Round 4 Game Day - The Season So Far

[Mechanic]

Checked the act comp and its worse there than in Sydney. 6 team comp (boring) and the bottom two teams have won 11 games between them in 4 years. How crap is that. Started that way again this year.
Simple.
4 clubs slide up there and 4 slide up in Sydney. Ressies play local 1’s, 3’s play local 2 etc.
Fix two comps at once.
If Tom Wills is right it wont really fix either one but it would buy the AFL time to do something with the struggling clubs
Give me a job at the AFL!!

[mrns]

I know I'm new but noone could be serious about a higher level competition that puts a team in that gets beaten by 200 points. Don't mean to disrespect them but that would make the competition a joke. Cant see why Camden would want any involvement with that. Wouldnt it kill their club and cant see why the top teams would send top players to paly that game. Makes a joke of a higher level competition. The AFL would have to do better than that. If the issue is 4 clubs why dont they slide those 4 clubs up a level. Pekays senior would play NS 5ths and the game would be competitive. If NS reserves played premier div they would struggle against a few clubs so all grades get more even. you only have to get some teams for the seniors of those four clubs to play against. Albury is to far but Canberra maybe. that might actually be a higher level competition

I do fear for Camden, I couldn't imagine registering each year knowing that you're going to lose a lot of games. If there's no belief in playing finals then what is the result?

For what it is worth, North Shore 5ths did play a clubs 1st team last year, they lost to them in grand final and failed to register a goal.

[Mechanic]

The current “state league” proposal is for a 6 team Sydney only competition. It does include Camden as one of the 6 so based on current form it’s not really about elevating the best teams to a higher level or reducing the unevenness of the competition Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I know I'm new but noone could be serious about a higher level competition that puts a team in that gets beaten by 200 points. Don't mean to disrespect them but that would make the competition a joke. Cant see why Camden would want any involvement with that. Wouldnt it kill their club and cant see why the top teams would send top players to paly that game. Makes a joke of a higher level competition. The AFL would have to do better than that. If the issue is 4 clubs why dont they slide those 4 clubs up a level. Pekays senior would play NS 5ths and the game would be competitive. If NS reserves played premier div they would struggle against a few clubs so all grades get more even. you only have to get some teams for the seniors of those four clubs to play against. Albury is to far but Canberra maybe. that might actually be a higher level competition

[Tom Wills]

Don't mistake well run business, organisations and clubs with elitism. .

Old Dog - If think you missed the point of my post - I was not calling the big 4 elitist, it was the vert opposite. The problem is they are too well run and too professional and are creating a significant imbalance across all divisions. As Peky advised Nor-West got thumped by NS 4ths.

Mechanic - the problems started when the big clubs took on a team growth strategy. When you grow your club to 4, 5, and 6 men's teams your club get stronger in every team down. In the old days the 3rds was a bit of shamble, now 3rds footy is outstanding quality. Yes there is a small amount of tongue in check, but it is a real problem the creation of a "state league" won't fix the imbalance across all Divisions.

[Mechanic]

If all this has only come from 5 years ago what caused it and why isn’t it just another cycle

[Mechanic]

Ha ... my suggestion was more about "kicking them out" to create a more even competition (across all Divisions) more than an elitist 4 team competition but can see the comparison.

Big call Tommy. Is your tongue in your cheek. Haven't been on hear long enough to work that out.
Checked the comps and the clubs you said have 27 of 64 teams in the men’s side. Take it this isn’t about the women’s comps.
27 out of 80 if you put in platinum teams.
That’s a pretty big hole.
I take it you don’t care what they do. Play or not.

[Old Puppy]

Wow now that’s an interesting statement! Don’t tell me you have been privy to the confidential state league report held so preciously by AFL after the Independant consultation ????@??.
That confidential information I was told only Henry the octopus was privy, albeit slipped under the table by his now unemployed apprentice!
You must be special too Andreww1

[andreww1]

Whispers were last year about a state league competition in replacement of the NEAFL. I'm not sure on the validity of these whispers. But no doubt if this was to happen these 4 clubs would be part of it.

The talk of 4 teams leaving to form their own comp has some EPL vibes to it!

The current “state league” proposal is for a 6 team Sydney only competition. It does include Camden as one of the 6 so based on current form it’s not really about elevating the best teams to a higher level or reducing the unevenness of the competition.


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[Old Puppy]

Elitist where did that come from Tom? From a bloke who calls himself tom wills.

Don't mistake well run business, organisations and clubs with elitism.

The problem with competition in Sydney is that the well run clubs have improved to a level way beyond expectations over the last 5 years and left the poorly run behind. Whilst a lot of success is cyclical and many teams have enjoyed success over the last 15 years, its all about how they are run, in particular their junior programs and that is not rocket science its footy 101.

Take a look at the under achievers at all levels, one common thread and its covered above.

North Shore were exceptionally good across all teams on the weekend and enjoyed the weeks results, and good luck to this well run organisation.

Unlike the volunteers on here with a bit banter, lets hope AFL make the tough calls required and start steering the ship in right direction.

[Tom Wills]

The talk of 4 teams leaving to form their own comp has some EPL vibes to it!

Ha ... my suggestion was more about "kicking them out" to create a more even competition (across all Divisions) more than an elitist 4 team competition but can see the comparison.

[Pekay]

Waratah Oval

Camden sitting on 22% and 12% in reserves.

Could it be time to see a Platinum club be making a push to be promoted to premier division?

Whispers were last year about a state league competition in replacement of the NEAFL. I'm not sure on the validity of these whispers. But no doubt if this was to happen these 4 clubs would be part of it.

The talk of 4 teams leaving to form their own comp has some EPL vibes to it!

Throw Albury in the mix

[mrns]

It is odd - but I can't think of any other options. If the super clubs were only strong in Prems then there are multiple other options, but they are strong through all of their teams. Would love to hear some other options to the imbalance across all Divisions.

P.S. a 4 team competition works in Broken Hill

Whispers were last year about a state league competition in replacement of the NEAFL. I'm not sure on the validity of these whispers. But no doubt if this was to happen these 4 clubs would be part of it.

The talk of 4 teams leaving to form their own comp has some EPL vibes to it!

[Pekay]

Our Seniors got thumped by Shore's 4th grade, and only just pipped their 5th grade a few weeks back, and our Seniors is quite a good list this year. They have massive numbers and good depth of quality.

[Tom Wills]

New to Sydney but not new to footy.
The only solution is to take 4 clubs out of the competition? Sounds odd how would you make that work

It is odd - but I can't think of any other options. If the super clubs were only strong in Prems then there are multiple other options, but they are strong through all of their teams. Would love to hear some other options to the imbalance across all Divisions.

P.S. a 4 team competition works in Broken Hill

[Mechanic]

New to Sydney but not new to footy.
The only solution is to take 4 clubs out of the competition? Sounds odd how would you make that work