melbourne days
At present I've got nearly all numbers sorted back to 1994, and starting too fill in gaps beyond that
Any help would be much appreciated
I'd like to get 1994-2004 completely finished ASAP - can anyone help with the following gaps?

#18 in 1998
#28 in 1995
#39 in 2001
#40 in 1995, 2001 and 2002
anyone you can remember with a number over 42 in that period

Thanks

<edit>As soon as I hit the "Submit" button I remembered David McEwan wearing #18 in 1998</edit>

[dawson]

#28 in 1995
#39 in 2001
#40 in 1995, 2001 and 2002
anyone you can remember with a number over 42 in that period

[/B]

28 - no one
39 - scott muller
40 - Emil Parthenides, Ben Fixter, Chris Obst

[stellation]

Originally posted by Rob-bloods
Indeed M-C was a handy full forward in the dark days, remember how awful we were at times (and we grumble about delivery to the forward line now) and I recollect (someone might have clearer info) he kicked a very reasonable percentage of his attempts.


Just going off the info at AFL Tables (http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/S/Simon_Minton-Connell.html) that only covers post 1994 he was at over 60%. I'd love it if someone could find/post his career goals.behinds and games stats.

[Plugger46]

Originally posted by Ert
I'm currently putting together a list of who wore what number in what year - at the moment back to 1982 (first year in Sydney) and when I've got that sorted I'll start tackling the South Melbourne days
At present I've got nearly all numbers sorted back to 1994, and starting too fill in gaps beyond that
Any help would be much appreciated
I'd like to get 1994-2004 completely finished ASAP - can anyone help with the following gaps?

#18 in 1998
#28 in 1995
#39 in 2001
#40 in 1995, 2001 and 2002
anyone you can remember with a number over 42 in that period

Thanks

<edit>As soon as I hit the "Submit" button I remembered David McEwan wearing #18 in 1998</edit>

I think Cressa may have still worn 28 in 1995. Fixter, I think wore 40 in 2002. Ryan O'Keefe possibly 39 in 2001. Chapman wore 42 for a while.

[Gunn]

Has everybody forgotton the great Bill Gunn who wore number 8 with great distinction. A great player and a beautiful kick. Bill was a key position player mainly playing at centre half forward

[Benevolent Ert]

Thanks
Pretty sure Cressa started in 8 in 1995 and Crouchy was drafted at the end of that year

I knew Scott Muller wore 39 for a year but couldn't remember if he was before or after ROK
I remember Parthenides being drafted, but had no idea what number he wore - thanks for Obst too - I could picture him but couldn't for the life of me remember his name

I've got Chappy as #42 in 1994 only

[BAM_BAM]

Pebbles had 39 in 2000. In 2001 he took on his #5

[Benevolent Ert]

ok - my list is complete for numbers 1-42 between 1994 and 2004
What I'm looking for to complete this section is rookie list/supplementary list guys you remember who wore #43 or higher in the years 1995, 1996, 1999, 2000
I already have senior list guys like Paul Rouvray (45 - 1996) and Leon Higgins (47 - 1987-95) and I've managed to dig up some old footy records from 1997-98, so I have all those guys

[silent lurker]

1995
43: Chris O'Dwyer*
44: Andrew Bomford*
45: Mark Armstrong*
46: Steven Priest*
48: Nick Carroll*
49: Damian Pleming*
50: Phil Maunder*

1999
44: Mark Brown#
45: Paul Allison#
47: Brad McMahon#
50: Paul Scoullar*

2000
43: David Le Pavoux#
44: Peter McGrath#
45: Paul Allison#
46: Leigh Brockman#
47: Scott Muller#
48: Brett White#

[dawson]

1996 - Brett Kirk

[Benevolent Ert]

Top work silent lurker!

I can't believe I can't find a footy record from 1996 lying around somewhere - I remember Kirky was on the supp list at the time - what number was he?

If I fill in those last few gaps, I'll have a complete list from 1994-2004

Now I'm starting on 1986-93
Can anyone help with the following names?
Richard Ambrose 1993
Damian Angove 1992
Mark Athorn 1991
Paul Atkins 1992
Tim Barling 1989-90
Adrian Battiston 1988-89
Grant Bartholomaeus 1986-87
Tony Begovich 1993
John Brinkkotter 1988-89
David Brown 1988-90
Justin Clarkson 1991
David Cordner 1988
Graeme Cordy 1987-89
Anthony Daniher 1981-86
Craig Davis 1988
Aldo Dipetta 1993
Jamie Duursma 1985-86
Jim Edmond 1986
Mark Eustice 1988-91
Shane Fell 1990
Paul Hawke 1984-87, 1991
Paul Holdsworth 1989
Nathan Irvin 1993
Gareth John 1990-93
Graham Jones 1986
Mark Kellett 1988-90
Michael Kennedy 1990
Robert Kerr 1990-91
Matthew Lloyd 1987-91
Michael Lockman 1988
Jason Love 1991-92
Darren McAsey 1985-86, 1988-91
Andrew McGovern 1992-93
Allan McKellar 1992
Paul Morwood 1977-82, 1986
Darren Ogier 1989
Brett Page 1990
Glenn Page 1989-91
Michael Parsons 1988-90
Michael Phyland 1987-90
Craig Potter 1984, 1987-90
Peter Quirk 1987
Mark Roberts 1985-86
Matthew Ryan 1990
Brett Scott 1981-89
Dion Scott 1990, 1992
Jim Silvestro 1988
Tony Smith 1986-88
Brian Stanislaus 1991
Paul Starbuck 1990
Gary Stevens 1992-93
Robert Teal 1989-90
Andrew Thomson 1993
Alan Thorpe 1992
Terry Thripp 1983-84, 1987-92
Brad Tunbridge 1990-93
Jim West 1992
Mark Whitzell 1981-86
Stuart Wigney 1992
David Willis 1988-91
David Wittey 1990

[Cher]

Originally posted by Ert
Top work silent lurker!

I can't believe I can't find a footy record from 1996 lying around somewhere - I remember Kirky was on the supp list at the time - what number was he?



I have most of the 96 records - Brett Kirk No 43

[Benevolent Ert]

Thanks Cher!
Did we have a #46 or higher that year?

[gloveski]

Shane Fell ......that brings back memories had a few great games for us from memory

[NMWBloods]

A few other numbers of long-lost players that I don't think have been mentioned (with confidence):

1- John Ironmonger
9 - David Ackerley
16 - Gary Frangalis
19 - Anthony Daniher
20 - Jamie Duursma
22 - Craig Holden

[Cher]

Originally posted by Ert

Did we have a #46 or higher that year?
* supplementary list players
46 Justin Fuller*
47 Michael Hewitt*
49 Matthew Fowler*
53 Tom Gorham*
54 Adam Coles*

[Nico]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
A few other numbers of long-lost players that I don't think have been mentioned (with confidence):

1- John Ironmonger
9 - David Ackerley
16 - Gary Frangalis
19 - Anthony Daniher
20 - Jamie Duursma
22 - Craig Holden

Good old Franger eh, forgot all about him. Great fun in the outer with that one. You could just about mould a whole match of banter around that one.

Ert, if you go back through this thread you will up a few of those you are looking for.

P46's old man is pretty good on numbers. I will give him a call to get him on the trail.

[silent lurker]

8- Tony Smith

[NMWBloods]

Wasn't it Greg Smith?

[silent lurker]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Wasn't it Greg Smith?

