Booing

[KTigers]

From a performance perspective I think Goodsey was playing well enough last year to definitely consider going around again this year. In 2015 (21 games out of a possible 24) he averaged just under 16 disposals a game and kicked a very handy 25 goals for us. He was a very durable player. Only once in his seventeen seasons did he play less than 19 games. Only he and those closest to him will know for sure how much the disgraceful treatment he endured played a part in his decision to retire. My guess is that it played a big part. His decision to not attend the Grand Final parade of retiring players just says it all.

[jono2707]

The post goodes-booing wash up is out of our 3 aboriginal boys one went into early retirement (goodes), one missed a final series due ro depression (buddy) and one asked to be traded home (jetta).
Coincidence? . No.

Did the club or fellow players do enough to support these boys?

I think as a team the captains should have walked the team off during a game.

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Goodsey's time was up, and Jetta had wanted to head back to WA for a good while. Buddy's issues were likely related to what had gone on but I wouldn't think lack of support from within the club were the cause.

And all three of them are men.

[bloodsbigot]

If I see Darren Jolly walking down the street I'd be him.

[stevoswan]

The post goodes-booing wash up is out of our 3 aboriginal boys one went into early retirement (goodes), one missed a final series due ro depression (buddy) and one asked to be traded home (jetta).
Coincidence? . No.

Did the club or fellow players do enough to support these boys?

I think as a team the captains should have walked the team off during a game.

It's a hard one. A walk off certainly would have made an impact and a profound statement, but I fear the Melbourne media, or at least the 'usual suspects' who started the anti Goodes sentiment, would have ultimately made it a very negative outcome/experience for our club......not to mention the a fore mentioned social media trolls, who would have gone 'stone dumb' ballistic!

[barry]

The post goodes-booing wash up is out of our 3 aboriginal boys one went into early retirement (goodes), one missed a final series due ro depression (buddy) and one asked to be traded home (jetta).
Coincidence? . No.

Did the club or fellow players do enough to support these boys?

I think as a team the captains should have walked the team off during a game.

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[stevoswan]

Yes, rational argument can be time consuming. Especially on social media forums, where maybe you might get through to one or two people, but in the meantime, another horde pops up: most of them inspired by a particular tabloid commentator or talkback host. In the end, I wasn't really trying to change anyone's mind. I was operating more on the principle, that many people were probably behaving in a mob like manner, because they wanted social acceptance and pleasurable positive feedback, for mindlessly regurgitating bigoted talking points. So generally, I was just trying to make sure that they got some unpleasant negative feedback; which possibly would make them a little bit less willing to sprout such garbage in the future.

Here here! For every 10 bigots out there who pass their opposition off as 'pinko losers', one may actually get the point and change. We can only hope.

[dejavoodoo44]

I eventually gave up trying rational argument and just sent them a variety of bridges they could go back to.

Yes, rational argument can be time consuming. Especially on social media forums, where maybe you might get through to one or two people, but in the meantime, another horde pops up: most of them inspired by a particular tabloid commentator or talkback host. In the end, I wasn't really trying to change anyone's mind. I was operating more on the principle, that many people were probably behaving in a mob like manner, because they wanted social acceptance and pleasurable positive feedback, for mindlessly regurgitating bigoted talking points. So generally, I was just trying to make sure that they got some unpleasant negative feedback; which possibly would make them a little bit less willing to sprout such garbage in the future.

[Ludwig]

What would happen if our Josh Kennedy decided to go home:
- 3rd Generation Kennedy back at Hawthorn,
- opportunity of captaincy - replacing Hodge when the time comes, (he didn't get the chance with us.)
- raise his family in the "most liveable city in the world".
Who would "boo" him?

I didn't know that Bogota was the most livable city in the world. JPK's not going anywhere. I think Ana has got a lot of her family and Colombiana amigas settled down in Sydney who have business interests in Sydney as well, although losing Michael Talia as a customer may hurt a bit.

[dejavoodoo44]

Yeah, dejavoodoo and I had a lot of fun on Sportsfan for awhile during the Goodsey saga, but gee it was tiring in the end......too many trolls to slay.

Yes, stevo, sometimes it is quite fun to take a bit of time out from one's busy schedule, and to commit to the important task of making angry little men angrier.

[Nico]

What would happen if our Josh Kennedy decided to go home:
- 3rd Generation Kennedy back at Hawthorn,
- opportunity of captaincy - replacing Hodge when the time comes, (he didn't get the chance with us.)
- raise his family in the "most liveable city in the world".
Who would "boo" him?

Not me.

[ScottH]

I've always thought the other indigenous players didn't do enough. If Rioli, Burgoyne and Brad Hill stood up and told their own fans that the booing was unacceptable and it offended them, maybe some good would have come from it. Most teams have an indigenous favourite son who could have delivered the same message.

I was overseas for the worst of it, so was observing from afar, but I saw diddly squat from the other indigenous players and that annoyed me. Rant over.

I've thought about this recently.
If ex players like Long, Winmar, MO'L, Wirrapande etc had of gone into the stands or made more of a show of solidarity, it could have been stamped out or diminished, rather than Goodes going solo on the issue.

Poor form on the rest of his brothers.

[stevoswan]

There are only so many of us troll-slayers out there.
One troll at a time.

Yeah, dejavoodoo and I had a lot of fun on Sportsfan for awhile during the Goodsey saga, but gee it was tiring in the end......too many trolls to slay.

[56-14]

What would happen if our Josh Kennedy decided to go home:
- 3rd Generation Kennedy back at Hawthorn,
- opportunity of captaincy - replacing Hodge when the time comes, (he didn't get the chance with us.)
- raise his family in the "most liveable city in the world".
Who would "boo" him?

[Triple B]

The silent majority didn't do enough to shout down the vocal minority IMO. It always annoyed me. Rant over

I've always thought the other indigenous players didn't do enough. If Rioli, Burgoyne and Brad Hill stood up and told their own fans that the booing was unacceptable and it offended them, maybe some good would have come from it. Most teams have an indigenous favourite son who could have delivered the same message.

I was overseas for the worst of it, so was observing from afar, but I saw diddly squat from the other indigenous players and that annoyed me. Rant over.

[goswannies]

Making silent people shout is a contradiction.
And i thibk you'll find the majority was on the boo ers side.

And I thibk you'll find that my response was to jono2707 saying the majority of people were "against the booing of Adam Goodes last year"