Finals

[barry]

No argument from me on more tickets for fans and less for corporate. But a 100k stadium lets more fans enjoy a grand final and we only have one stadium that accomodates that.

Let's more Victorian fans enjoy the grand final you mean.

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Perhaps your opinion might carry more weight if you had been to one

A smaller ground would likely mean less to tickets for people. Try squeezing a bowling ball in to a billiard ball table pocket and see how well it fits

As I pointed out, a movable grand finals allows more people to go, not less.

Sure, less Victorians, but more from all the other states

[KTigers]

Every now and again a test match is played in Hobart, and has the sky fallen in? I'm sure the ACB loses money on it,
and a whole lot less people go and see it than if it was on pretty much anywhere else. But cricket is a national game, and
people across the country should be able to see it played at the highest level.
If for example every now and again the GF was played at ANZ then 15,000 less Victorians, MCC members and hospitality package buyers
would not be able to attend the game. Would society as we know it collapse? My guess is probably not. Look, I could be wrong.
It's possible it could be all too much and some of the Melbourne clubs would have to disband, footballs would not inflate properly,
and kids not want to have a kick in the backyard anymore.
Many other major sports across the globe have survived being played on neutral grounds. Some of them are not even the largest
capacity stadiums available. The 1991 GF was played at Waverley which holds less people than ANZ, and I gather Hawthorn still
counts that flag in their premiership tally. Or does that flag have an * next to it, because it wasn't played at the "home of footy".

[Doctor J.]

Perhaps your opinion might carry more weight if you had been to one

A smaller ground would likely mean less to tickets for people. Try squeezing a bowling ball in to a billiard ball table pocket and see how well it fits

Not necessarily so. This years GF there were 34,000 tickets allocated to members of competing clubs.

That leaves 66,000 tickets to go to "non aligned" people.

Of those 66,000, 25,133 went to MCC members. and 5,000 to medallion club (etihad stadium members). So individuals got tickets to the GF via membership of a non AFL club.

We also know that 4,513 tickets were issued by AFL clubs who then distributed these to sponsors, coterie groups, staff players etc.

That leave 31354 tickets available to AFL members and corporate sponsors.

Lets assume the same ticket allocation and exclude the MCC and medallion club from tickets. (why should they be included in an event that is being played away from their stadium)

If the game was at ANZ stadium, capacity 83,500

10,000 Stadium members.
34,000 Participating clubs
4,513 AFL clubs
31,354 AFL members and corporate sponsors

79,867 total tickets

With a ground capacity of 83,500 there would be an additional 3,633 tickets available to the football public.

SO in reality a smaller ground does not mean less tickets for the people, in the case of ANZ it actually means more tickets for the real fan, and less tickets for cricket club members and Medallion club members, who are mostly Corporate entities

[0918330512]

Another angle on the GF location is the availability to normal fans.

Currently there are three types of AFL fans regards to GF.
Those that go most years. AFL/MCG members.
Those that go occationally when their team makes it. Via the ballot.
Those that never get to go.

I've followed footy for 30 years, never been to a GF, but have been to two NRL grand finals. Due to location and availability.

Having the AFL GF movable would open it up to a lot more people, not just a select few who go every year.

Perhaps your opinion might carry more weight if you had been to one

A smaller ground would likely mean less to tickets for people. Try squeezing a bowling ball in to a billiard ball table pocket and see how well it fits

[0918330512]

True.
The capacity argument is also hollow. Only 40,000 members of each club get to go to the grand final. Which means every state bar qld could hold that many.

Your narrow, misguided view is that only participating club's members get tickets.

To make an appropriate comparison, less than 40% of tickets go to participating clubs, so a simple extrapolation is that in a 50,000 seat stadium, less than 20000 tickets would go to members (less than 10000 per club).

I caveat this with the fact we wouldn't have to worry about the MCC members getting preference. Although if the crap ANZ stadium was used, I suppose their members might hypocritically expect the same preference benefits.