Yeah, it must have been Greg Smith. Ackerley was playing in the match I saw highlights of on The Winners With Flares tonight and he played with Greg and not Tony.

[Benevolent Ert]

Greg Smith played 96 games from 1980-84
Tony Smith played 17 games from 1986-88

Which one was it?

<edit>Duh, silly me - I already have Greg Smith for #8 - so I've answered my own question!</edit>

Also, I've been through the thread but some of the numbers have question marks next to them, and some overlap with each other (eg. I have Brad Tunbridge and Tony Begovich both down for #2 in the same year)

[Plugger46]

M.Wright -8
Barling-12
Dhurrsma-20
Bartholomaeus-36
Edmond-1?
G.Cordy-28
A.Daniher-19
McGovern-16
P.Morwood-32
Tunbridge-2?
M.Lloyd -18
Gareth John-19
M.Kellett-36
B.Scott-6
T.Thripp-12
M.Eustice-34?
M.Parsons-19
R.Ambrose- 17 or 27?

[Triple B]

T.Thripp-12

I'm sure Thripp wore 33. Could be wrong.

From memory Paul Hawke wore 34. Could play a bit as well, just quietly.

Watch those Winners with Flares episodes, you're sure to get some from those.

[Rob-bloods]

Ackerley, a great small defender, very classy and went on to Norths. He even won a b & f or came close I think/

[ScottH]

14 - Jack P Howell
14 - Bill Faul
14 - Reg Edwards

16 - Tommy Hayes
16 - Len Mortimer
16 - Austin Robertson Snr


These are off the lockers. I have a Kelly screen saver with a shot of him sitting in front of his locker, and you can see from 13 to 16.

These are the names that I haven't noticed in here yet.

[Cher]

Originally posted by BBB
I'm sure Thripp wore 33. Could be wrong.

From memory Paul Hawke wore 34. Could play a bit as well, just quietly.

Watch those Winners with Flares episodes, you're sure to get some from those.
Terry Thripp wore 12 early in his career then was delisted, and Daryn McAkesy (sp?) took no 12. When Terry was put back on the list again he took no 33.

[silent lurker]

Originally posted by Cher
Terry Thripp wore 12 early in his career then was delisted, and Daryn McAkesy (sp?) took no 12. When Terry was put back on the list again he took no 33.

The match I saw highlights of on The Winners With Flares last night had Craig Braddy wearing 12.

[Norris Lurker]

If I fill in those last few gaps, I'll have a complete list from 1994-2004

Now I'm starting on 1986-93

Great trivia quiz Ert. I've lost all memory of a lot of them, but these are the ones I remember that no-one else has already mentioned.

Craig Davis 1988 - #60 (after retirement he's worked tirelessly in local footy)
Jim Edmond 1986 - #8 (was Footscray captain before coming up on Edelsten money, lasted a year then became a foundation Brisbane Bear)
Shane Fell 1990 - #23
Paul Hawke 1984-87, 1991 - He wore #17 on his first stint, not sure about his return year in 1991.
Peter Quirk 1987 - #20 (Sydney local who later did the Sydney-Melbourne ultra-marathon)
Brett Scott 1981-89 - #6 (coached for 2 disastrous weeks in 1993 after Buckenara got the boot before Barassi was appointed)
Jim Silvestro 1988 - #47 (little guy who wore a helmet)
Brad Tunbridge 1990-93 - #48 for the first 3 years, then wore #2 - big ruckman
Jim West 1992 - #20 (played every game that year, then never played again)

[silent lurker]

Originally posted by Norris Lurker

Paul Hawke 1984-87, 1991 - He wore #17 on his first stint, not sure about his return year in 1991.


He definitely wore #34 in his first stint. Maybe he wore 17 in his second stint (did Luffy wear 34 that year?)

[Triple B]

Jamie Lawson had #1 when he broke the leg which finished him.

Before that #37 rings a bell.

[silent lurker]

I don't know which players (if any) wore 32, 36, 38, 41, 43, 46 or any numbers 49 and above in 1994.

[Norris Lurker]

Originally posted by silent lurker
He definitely wore #34 in his first stint. Maybe he wore 17 in his second stint (did Luffy wear 34 that year?) Luffy made his debut in 1990 - I don't ever remember him wearing any other number than 34.

[Barry Schneider]

Has anyone mentioned Hilton Kotzur(spelling)?I attended a clinic many years ago and this tall blonde figure walked towards us and all the kids were screaming Rhys Jones,Rhys Jones.It was Hilton.There were a few disappointed kiddies that day.Poor bloke.

[silent lurker]

Originally posted by Barry Schneider
Has anyone mentioned Hilton Kotzur(spelling)?I attended a clinic many years ago and this tall blonde figure walked towards us and all the kids were screaming Rhys Jones,Rhys Jones.It was Hilton.There were a few disappointed kiddies that day.Poor bloke.

Hilton Kotzur: 1 match in 1982
I wouldn't have a clue what his number was though.

[Benevolent Ert]

Originally posted by silent lurker
I don't know which players (if any) wore 32, 36, 38, 41, 43, 46 or any numbers 49 and above in 1994.

I've got the entire 94 list here and the players are as follows:
32 Scott Robinson
36 Andrew Donnelly
38 Andrew Bomford
41 Ashley Thompson
43 Matthew Aston
46 Daryl Griffen
49 Nobody
50 Dion Myles

Slowly filling in the gaps - but the problem I have now is overlap - ie 2 players for the one number in the same year - can someone help me out by suggesting alternative numbers for the following clashes:

#5 John Hutton/Jayson Daniels 1993
#18 Matthew Lloyd/Craig Nettlebeck 1990-91
#33 Scott Direen/Tony Malakellis 1993
#47 Leon Higgins/Jim Silvestro 1988

also Paul Hawke must've worn #17 in 1991 as the great man Luffy had 34 at that stage - I've put down Hawke as #34 in his first stint

Also clarifying which years Thripp wore #12 and #33 would be a huge help

The jigsaw puzzle is taking shape!

[Benevolent Ert]

Actually - if Luffy's around and can remember some of his more obscure teammates numbers from his early years it would be a big help!

"The Dark Ages" 1990-93 is the era I'm concentrating on at the moment - I'll understand if most of you have blocked it from your memory :D

[tez]

Think we had a bloke called Farrell in #12 in the early 90's.
Got homesick and went to Hawthorn.

Ben Doolan did play in 4 and then went to Essendon if I
remember rightly.

[Bron]

This should be turned into an article on the main site rather than on the forum. There's a job for someone!

Re the question to Luffy, maybe send him a PM or post a specific thread callling his attention. Sometimes the threads get ignored (not just by Luffy), I've not come into this thread until tonight because it looked too long!

[Triple B]

#4 is correct for Doolan, after him was Dean McRae until plugger arrived.

Before Doolan, Merv Neagle wore 4 for us, but I dare say there were player/s between Neagle and Doolan.

