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  • connolly
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    Originally posted by sharp9
    Didn't give an instruction, they just did the votes and didn't give him any. the young umpire was very surprised, though seeing as Williams had 40 touches.

    Personally iIthought that that was an appropriate call, it's a best and fairest after all. If you abuse the umpire than that should demote you way down the rankings in the votes, i would have thought. just 'cos they aren't consistent about it doesn't mean they were wrong in this instance.
    Should it be called the Brownose Medal?

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  • stellation
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    Originally posted by sharp9
    Didn't give an instruction, they just did the votes and didn't give him any. the young umpire was very surprised, though seeing as Williams had 40 touches.

    Personally iIthought that that was an appropriate call, it's a best and fairest after all. If you abuse the umpire than that should demote you way down the rankings in the votes, i would have thought. just 'cos they aren't consistent about it doesn't mean they were wrong in this instance.
    My understanding was that the young umpire said he was told not to vote for Williams.

    Edit: okay my understanding wasn't completely accurate;
    Bird claimed that when he suggested Williams be given votes, Russo asked him if the mid-fielder had made their job any easier.

    Bird said no and claimed Williams had given them a hard time during the game.
    link

    Whilst I agree that it is best and fairest, surely the "best" component has to come into it at some point? Williams had 44 disposals and didn't get a single vote.
    Last edited by stellation; 5 March 2008, 10:26 AM.

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  • connolly
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    Originally posted by TheGrimReaper
    It goes to show that maybe the Umpires shouldn't be giving the Brownlow Medal votes at all? Maybe a panel would be a better idea, consist of former players, media experts and former umpires.
    You were going ok till the "media experts" idea

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  • TheGrimReaper
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    Originally posted by sharp9
    Didn't give an instruction, they just did the votes and didn't give him any. the young umpire was very surprised, though seeing as Williams had 40 touches.

    Personally iIthought that that was an appropriate call, it's a best and fairest after all. If you abuse the umpire than that should demote you way down the rankings in the votes, i would have thought. just 'cos they aren't consistent about it doesn't mean they were wrong in this instance.
    It goes to show that maybe the Umpires shouldn't be giving the Brownlow Medal votes at all? Maybe a panel would be a better idea, consist of former players, media experts and former umpires.

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  • sharp9
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    Didn't give an instruction, they just did the votes and didn't give him any. the young umpire was very surprised, though seeing as Williams had 40 touches.

    Personally iIthought that that was an appropriate call, it's a best and fairest after all. If you abuse the umpire than that should demote you way down the rankings in the votes, i would have thought. just 'cos they aren't consistent about it doesn't mean they were wrong in this instance.

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  • TheGrimReaper
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    Originally posted by stellation
    Will the AFL reopen the case raised by Greg Williams? I believe there were revelations that an umpire gave an instruction, dismissed as an off the cuff remark, not to give him 3 votes following a game he was BOG in. He didn't receive the 3 votes and went on to miss out on the Brownlow by 1.
    He does have a case, but that would make the AFL look stupid and wrong!! Nothing will probably happen.

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  • stellation
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    Will the AFL reopen the case raised by Greg Williams? I believe there were revelations that an umpire gave an instruction, dismissed as an off the cuff remark, not to give him 3 votes following a game he was BOG in. He didn't receive the 3 votes and went on to miss out on the Brownlow by 1.

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  • TheGrimReaper
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    It proves my theory that the AFL are nothing more than hypocrites.

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  • satchmopugdog
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    It's a shame we can't carry round an emoticom to let people know it is tongue in cheek.


    I liked that line at the end of the article about burning martyr instead of sacrificial lamb.

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  • liz
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    Originally posted by BSA5
    I call bull@@@@. No umpire is going to admit that sort of thing. I think it's the same as Roosy. The guy was joking, but the Swans employee didn't pick up on it.

    That is the whole point of the article though - that the Swans did realise it was almost certainly an off-the-cuff, meant-to-be humorous comment and thus acted accordingly.

    In contrast to the current comings and goings...

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  • BSA5
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    I call bull@@@@. No umpire is going to admit that sort of thing. I think it's the same as Roosy. The guy was joking, but the Swans employee didn't pick up on it.

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  • stellation
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    Those darn umpires! If it wasn't for them we would have been a successful club over the last few years, instead of this pathetic run of finals appearances, the 2 consecutive Grand Finals and the premiership.

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  • connolly
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    We have been subjected to and adversely affected by "policy" umpiring for some time. This is different from mere bias and is the deliberate strategy of the AFL arse clowns to determine the style of the game. Reminicisent of the rule changes in billiards to beat the great Walter Lindrom.

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  • bennyfrou
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    Originally posted by Old Royboy
    We have had many debates on this forum on the continual lop sided free kick counts in Swans matches. Whilst the Swans playing style has contributed, many of us felt that the Swans have been treated harshly in the past.

    Now we have evidence that this was and is the case!!

    Please explain!!!!!

    The Sydney couldn't care less whisper - realfooty.com.au

    "Exasperated by what he believed was an extremely harsh holding-the-ball call, the Swans man voiced his disapproval. In response, he claims, the man in the umpires area responded, somewhat sympathetically: "We've been told to umpire your games differently."
    In light of this article, it is a joke that we now have a case to answer to in regards to match fixing. Can't wait to see how Roos handles himself.

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  • Old Royboy
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    Sydney is Victimised by Umpires

    We have had many debates on this forum on the continual lop sided free kick counts in Swans matches. Whilst the Swans playing style has contributed, many of us felt that the Swans have been treated harshly in the past.

    Now we have evidence that this was and is the case!!

    Please explain!!!!!

    The Sydney couldn't care less whisper - realfooty.com.au

    "Exasperated by what he believed was an extremely harsh holding-the-ball call, the Swans man voiced his disapproval. In response, he claims, the man in the umpires area responded, somewhat sympathetically: "We've been told to umpire your games differently."
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