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    The umpiring problem

    Some straight talking from Richard Hinds.
    "In the face of growing disenchantment, the AFL refuses to acknowledge what club officials and, particularly, fans have known for some time - there is a significant problem with the rules/umpiring."
    " ... umpires are being compelled to impose draconian rules to the letter of the law, with those willing to do so most officiously apparently given the greatest seniority."
    Read the whole piece.
    http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfn...e#contentSwap1
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    Good on Eddie for going them.

    The maggots think they're bigger than the game. I'm sure I spent the whole of last year saying that.

    There were some decisions last Saturday in our game that were just mind boggling.



    ( I just said good on Eddie ... kill me now!!)
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    The thing - OK, one of the things - that frustrates me about Adrian A and Andy D is that they seem to think they "own" the game. The overwhelming voice coming from players, clubs and fans is that they want fewer rules, fewer free kicks, and much less unnecessary interference from the umpires and the rules committee in games. And yet these voices, loud and clear, seem to be being completed ignored by an AFL management intent on shaping the game the way they want it shaped.

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    I don't always agree with Hinds but that article is right on the money. When is the AFL Commission going to wake up and smell the discontent? For that matter, how much longer do we have to put up with Andy D? Isn't it about time someone booted him out of his office?
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    Quote Originally Posted by laughingnome View Post
    I don't always agree with Hinds but that article is right on the money. When is the AFL Commission going to wake up and smell the discontent? For that matter, how much longer do we have to put up with Andy D? Isn't it about time someone booted him out of his office?
    Good question. An AFL coup! Sounds promising.

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    "As much as I hate to defend the Pies"

    McLaren should have been fined or even suspended (1 game) for his "interference" on Shane O'Bree.

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    I just read this article online and was going to post a thread and link to it if it wasnt here already. A very good assessment by Richard Hinds. There has been much deserved criticism here and on Big Footy of the number of rule changes and over officiating of our game.

    I totally agree with Liz's comment above - the arrogance demonstarted by Demetriou and Anderson in their responses to critiscim of rule changes and umpiring is gobsmacking, and it would appear that Hinds' agrees:

    At the same time, the current blitz on accidental contact by players on umpires at centre bounces only enhances the belief that umpires are precious and over-protected - unfair when the thin skin belongs not to those blowing the whistle but those making the rules.
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    Their giving free kicks for ingrown toenails now, forgive an old league supporter but the game, at times, as much as I love it, looks like it's being umpired for girls to play


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    You keep on playing with the rules and make the game ticky touch, people will start to leave the game. Gone are the days where it was man on man. Now its uncontested circle work and defenders don't you dare touch a forward in any manner. Then again that depends on who the forward is.
    In my opinion a good game of football is man on man contest and you don't notice the umpires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nthblood View Post
    You keep on playing with the rules and make the game tiggy touch, people will start to leave the game. Gone are the days where it was man on man. Now its uncontested circle work and defenders don't you dare touch a forward in any manner. Then again that depends on who the forward is.
    In my opinion a good game of football is man on man contest and you don't notice the umpires.
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    Whatever the rules I want them umpired consistently and evenly.
    Sadly, the rules are so complex that there is very little opportunity for umpires to do so.
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    OK, I'm going to go against the grain here and say I've been amazed at the reaction to umpiring during the course of the start of the season.

    There is no major problem with the way our game is being umpired. The majority of changes have been made in reaction to way coaches and players try to exploit every loophole that exists in the way our game is played. Our game has changed so much in the last 25 years most of it as a result of the increasing professionalism and desire to gain the smallest advantage over your opposition. There was a time when you didn't infringe because you knew it was against the rules, now you do as much as you can get away with.
    Originally the back of a player in marking contests was sacrosanct, you had to use your body in a marking contest, locking arms and the use of hands in a marking contest was immediately penalised. Somewhere along the way players were gradually allowed to get away with more and more until "hands in the back" was introduced to counter it.Where a ball up might have attracted 12 to 14 players max now there is 26 or more. How can we expect an umpire to bounce the footy, get his head up and keep an eye on play while backing out of the contest and ensuring he doesn't run into anybody. The creation of that zone behind the umpire is a minimal requirement to allow him to do his job particularly when it is clear players are trying to use the umpire to block particularly taggers during those contests.
    "The overwhelming voice coming from players, clubs and fans is that they want fewer rules, fewer free kicks, and much less unnecessary interference from the umpires and the rules committee in games."
    Then surely our game will decend into something that looks like one of those European fight/football/chaos games. Our rules are what makes our game, surely they have to be enforced.
    Umpires will always make mistakes, particularly given the number of players around the contest these days making clear vision of infringements around the contests very difficult. I think people need to realise thats as part of the game as it has always had been, get over it and get on with it.

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