Michael Werner #9. Has he been mentioned. If not I'm sorry Reggi and MtS, now doubt trying to forget. :D

[Benevolent Ert]

Here's the full list I have so far
As I said, I'm trying to get the Sydney years completed first - then I'll start tackling the South days

1 Barry Hall Greg Stafford Paul Roos Jamie Lawson John Ironmonger
2 Nick Davis Wayne Schwass Simon Arnott Dean McRae Dermott Brereton Brad Tunbridge Greg Williams
3 Jarrad McVeigh Nick Daffy Dale Lewis Gerard Healy
4 Ben Mathews Tony Lockett Dean McRae Ben Doolan Merv Neagle
5 Ryan O'Keefe Craig O'Brien Jayson Daniels John Hutton Ian Roberts
6 Craig Bolton Andrew Dunkley Brett Scott
7 Josh Willoughby Brad Seymour Dennis Carroll
8 Daryn Cresswell Simon Minton-Connell Jim Edmond Greg Smith Michael Wright
9 Ben Fixter Robert AhMat Shannon Grant Michael Werner Wayne Henwood David Ackerly
10 Paul Williams Peter Filandia Scott Watters Barry Mitchell
11 Stuart Maxfield Darren Kappler Mark Browning
12 Nic Fosdike Brett O'Farrell Kevin Dyson Ed Considine Tim Barling
13 Adam Schneider Daniel McPherson Neil Brunton Rod Carter
14 Paul Kelly Michael Byrne Stephen Allender
15 Stephen Doyle Brett Allison Stefan Carey Greg Stafford David Strooper Bernard Toohey Bernie Evans
16 Scott Stevens Ryan O'Connor Brent Green Shannon Corcoran Anthony Rocca Gavin McMahon Andrew McGovern David Bolton
17 Tadhg Kennelly Steven Tingay Andrew Bomford Jason Mooney Paul Hawke
18 Heath James Ryan Fitzgerald David McEwan Scott Direen Craig Nettlebeck Matthew Lloyd Wayne Carroll
19 Michael O'Loughlin Darren Holmes Gareth John Anthony Daniher
20 Luke Ablett John Stevens Kent Butcher Darren Gaspar Jim West Peter Quirk Jamie Duursma
21 Leo Barry Mark Hepburn Paul Bryce Tony Morwood
22 Jason Saddington Gavin Rose Craig Holden
23 Matthew Nicks Justin Crawford Robert Neill Shane Fell Glen Coleman Colin Hounsell
24 Jude Bolton Mark Orchard Derek Kickett
25 Andrew Schauble Scott Russell Simon Hawking Clinton King Troy Gray Barry Round
26 Sean Dempster Leigh Brockman Simon Feast Adam Coughlan Dion Myles Peter Caven Stephen Wright
27 Jason Ball Wade Chapman Sanford Wheeler
28 Jared Crouch Daryn Cresswell Graeme Cordy
29 Mark Powell Luke Ablett Scott Russell Will Sangster Simon Garlick Matthew AhMat Neil Cordy
30 Lewis Roberts-Thomson Heath James Mark Bayes David Rhys-Jones
31 Brett Kirk Stefan Carey Damian Lang Darren Holmes Michael Phyland
32 Amon Buchanan Stephen Doyle Jason McPherson Ben Wilson Daniel McPherson Scott Robinson Paul Morwood Paul Morwood
33 Rowan Warfe Ben Hollands Dion Myles Scott Direen Tony Malakellis Terry Thripp
34 Daniel Hunt Troy Luff
35 Jarrad Sundqvist Scott Stevens Brett Rose Stuart Mangin Simon Garlick David Murphy
36 Tim Schmidt Adam Schneider Leigh Brockman# Ben Mathews Matthew Nicks Andrew Donnelly Mark Kellett Grant Bartholomaeus
37 Adam Goodes David McEwan Clinton King Tim Scott Peter Filandia
38 Josh Thewlis Ricky Mott Brett White# Dwayne Simpson Paul Licuria Michael O'Loughlin Andrew Bomford
39 Scott McGlone# Scott Muller# Ryan O'Keefe Mark Kinnear Adam Heuskes Warwick Capper Warwick Capper
40 Nick Malceski Chris Obst# Ben Fixter Fred Campbell Brett O'Farrell Leigh Marshall Emil Parthenides Shayne Smith
41 Andrew Ericksen Ryan Crawford Ricky O'Loughlin# Tadhg Kennelly Troy Cook Ben Mathews Stefan Carey Ashley Thompson
42 Paul Bevan Gerard Bennett Simon Arnott Will Sangster Simon Arnott Wade Chapman
43 James Meiklejohn Tom Hill# Brent Piltz David Le Pavoux# Shane-Lee Frederiksen# Adam Ryder# Brett Kirk* Chris O'Dwyer* Matthew Aston Scott Direen
44 Matthew Davis Declan O'Mahoney# Michael Swan# Peter McGrath# Mark Brown# Leigh Marshall# Andrew Bomford* Glenn Gorman Richard Osbourne
45 Aaron Rogers Luke Jarjoura# Paul Allison# Mark Livy# Steven Mahar# Paul Rouvray Mark Armstrong* Stefan Carey Greg Stafford Paul Kelly
46 Luke Taylor# Tony Lockett Leigh Brockman# Nathan Tresize# Justin Fuller* Steven Priest* Daryl Griffen
47 Nick Potter# Scott Muller# Brad McMahon# David Harrison# Michael Hewitt* Leon Higgins
48 Brett White# James Byrne# Nick Carroll* Daniel McPherson Brad Tunbridge
49 Barnaby Howarth* Matthew Fowler* Damian Pleming*
50 Paul Scoullar* Jason McPherson# Phil Maunder* Dion Myles
51
52
53 Tom Gorham*
54 Adam Coles*
60 Craig Davis

[Nico]

Add Stephen Taubert in number 24 in 1982/3. Saw it on Fox today.

[Nico]

What about John Roberts in no.10.

[Bron]

Come to the Alex hotel today and maybe after the game you can get a quiet moment with Harry Mcasey ... he was there in the 80s. He also keeps in with the past players group and should be able to help out.

[NMWBloods]

You missed Frangalis at #16 and Hawke at #34.

[silent lurker]

Originally posted by Ert
Also clarifying which years Thripp wore #12 and #33 would be a huge help


According to my list Craig Braddy wore 12 during Thripp's first stint, and Tim Barling wore 12 during his second stint.

[silent lurker]

1985:
38 Mark Russell
41 Robert Prosser

[tez]

1982 - Francis Jackson # 31. Had a bushy black beard. Very honest, never say die
half back flanker

[Plugger46]

Ert,

Scott Direen definitely wore No. 43 in 1993, as that's what he was wearing in our only win of the year. He wore 33 the following year I think. Then 18 for the remaining years he was at the club.

Someone mentioned O'Farrell, he played for us in about '98 wearing No. 12, he then went to Hawthorn.

[silent lurker]

Denis Pagan 31

[Benevolent Ert]

Originally posted by silent lurker
According to my list Craig Braddy wore 12 during Thripp's first stint, and Tim Barling wore 12 during his second stint.

This is exactly the problem I've come across

Also - someone mentioned #27 for Richard Ambrose - if so what number did Sanford "Matty" Wheeler wear that year? (1993)

I've sorted out the Scott Direen one - thanks guys

I've got some of the easier numbers sorted right back to the early 80's
Number 7 is the easiest - thanks to Carroll and Seymour - I've got it filled all the way back to 1981
#15 and #23 right back to 1978
#16 back to 1983
#10 - I'm just missing 1983 to take it all the way back to 1980
#13 and #30 I've got every year back to '80
#3 and #4 I've gotten back to 1986
#18 I just need to sort out the Matthew Lloyd/Craig Nettlebeck clash of 1990/91 to go all the way back to 1979
#26 I'm missing 1993 but have every other year back to 1979
#29 and #31 go back to 1987

I have gaps all over the place in the other numbers

[Benevolent Ert]

Originally posted by Bron
Come to the Alex hotel today and maybe after the game you can get a quiet moment with Harry Mcasey ... he was there in the 80s. He also keeps in with the past players group and should be able to help out.

