Ruck Combo

[liz]

I was happy to see Jolly go - thought he was overrated. Won so many taps with so many of them going to the opposition. We also need ruckmen who are agile and, while resting up forward, can still get the ball and kick goals and tackle and be fit enough and willing to give it his all. Looks like Seaby is not a one trick pony, and with Mumford pulling his weight, we will be better served than last year. With our depth of ruckmen, a dual performing ruckman forward may emerge this year or next. Currie? I think Malthouse will expect Jolly to work consistently harder than he has been doing, and that may be difficult for him.

Bit harsh on Jolly IMO. He is no Dean Cox but he was mobile enough, carried the brunt of the ruckwork for us alone last year (and arguably 2008 as well), improved each year he was on our list, and was a more than handy contributor on the scoreboard.

That said, his decision to leave has delivered us a player who looks to have serious x-factor, plus some highly focussed trading means that our overall ruck brigade has arguably been strengthened, especially when you take into the account the relative age of Jolly versus the recruits.

[Jesse Richards]

I was happy to see Jolly go - thought he was overrated. Won so many taps with so many of them going to the opposition. We also need ruckmen who are agile and, while resting up forward, can still get the ball and kick goals and tackle and be fit enough and willing to give it his all. Looks like Seaby is not a one trick pony, and with Mumford pulling his weight, we will be better served than last year. With our depth of ruckmen, a dual performing ruckman forward may emerge this year or next. Currie? I think Malthouse will expect Jolly to work consistently harder than he has been doing, and that may be difficult for him.

[ShockOfHair]

What's the Orreal situation? Haven't heard anyone mention him for months. He's had this back injury for weeks now, still listed as "soreness".
Sydney Swans Injury List - Official AFL website of the Sydney Swans football club

Has his time passed with Crusher and Pyke ahead of him, or is too many young ruckmen not nearly enough?

[Hartijon]

While some people are praising the efforts of McGlynne and Kennedy at their previous club,the fact is their club let them go without a whimper! That says more than anything else. Mumford on the other hand was treated as a terrible loss by the Cats who tried to keep him but just could not. That says more than anything else as well!

[Primmy]

He is a big big unit, and lost something like 25K to get to where he is now. I like him THIS way.

[Primmy]

RoyBoy, never assume that I can spell the word in I have summoned up my head. I may want to say one word, and another one comes out, not necessarily in English. But I like Leaps and Bounds; perhaps we could name our new ruckman that. Leaps and Bounds !

[T-bag]

RogueSwan my mail in the West has you at spot on

[giant]

Could be a strength for us this weekend. Griffin was very ordinary against Freo, even allowing for the fact he was up against Sandilands. The Crows could bring Maric in but he is still pretty inexperienced himself.

And if they don't bring in Maric, apparently that means the dangerous forward Tippert ends in the ruck. Win-win either way!

Very impressed by this combo - Mummy got better as the night wore on. Maybe a different story vs the Ryders & NicNats of the world but a very promising start.

[RogueSwan]

He is our second ruckman, looking forward to seeing Nic Natanui's face when he is looking down at a 105Kg boilermaker from Bunyip.......

Hopefully he is not looking down at him, rather, looking up.

[goswannie14]

Do you really think so? He is a massive unit and his official stats state that he is 105 kgs the same as Jesse White. You may be right but I not really sure about Robert Walls assessment. One things for sure Walls he doesn't have to give his stock standard comment that he should have a go in trhe ruck to get into the game.

In defence of Walls (okay, shoot me now) I thought his comment was that Mumford had lost weight, not that he needed to.

[Reggi]

Do you really think so? .

Ruckmen need mobility these days, he needs to get around the ground, surely that would be easier if he were 4Kgs lighter. He needs to get around the ground. Seaby looks fitter and seems to get around the ground a lot better

Seaby looks (and sounds like) he has worked hard on his fitness, and is reaping rewards. So from photos, I think he would be better lighter

He is our second ruckman, looking forward to seeing Nic Natanui's face when he is looking down at a 105Kg boilermaker from Bunyip.......

[chalbilto]

I though Seaby was very good, 25% of Mumford's taps were too advantage, in the future ROK will snaffle many. Seaby was good around the ground, but it looked like a very competitive combo

Robert Walls is probably right that Mumford could lose a few Kilos. I think we would all be happy with Seaby, 36 tap outs is ipressive, and he is reasonable around the ground

Both of these guys best footy is ahead of them

Do you really think so? He is a massive unit and his official stats state that he is 105 kgs the same as Jesse White. You may be right but I not really sure about Robert Walls assessment. One things for sure Walls he doesn't have to give his stock standard comment that he should have a go in trhe ruck to get into the game.

[dimelb]

Maybe exponentially prim?? I'm unsure what you meant (and I'm not having a shot..i respect you far too much for that) I assume you meant 'in leaps and bounds'? or am I just a dope and your word is right?

I really like the idea of our ruckmen improving in leaps and bounds.

[Reggi]

I though Seaby was very good, 25% of Mumford's taps were too advantage, in the future ROK will snaffle many. Seaby was good around the ground, but it looked like a very competitive combo

Robert Walls is probably right that Mumford could lose a few Kilos. I think we would all be happy with Seaby, 36 tap outs is ipressive, and he is reasonable around the ground

Both of these guys best footy is ahead of them

[royboy42]

Maybe exponentially prim?? I'm unsure what you meant (and I'm not having a shot..i respect you far too much for that) I assume you meant 'in leaps and bounds'? or am I just a dope and your word is right?

I agree with you Liz - any of the boys who come within Steve Taubets Orbit seem to improve expidentially. Add to that their previous experience and a certain degree of talent and belief then we are doing ok, and so are they. What I saw of MikePyke during ressies on Sat showed how much he has travelled too. All in all I think our stocks are healthy, and I do believe the boys will be the happier knowing they can ruck and push up as well thereby having a far greater contribution overall. Its all good, as they say.