I would've loved to - but being from Victoria I was at the after match in Melbourne!
I might drop Tony Morwood a line, I'm sure he would know a few!

[Benevolent Ert]

Just thought I'd give it a bump after two pages of threads on how bad yesterdays umpiring was

[Nico]

Ert

Was John Roberts no.10 in 1983.

[Nico]

Sorry Encyclo of footballers says Roberts finished in 1982.

[Nico]

Craig Braddy 1982 -85 and from what I saw on the TV last Friday he wore no.12.

[Benevolent Ert]

yeah, I've got Braddy and Roberts in 12 and 10 respectively
Looking for who wore 10 between Roberts and Barry Mitchell

[Benevolent Ert]

Still hunting folks!!!!
Thought I'd bump it back to the top again!

[silent lurker]

Some numbers from 1978:

1: John Murphy
6: Colin Hounsell
14: David Young
18: Robert Dean
28: Michael Smith
35: Peter Morrison
43: Mark Browning

[Rob-bloods]

What about Jim Edmund, low number 1986 and Graham Cordy?

[Rob-bloods]

Originally posted by Rob-bloods
What about Jim Edmund, low number 1986 and Graham Cordy?

Apologies they're in

[Nico]

Originally posted by tez
1982 - Francis Jackson # 31. Had a bushy black beard. Very honest, never say die
half back flanker

Very ordinary footballer is a kind description of a talentless player riddled with mistakes.

[Foreign Legion]

Originally posted by Ert
This is exactly the problem I've come across

Also - someone mentioned #27 for Richard Ambrose - if so what number did Sanford "Matty" Wheeler wear that year? (1993)

I've sorted out the Scott Direen one - thanks guys

I've got some of the easier numbers sorted right back to the early 80's
Number 7 is the easiest - thanks to Carroll and Seymour - I've got it filled all the way back to 1981
#15 and #23 right back to 1978
#16 back to 1983
#10 - I'm just missing 1983 to take it all the way back to 1980
#13 and #30 I've got every year back to '80
#3 and #4 I've gotten back to 1986
#18 I just need to sort out the Matthew Lloyd/Craig Nettlebeck clash of 1990/91 to go all the way back to 1979
#26 I'm missing 1993 but have every other year back to 1979
#29 and #31 go back to 1987

I have gaps all over the place in the other numbers

Hi Ert,

some I think I remember are:
16 was Ricky Quade
10 was Brian Woodman - mid to late 70's
29 was that David Mcleish? in the 70's
31 was Francis Jackson

Any other numbers you are still after?

[Benevolent Ert]

As many as you can...... keep 'em all coming

Great work guys

I posted an entire list of the ones I have so far a couple of pages back - as I said, I'm mainly concentrating on the Sydney years for starters, but South Melbourne numbers are much appreciated as I'm working my way back 10 years at a time

At the moment my focus is the 10 years 1983-93

[Benevolent Ert]

BUMP

Now that May is over I have a little time on my hands

Keep em coming!

[Doctor J.]

Originally posted by Ert
BUMP

Now that May is over I have a little time on my hands

Keep em coming!

Been working on a few.
Will post them in a day or so.

[Benevolent Ert]

bout time I bumped this again

[Triple B]

Gee, you should have got a shietload of numbers from the 80's marathon on the weekend.

[Doctor J.]

Originally posted by Ert
bout time I bumped this again

Ok here goes. Can't be bothered reading all posts so some of these you may already have.

1. John Ironmonger, Paul Roos, Len Thompson, John Murphy,(ex-fitzroy) Greg Stafford, Neville Fields, Ray Ball???(father of Luke) Greg Stafford

2. Vic Aanensen, Greg Williams Wayne Schwass.

3 Mick Stilo, Gerrard Healy, Dale Lewis

4 Keith Baskin, Tony Lockett, Merv Neagle, Dean McRae

5 John Rantal,l Ian Roberts, Craig O'Brien

6 Andrew Dunkley, Silvio Foschini, Shannon Grant, Brett Scott.

7. Gary Brice, Dennis Carrol Kevin Goss, Brad Seymour

8. John Scarlett,(father of Matthew) John Murphy (70's) Barry Beecroft, Tony Haenan (father of Toby, Australian swimmer),Greg Smith, Michael Wright, Daryn Creswell, Simon Minton-Connell

9. David Ackerley, Gerrard Neesham (dockers coach), Wayne Henwood

10 John Roberts, Bob Pratt, Wayne Walsh, David Bolton, Brian Woodman, Peter Filandia, Barry Mitchell.

11. Peter Bedford, Mark Browning, Stuart Maxfield, Darren Kappler

12 Norm Goss, Kevin Dyson

13. Graham Dempster (father of Sean) Rod Carter, Greg Miller.(the bloke who pinched Carey from us)

14 Bob Skilton, David Young, Tony Franklin, Stephen Allender, Paul Kelly.

15 Bernie Evans, Stephan Carey??? Greg Stafford (Early)

16. Ricky Quade

17. Russell Cook, Russell Hodges, Jason Mooney, Tadgh Kennelly, Craig Potter.

18. Paul Harrison, Wayne Carroll, Robert Dean.

19. Anthony Daniher, Terry O'neill, Jim Prentice, Graeme Jacobs, Michael O'Loughlin. Terry Daniher???? (not sure on this one)

20. Graeme Teasdale, Ian Thompson, John Sudholz

21. John Pitura, Tony Morwood, Michael Byrne

22. Peter Carter, Peter McCracken, Craig Holden

23. Colin Hounsell, Matthew Nicks

24. John Blair, Derek Kickett, Alan Richardson (father of Matthew), Steve Taubert.

25 Barry Round, Haydn McAuliffe

26. Steve Hoffman, Simon Feast.

27. Reg Gleeson, Wade Chapman, Max James (father of Heath)

29. David McLeish

30. Fred Way Shane Zantuck, David Rhys-Jones

31. Stuart Bennett, Francis Jackson.

32. Robert Doyle (father of Stephen)

33. Greg Lambert

34. Stewart Gull, Paul Hawke, Max Kruse, Troy Luff, Paul Morwood.

35 Peter Morrison, Shane Mckew, David Murphy,

36 Alf Beus

39. Warrick Capper, Adam Heuskes

43. Mark Browning (early)

47. Leon Higgins

[swansrule100]

Originally posted by Rob-bloods
Bit harsh, IMO an excellent goer, incidentally Hafey mentions him amongst his favourites at the Swans in front of some much more vaunted players!

Stevie wright was a champion and went so hard at the ball!!

wheres number 44..richard osborne

[NMWBloods]

Great stuff Dr J - it's like a trip down memory lane. I just watched on Fox Footy some 1978 stuff, and it was great to see our old sloggers out there again, where if we managed to win 10 games in a season it was a great achievement!! :)

[Benevolent Ert]

Magnificent list Doctor - filled in plenty of gaps - but some names have caused me some confusion


Originally posted by Doctor J.

1. Len Thompson, John Murphy,(ex-fitzroy) Neville Fields


Len Thompson 1979
John Murphy (ex-Fitzroy) 1978-79
Neville Fields 1978-81

Did we have three #1's in 1979?


8. John Scarlett,(father of Matthew) John Murphy (70's) Barry Beecroft, Tony Haenan (father of Toby, Australian swimmer),Greg Smith, Michael Wright,

Plenty of overlap here

Greg Smith 1980-84
Michael Wright 1978-80
John Scarlett 1977-78
Barry Beecroft 1973-77
John Murphy (non Fitzroy) 1970-73
Tony Haenan 1966-71

As a general rule of thumb I'm assuming the older player wore the number during the first year or two of the newer players career - though this may not always be the case - if anyone has alternate numbers for any of these guys would be a big help! Another problem with this era is that mid-season trades were common - so I am going to come across instances of 2 players wearing a number in the same year


9. David Ackerley, Gerrard Neesham

Neesham 1982
Ackerly 1976-85


10. David Bolton

I thought he was #16?


13. Graham Dempster (father of Sean), Greg Miller.

Greg Miller 1972-76
Graham Dempster 1972-79

5 years of overlap here!


20. Graeme Teasdale, Ian Thompson

Teasdale 1975-81
Thomson 1973-76


21. Tony Morwood, Michael Byrne

I already have Byrne as #14 for the 2 years he played (1987-88) and surely Tony Morwood would've been wearing 21 in those years

If we can sort out the overlaps in those numbers, we'll have a HUGE chunk of the 70's done thanks to the Doctor

still hunting for numbers from the 1980-93 period (I know most of you have probably blocked large chunks of it from your memory - especially the early 90's)

[*Paul*]

Hi Ert, you might know of my site - AFL Tables? http://stats.rleague.com/afl/afl_index.html

I've just added 1993 stats, which, at the next update (Monday), will include the 93 guernsey numbers. Hopefully they're right, but you never can tell with newspapers.

One strange thing - Aldo Dipetta (2 games)- the Herald Sun claimed his number was 0. And so did the The Age.
Could this really be the case?

[Benevolent Ert]

thanks Paul - your site has been a godsend - one of the main reasons I got 1994-2004 finished so quickly!!!

I doubt Aldo DiPetta wore 0 tho - cant remember what he did wear

[portboy]

jumper numbers Craig Davis wore number jumper numer 60 and John Herriot wore number 21

[Benevolent Ert]

Thought I'd drag this up again to pass the time

The list is getting pretty extesive right back to the early 60's now, but any help to fill in the gaps would be much appreciated!!!

Here's the list so far (not bothering with anyone pre-1960 just yet)



1 Barry Hall Greg Stafford Paul Roos Jamie Lawson John Ironmonger Neville Fields John Murphy (Fitz) Ray Ball
2 Nick Davis Wayne Schwass Simon Arnott Dean McRae Dermott Brereton Brad Tunbridge Greg Williams Vic "Stretch" Aanensen Ken Colvin
3 Jarrad McVeigh Nick Daffy Dale Lewis Gerard Healy Mick Stilo Brian McGowan
4 Ben Mathews Tony Lockett Dean McRae Ben Doolan Merv Neagle Keith Baskin
5 Ryan O'Keefe Craig O'Brien Jayson Daniels Ian Roberts John Rantall John Rantall
6 Craig Bolton Andrew Dunkley Brett Scott Silvio Foschini
7 Josh Willoughby Brad Seymour Dennis Carroll Kevin Goss Gary Brice
8 David Spriggs Daryn Cresswell Simon Minton-Connell Jim Edmond Greg Smith Michael Wright John Scarlett Barry Beecroft John Murphy (SA) Tony Haenan Frank Johnson Billy Gunn
9 Ben Fixter Robert AhMat Shannon Grant Michael Werner Wayne Henwood David Ackerly Doug Priest Ray Lucev
10 Paul Williams Peter Filandia Scott Watters Barry Mitchell John Roberts Brian Woodman Wayne Walsh
11 Stuart Maxfield Darren Kappler Mark Browning Peter Bedford Max Papley
12 Nic Fosdike Brett O'Farrell Kevin Dyson Ed Considine Tim Barling Craig Braddy Norm Goss
13 Adam Schneider Daniel McPherson Neil Brunton Rod Carter Graham Dempster Neville Miller
14 Paul Kelly Michael Byrne Stephen Allender David Young Tony Franklin Bob Skilton
15 Stephen Doyle Brett Allison Stefan Carey Greg Stafford David Strooper Bernard Toohey Bernie Evans Des Bethke
16 Darren Jolly Scott Stevens Ryan O'Connor Brent Green Shannon Corcoran Anthony Rocca Gavin McMahon Andrew McGovern David Bolton Gary Frangalas Ricky Quade
17 Tadhg Kennelly Steven Tingay Andrew Bomford Jason Mooney Paul Hawke Craig Potter Craig Potter Russell Hodges Russell Cook
18 Heath James Ryan Fitzgerald David McEwan Scott Direen Craig Nettlebeck Matthew Lloyd Wayne Carroll Robert Dean Paul Harrison
19 Michael O'Loughlin Darren Holmes Gareth John Tony Smith Anthony Daniher Terry O'Neill Jim Prentice Graeme Jacobs
20 Luke Ablett John Stevens Kent Butcher Darren Gaspar John Hutton Jim West Peter Quirk Jamie Duursma Graham Teasdale Ian Thomson John Sudholz Ken Wharton
21 Leo Barry Mark Hepburn Paul Bryce Tony Morwood John Pitura John Heriot
22 Jason Saddington Gavin Rose Craig Holden Peter Carter Peter McCracken
23 Matthew Nicks Justin Crawford Robert Neill Shane Fell Glen Coleman Colin Hounsell Bob Kingston
24 Jude Bolton Mark Orchard Derek Kickett Stephen Taubert John Blair Alan "Bull" Richardson
25 Andrew Schauble Scott Russell Simon Hawking Clinton King Troy Gray Barry Round Hayden McAuliffe
26 Sean Dempster Leigh Brockman Simon Feast Adam Coughlan Dion Myles Peter Caven Tony Begovich Stephen Wright Steve Hoffman Jeff "Torch" McGee
27 Jason Ball Wade Chapman Sanford "Matthew" Wheeler Max James Reg Gleeson
28 Jared Crouch Daryn Cresswell Graeme Cordy Michael Smith
29 Mark Powell Luke Ablett Scott Russell Will Sangster Simon Garlick Matthew AhMat Neil Cordy David McLeish
30 Lewis Roberts-Thomson Heath James Mark Bayes David Rhys-Jones Shane Zantuck Fred Way
31 Brett Kirk Stefan Carey Damian Lang Darren Holmes Michael Phyland Francis Jackson Stewart Bennett
32 Amon Buchanan Stephen Doyle Jason McPherson Ben Wilson Daniel McPherson Scott Robinson Paul Morwood Paul Morwood Robert Doyle
33 Jarred Moore Rowan Warfe Ben Hollands Dion Myles Scott Direen Tony Malakellis Terry Thripp Greg Lambert
34 Guy Campbell# Daniel Hunt Troy Luff Paul Hawke Stewart Gull
35 Jarrad Sundqvist Scott Stevens Brett Rose Stuart Mangin Simon Garlick David Murphy Peter Morrison Shane McKew
36 Tim Schmidt Adam Schneider Leigh Brockman# Ben Mathews Matthew Nicks Andrew Donnelly Nathan Irvin Mark Kellett Grant Bartholomaeus Alf Beus
37 Adam Goodes David McEwan Clinton King Tim Scott Peter Filandia Richard Ambrose Robert Teal Clem Goonan
38 Luke Vogels# Josh Thewlis Ricky Mott Brett White# Dwayne Simpson Paul Licuria Michael O'Loughlin Andrew Bomford Mark Russell
39 Heath Grundy# Scott McGlone# Scott Muller# Ryan O'Keefe Mark Kinnear Adam Heuskes Warwick Capper Warwick Capper
40 Nick Malceski Chris Obst# Ben Fixter Fred Campbell Brett O'Farrell Leigh Marshall Emil Parthenides Shayne Smith
41 Andrew Ericksen Ryan Crawford Ricky O'Loughlin# Tadhg Kennelly Troy Cook Ben Mathews Stefan Carey Ashley Thompson Gary Stevens Robert Prosser
42 Paul Bevan Gerard Bennett Simon Arnott Will Sangster Simon Arnott Wade Chapman Andrew Thomson
43 Stefan Garrubba# James Meiklejohn Tom Hill# Brent Piltz David Le Pavoux# Shane-Lee Frederiksen# Adam Ryder# Brett Kirk* Chris O'Dwyer* Matthew Aston Scott Direen Mark Browning Wayne Ewin
44 Matthew Davis Declan O'Mahoney# Michael Swan# Peter McGrath# Mark Brown# Leigh Marshall# Andrew Bomford* Glenn Gorman Richard Osbourne
45 Earl Shaw# Aaron Rogers Luke Jarjoura# Paul Allison# Mark Livy# Steven Mahar# Paul Rouvray Mark Armstrong* Stefan Carey Greg Stafford Paul Kelly
46 Ed Clarke# Luke Taylor# Tony Lockett Leigh Brockman# Nathan Tresize# Justin Fuller* Steven Priest* Daryl Griffen
47 Nick Potter# Scott Muller# Brad McMahon# David Harrison# Michael Hewitt* Leon Higgins
48 Andrew Hayes# Brett White# James Byrne# Nick Carroll* Daniel McPherson Gavin McMahon Brad Tunbridge
49 Barnaby Howarth* Matthew Fowler* Damian Pleming*
50 Paul Scoullar* Jason McPherson# Phil Maunder* Dion Myles
51
52
53 Tom Gorham*
54 Adam Coles*
55
56
57
58
59
60 Craig Davis

[swantastic]

Originally posted by Reggi
32

McPherson, S Direen (also wore a lower number) Buchanan

[Gary]

Ken McCormack...a great winger / clubman in the 50's was # 36.
I would stand as a young fella on the outer wing at the Lake Oval & watch him play his heart out every week...mostly losses.

[Gary]

Might have missed in the listing but was Licuria # 6 for us?

[Benevolent Ert]

Originally posted by Gary
Might have missed in the listing but was Licuria # 6 for us?

Nope, Dunkley wore #6 throughout Licuria's entire time on our list.

[Nico]

The legend of the 50's Ron Clegg I believe was 23.

[Gary]

Confirmed Nico re Clegg. Another great player I watched in the 50's...came back after coaching in the country I think...won the Brownlow in 47 or thereabouts after playing in the 46 "bloodvath" GF as a youngster.

[ugg]

Originally posted by Gary
Might have missed in the listing but was Licuria # 6 for us?
Licuria wore #38

[swantastic]

Originally posted by Nico
The legend of the 50's Ron Clegg I believe was 23. Dont forget 1949 Brownlow.

[Nico]

Paul Briglia No.1 played 16 games 1959-61. Do you remember him Gary.

[Nico]

Ken Boyd, was he number 32.

[Gary]

Nico...yes I remember the name Briglia...but cannot place him in terms of appearance or ability...I guess 16 games tells the story. Boyd was 32 from memory...there was a character...some ability & a lot of fire! I think Bob Pratt Junior was 10 like his father...unforunately a modest talent unlike dad. The pressure on him was awful. Remember Jim Dorgan...gutsy back pocket...a low # I think...perhaps 3 but not sure. Was Frank Johnson 8?

[silent lurker]

14 Michael Kennedy, been used in the last 2 Swans trivia nights

[ScottH]

It is incomplete, and still a work in progress, but.....
Numbers (http://www.redandwhiteonline.com/numbers.php)

[goswannie14]

Originally posted by ScottH
It is incomplete, and still a work in progress, but.....
Numbers (http://www.redandwhiteonline.com/numbers.php) Where's your crystal ball? I was hoping you could tell me what Spida's number will be next year.;)

[ScottH]

Originally posted by goswannie14
Where's your crystal ball? I was hoping you could tell me what Spida's number will be next year.;) 10.

[goswannie14]

Originally posted by ScottH
10. Do you have proof or are you just speculating?

[ScottH]

Originally posted by goswannie14
Do you have proof or are you just speculating? Neither. He was 10 at StK. and wanted 10 at Hawks, but couldn't get it. So it is a natural assumption.

[goswannie14]

Originally posted by ScottH
Neither. He was 10 at StK. and wanted 10 at Hawks, but couldn't get it. So it is a natural assumption. I thought the same thing. Evidently many kids at the family day wanted Spida's number at the face painting, but because it han't been confirmed yet, they couldn't paint it on anyones face.

[satchmopugdog]

He should have "legs 11"

[ItsAllGoodes]

Here are the numbers for next season

http://sydneyswans.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=310613

Still no 14
As assumed Spida got 10
Interesting that a rookie got 7

1 Barry Hall
2 Nick Davis
3 Jarrad McVeigh
4 Ben Mathews
5 Ryan O'Keefe
6 Craig Bolton
7 Luke Brennan
8 Daniel O'Keefe
9 Nick Malceski
10 Peter Everitt
12 Nic Fosdike
13 Adam Schneider
15 Stephen Doyle
16 Darren Jolly
17 Tadhg Kennelly
18 Jesse White
19 Michael O'Loughlin
20 Luke Ablett
21 Leo Barry
22 Matthew Laidlaw
23 Peter Faulks
24 Jude Bolton
25 Ted Richards
26 Sean Dempster
27 Kristin Thornton
28 Jared Crouch
29 Jonathan Simpkin
30 Lewis Roberts-Thomson
31 Brett Kirk
32 Amon Buchanan
33 Jarred Moore
34 Ryan Brabazon
35 Daniel Currie
36 Tim Schmidt
37 Adam Goodes
38 Luke Vogels
39 Heath Grundy
40 Nick Smith
41 Ed Barlow
42 Paul Bevan
43 Matthew O'Dwyer
44 Matthew Davis
45 Earl Shaw
46 Sam Rowe
47 Simon Phillips
48 Kieran Jack

[AnnieH]

Thanks IAGs.

I knew the numbers were allocated before Xmas ... but don't get their "official" presentation till March!!:D

Good to see Spida got the 10 he wanted. I hope the does the number justice for us. He's got big shoes to fill.

I'm glad they've let 14 rest. Save it for when we have one captain (or until Goodsey gets the brownlow again late 2007).:D

[SimonH]

Despite BBBH being #1, Sydney in the modern era don't seem to run with the whole 'higher numbers being better' thing, and quite simply slot 'em all in wherever they fit. Three mainstays of the club are #s 31, 32 and 37, while a rookie is in single figures and a slightly rough late draft pick in the teens; that wouldn't happen at most other clubs.

The only guy in my memory to take a 'promotion' was Schneider... and it nearly backfired badly.

[ugg]

Originally posted by SimonH
Despite BBBH being #1, Sydney in the modern era don't seem to run with the whole 'higher numbers being better' thing, and quite simply slot 'em all in wherever they fit. Three mainstays of the club are #s 31, 32 and 37, while a rookie is in single figures and a slightly rough late draft pick in the teens; that wouldn't happen at most other clubs.

The only guy in my memory to take a 'promotion' was Schneider... and it nearly backfired badly.

Malceski went from 40 to 9 last year, and that went pretty alright.

[AnnieH]

Originally posted by ugg
Malceski went from 40 to 9 last year, and that went pretty alright.

Goodsey went from 41 to 37.
His next promotion will be to 14.

[ScottH]

Originally posted by Annie Haddad
Goodsey went from 41 to 37.
His next promotion will be to 14. Doubt it. He has won 2 Charlies with #37 on his back, he won't change it now.

[AnnieH]

Originally posted by ScottH
Doubt it. He has won 2 Charlies with #37 on his back, he won't change it now.

Shut up (*valley girl voices please).
I can dream if I want to.
Who died and made you king damien?
(Don't say Elvis, he was pumping petrol in front of me this morning at the local Caltex.)

:D:D

[ugg]

Seems no one wants to touch #14 now, and I don't blame them. Imaging the pressure they would be under! #11 seems to be heading down that road as well.

[Reggi]

Ok here goes. Can't be bothered reading all posts so some of these you may already have.

1. John Ironmonger, Paul Roos, Len Thompson, John Murphy,(ex-fitzroy) Greg Stafford, Neville Fields, Ray Ball???(father of Luke) Greg Stafford

2. Vic Aanensen, Greg Williams Wayne Schwass.

3 Mick Stilo, Gerrard Healy, Dale Lewis

4 Keith Baskin, Tony Lockett, Merv Neagle, Dean McRae

5 John Rantal,l Ian Roberts, Craig O'Brien

6 Andrew Dunkley, Silvio Foschini, Shannon Grant, Brett Scott.

7. Gary Brice, Dennis Carrol Kevin Goss, Brad Seymour

8. John Scarlett,(father of Matthew) John Murphy (70's) Barry Beecroft, Tony Haenan (father of Toby, Australian swimmer),Greg Smith, Michael Wright, Daryn Creswell, Simon Minton-Connell

9. David Ackerley, Gerrard Neesham (dockers coach), Wayne Henwood

10 John Roberts, Bob Pratt, Wayne Walsh, David Bolton, Brian Woodman, Peter Filandia, Barry Mitchell.

11. Peter Bedford, Mark Browning, Stuart Maxfield, Darren Kappler

12 Norm Goss, Kevin Dyson

13. Graham Dempster (father of Sean) Rod Carter, Greg Miller.(the bloke who pinched Carey from us)

14 Bob Skilton, David Young, Tony Franklin, Stephen Allender, Paul Kelly.

15 Bernie Evans, Stephan Carey??? Greg Stafford (Early)

16. Ricky Quade

17. Russell Cook, Russell Hodges, Jason Mooney, Tadhg Kennelly, Craig Potter.

18. Paul Harrison, Wayne Carroll, Robert Dean.

19. Anthony Daniher, Terry O'neill, Jim Prentice, Graeme Jacobs, Michael O'Loughlin. Terry Daniher???? (not sure on this one)

20. Graeme Teasdale, Ian Thompson, John Sudholz

21. John Pitura, Tony Morwood, Michael Byrne

22. Peter Carter, Peter McCracken, Craig Holden

23. Colin Hounsell, Matthew Nicks

24. John Blair, Derek Kickett, Alan Richardson (father of Matthew), Steve Taubert.

25 Barry Round, Haydn McAuliffe

26. Steve Hoffman, Simon Feast.

27. Reg Gleeson, Wade Chapman, Max James (father of Heath)

29. David McLeish

30. Fred Way Shane Zantuck, David Rhys-Jones

31. Stuart Bennett, Francis Jackson.

32. Robert Doyle (father of Stephen)

33. Greg Lambert

34. Stewart Gull, Paul Hawke, Max Kruse, Troy Luff, Paul Morwood.

35 Peter Morrison, Shane Mckew, David Murphy,

36 Alf Beus

39. Warrick Capper, Adam Heuskes

43. Mark Browning (early)

47. Leon Higgins

Need to add

No 5 L Holland (46, 47, 48)

Alf Beus god help us

[silent lurker]

Despite BBBH being #1, Sydney in the modern era don't seem to run with the whole 'higher numbers being better' thing, and quite simply slot 'em all in wherever they fit. Three mainstays of the club are #s 31, 32 and 37, while a rookie is in single figures and a slightly rough late draft pick in the teens; that wouldn't happen at most other clubs.

The only guy in my memory to take a 'promotion' was Schneider... and it nearly backfired badly.
Tadhg Kennelly went from 41 to 17
Ryan O'Keefe went from 39 to 5
Ben Mathews went from 36 to 4
Stephen Doyle went from 32 to 15



Goodsey went from 41 to 37.
His next promotion will be to 14.
Goodes never wore 41. Tadhg took that number over from Troy Cook.

[DeadlyAkkuret]

I think Jack should be given the number 14. Giving it to someone like Malceski or Kennelly, would be like a curse because they're already settled and having great careers to date.

[hammo]

I think Jack should be given the number 14.
That's next months' Herald headline :rolleyes:

[liz]

Tadhg Kennelly went from 41 to 17
Ryan O'Keefe went from 39 to 5
Ben Mathews went from 36 to 4
Stephen Doyle went from 32 to 15


Plus Malceski went from something (40 or 41?) to 9

[swansrule100]

heres a few players someone could sort into numbers if they havent already

http://afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=2220

[Reggi]

heres a few players someone could sort into numbers if they havent already

http://afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=2220


Many of those players never joined Sydney

We were so poor in those days many of the players never came to the club, from our 1992 picks I think only Andrew Donnelly joined the club 12 months later

We could not afford the clearence fees etc

[ugg]

Plus Malceski went from something (40 or 41?) to 9
#40

Plus:
Adam Schneider #36 -> #13
Greg Stafford #15 -> #1
Ben Fixter #41 -> #9
Scott Stevens #35 -> #16
Heath James #30 -> #18

Didn't Simon Arnott go from #2 back to #42 when Schwass arrived?

[goswannie14]

#40

Plus:
Adam Schneider #36 -> #13
Greg Stafford #15 -> #1
Ben Fixter #41 -> #9
Scott Stevens #35 -> #16
Heath James #30 -> #18

Didn't Simon Arnott go from #2 back to #42 when Schwass arrived?According to the footage for MOL's 250 he went from 38 to 19.

[ScottH]

According to the footage for MOL's 250 he went from 38 to 19.
In 1995 - 38
1996 -> 19

[wedge.maverick]

I have a number of old footy records and would have numbers of reserves players as well as a fairly detailed list of reserves players from about 1983 to the end of the reserves comp in the AFL. Is there any interest in adding these to the numbers list?

[ScottH]

I have a number of old footy records and would have numbers of reserves players as well as a fairly detailed list of reserves players from about 1983 to the end of the reserves comp in the AFL. Is there any interest in adding these to the numbers list?
I have been (trying) compiling a list at the moment, from various resources. So any help would be great.

[goswannie14]

I have been (trying) compiling a list at the moment, from various resources. So any help would be great.
I just received "The Encyclopaedia of AFL footballers" for my birthday. It appears to have numbers for most players.

[Doctor J.]

I have been (trying) compiling a list at the moment, from various resources. So any help would be great.

Try this link
I only discovered the other day that it had the numbers recently added.

No way of knowing if they are 100% accurate, but they seem to be.

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/alltime/swans.html

Can already see a number of errors in the existing RWO numbers database. Happens when we are relying on the faded memories of posters (Mine)

And I've finally remembered that Terry Daniher wore number 2 in the 18 of his 19 games that he played for us

eg:
Greg Miller was 5 not 13
Neville Miller was 13
Robert Doyle was 28 not 32
Robert Brown was 32
John Murphy was 6 not 8.
These are just some of the errors I can see that this link has highlighted

[goswannie14]

There were 2 John Murphy's, one from 70-73 wore number 6, the other from Fitzroy 78-79 wore number 1.

[ScottH]

Try this link
I only discovered the other day that it had the numbers recently added.

No way of knowing if they are 100% accurate, but they seem to be.

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/alltime/swans.html

Can already see a number of errors in the existing RWO numbers database. Happens when we are relying on the faded memories of posters (Mine)

And I've finally remembered that Terry Daniher wore number 2 in the 18 of his 19 games that he played for us

eg:
Greg Miller was 5 not 13
Neville Miller was 13
Robert Doyle was 28 not 32
Robert Brown was 32
John Murphy was 6 not 8.
These are just some of the errors I can see that this link has highlightedThsnk Dr J. I found that a week or so ago as well. And have been using it. While useful, I need a list that I can convert into a DB to update the current list we have. It is a very time consuming task.

I have also been here (http://stats.afl.com.au/public/statistics/playerseasonlist/15/1996/playerseasonlist_15_1996.shtml?club_idIndex=15&season_idIndex=100) on the AFL site. But doesn't seem to have as many numbers as the stats.rleague link.

[Doctor J.]

Thsnk Dr J. I found that a week or so ago as well. And have been using it. While useful, I need a list that I can convert into a DB to update the current list we have. It is a very time consuming task.

I have also been here (http://stats.afl.com.au/public/statistics/playerseasonlist/15/1996/playerseasonlist_15_1996.shtml?club_idIndex=15&season_idIndex=100) on the AFL site. But doesn't seem to have as many numbers as the stats.rleague link.

I know what you mean.

I suppose you could cut and paste 110 times into an excell spreadsheet. Data/Text to Columns and there you have a data base.

Its the cut paste 110 times that hurts.:)

[ScottH]

I know what you mean.

I suppose you could cut and paste 110 times into an excell spreadsheet. Data/Text to Columns and there you have a data base.

Its the cut paste 110 times that hurts.:)
I did that from 2007 back to 1980 which took a "small" amout of time, text to cols is automatic, but then formatting it into something I could turn into a usualble DB was the worst of it. I've got down to letter C (it's in surname order). Wedge.Mav is going to add some more number for me. Then Give me a couple of years to get it up and running. ;)

[Benevolent Ert]

Once I get my old computer back up and running I'll be able to input the data from that site into my existing spreadsheet, which is the one Scott used for the database here

[ScottH]

Once I get my old computer back up and running I'll be able to input the data from that site into my existing spreadsheet, which is the one Scott used for the database hereWell, the guy that runs http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/alltime/swans.html has most kindly given me 3 versions of the swans numbers.

One is similar to the one you have built Ert. I'll send it to you.
There is no guarantee on the data as he stated, he just built it from gathering the info himself.

I'm currently redesigning the player numbers stuff, and now with the data, it should be up and running soon.

[ScottH]

With the kind help of wedge.maverick the numbers DB has been updated.

Find it on the RWO Links on the Navbar, or Player Numbers (http://www.redandwhiteonline.com/playernumbers.php)

If there are any alterations let me know.

[ItsAllGoodes]

Recently, on aflinsider.net they had a list of the best players in recent years (last 20?) wearing each number, e.g. Adam Goodes was the best 37 ever, Kirky was the best 31 etc. Paul Bevan may even have been the best 42!!!!!

Why dont we have a best Swans player to wear each number poll...but due to the age of most Swans supporters and the more recent move to Sydney, lets limit it to players who have worn the number since 1960

It will create some great debates...such as...

1. Paul Roos vs Barry Hall
2. Nick Davis vs Wayne Schwass vs Greg Williams
3. Dale Lewis vs Gerard Healy
4. Tony Lockett vs Ben Mathews
5. Ryan O'Keefe vs Ian Roberts vs John Rantall
10. Paul Williams vs Barry Mitchell
14. Bobby Skilton vs Paul Kelly
etc


If people think this is a good idea I will set up a poll for each number, one at a time...which will run for 1 day

[swantastic]

With the kind help of wedge.maverick the numbers DB has been updated.

Find it on the RWO Links on the Navbar, or Player Numbers (http://www.redandwhiteonline.com/playernumbers.php)

If there are any alterations let me know.How come it ends with 1912?

[ScottH]

With the kind help of wedge.maverick the numbers DB has been updated.

Find it on the RWO Links on the Navbar, or Player Numbers (http://www.redandwhiteonline.com/playernumbers.php)

If there are any alterations let me know.How come it ends with 1912?That's when numbers were first used.

[ScottH]

Recently, on aflinsider.net they had a list of the best players in recent years (last 20?) wearing each number, e.g. Adam Goodes was the best 37 ever, Kirky was the best 31 etc. Paul Bevan may even have been the best 42!!!!!

Why dont we have a best Swans player to wear each number poll...but due to the age of most Swans supporters and the more recent move to Sydney, lets limit it to players who have worn the number since 1960

It will create some great debates...such as...

1. Paul Roos vs Barry Hall
2. Nick Davis vs Wayne Schwass vs Greg Williams
3. Dale Lewis vs Gerard Healy
4. Tony Lockett vs Ben Mathews
5. Ryan O'Keefe vs Ian Roberts vs John Rantall
10. Paul Williams vs Barry Mitchell
14. Bobby Skilton vs Paul Kelly
etc


If people think this is a good idea I will set up a poll for each number, one at a time...which will run for 1 day
Good idea IAG, you might want to run it for more than 1 day though at this time of year. Either that or wait a few months until traffic picks up on here.

[RonClegg1949bro]

NO 23

Nicks, J Crawford, Glenn Coleman


:hmmm sry but why isnt Ron Clegg There he won a brownow captained the side and coached it at the same Time :adore witch Idiot :mad: forgot prob the best half backman we have ever had pfft sry but i had 2 say it :)

[goswannie14]

On my computer it says Ron Clegg, 1945 to 1960.:hmmm

[ScottH]

NO 23

Nicks, J Crawford, Glenn Coleman


:hmmm sry but why isnt Ron Clegg There he won a brownow captained the side and coached it at the same Time :adore witch Idiot :mad: forgot prob the best half backman we have ever had pfft sry but i had 2 say it :)Not forgotten, just added later.
The legend of the 50's Ron Clegg I believe was 23.
I dare say most of us weren't around to remember the 50's.

[wedge.maverick]

New numbers up on the Swans website.A couple of new ones.

Craig Bird 14
Patrick Veszpremi 13
Brett Meredith 38
Martin Mattner 29
Henry Playfair 26
Kieran Jack 15

All we need now is for the rookie profiles to be put up.

[ScottH]

New numbers up on the Swans website.A couple of new ones.

Craig Bird 14
Patrick Veszpremi 13
Brett Meredith 38
Martin Mattner 29
Henry Playfair 26
Kieran Jack 15

All we need now is for the rookie profiles to be put up.Thanks, Numbers DB and Wiki updated.