RWO widely held beliefs

[ROK Lobster]

Opinions can draw hysteriacal reactions on this site -

Some examples

Roos isn't a great coach
Barlow hasn't knocked himself out therefore is not a true blood
Ditto Malceski
Play the youngsters as yesterday's chanpuions wont win us another flag
Ablett's pass to Cousins in the 05 GF could have been fatal
Barry Hall has not played consistently good footy since his poor 06 GF
Players run the club
Nick Davis was not managed well by the club
Nick Davis was a game winner and we sadly lack game winners
LRT is not a very good player
B1, though courageous, is poorly skilled and plays some stinkers
McViegh took longer than expected to mature as a footballer
Sydney has not drafted as well as some other clubs

And the list goes on and on and ...

[SimonH]

Opinions can draw hysteriacal reactions on this site -

Some examples

...
Play the youngsters as yesterday's chanpuions wont win us another flag
Ablett's pass to Cousins in the 05 GF could have been fatal
...
And the list goes on and on and ...

However, yesterday's chanpuions are excellent lightly battered in a red wine sauce.

PS Show me where anyone, ever, including Luke Ablett, has denied that his across-goal pass that led to a mark and goal to Ben Cousins could have cost us the 2005 flag. (In exactly the same way that any passage of play that led to an opposition goal, or a chance at a Swans goal squandered, could have cost the flag in a game decided by less than a kick.) If that topic gets raised one more time to spuriously support any argument, I'll start calling any across-goals kick in defence in a final, the Straw Man Pass.

[connolly]

However, yesterday's chanpuions are excellent lightly battered in a red wine sauce.

PS Show me where anyone, ever, including Luke Ablett, has denied that his across-goal pass that led to a mark and goal to Ben Cousins could have cost us the 2005 flag. (In exactly the same way that any passage of play that led to an opposition goal, or a chance at a Swans goal squandered, could have cost the flag in a game decided by less than a kick.).

Thats a bit cruel. You are referring here to the failure of Davo to even bend down and pick up the beautiful palm down that the future club President gave him in the last quarter of that game. He simply ran past the ball and made a buttered fingered air grab. Could have cost us the game. He gets an armchair ride from a dominant ruckman and fails to pick up. Fortunately for us Buchanon did get his head over the ball, picked it up in one grab and goaled. That passge of play put us in front and we were never headed. Thank christ for Ball and Buchanon. Able to deliver when the pressure was really on. The point is that one mistake isolated can give a distorted significance in the context of the whole game. We tend to remember the mistakes at the end of games. Or in the case of the Davo faithful, conveniently forget them.

[stellation]

Thats a bit cruel. You are referring here to the failure of Davo to even bend down and pick up the beautiful palm down that the future club President gave him in the last quarter of that game. He simply ran past the ball and made a buttered fingered air grab. Could have cost us the game. He gets an armchair ride from a dominant ruckman and fails to pick up. Fortunately for us Buchanon did get his head over the ball, picked it up in one grab and goaled. That passge of play put us in front and we were never headed. Thank christ for Ball and Buchanon. Able to deliver when the pressure was really on. The point is that one mistake isolated can give a distorted significance in the context of the whole game. We tend to remember the mistakes at the end of games. Or in the case of the Davo faithful, conveniently forget them.

Not to be too harsh on you connolly, I appreciate you are clearly a senile old man who thinks he's found something delightful to harp on, but is this perhaps a case of you rewriting history regarding Davo yet again? I direct you to 2:06 of the clip below; I could be mistaken, but I'm fairly certain that Davo never has an opportunity to fail to bend his back and pick up the ball as it never got past Buchanan and Davo was one man on from him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgJ0Sn7cn3E

[Primmy]

Not to be too harsh on you connolly, I appreciate you are clearly a senile old man who thinks he's found something delightful to harp on, but is this perhaps a case of you rewriting history regarding Davo yet again? I direct you to 2:06 of the clip below; I could be mistaken, but I'm fairly certain that Davo never has an opportunity to fail to bend his back and pick up the ball as it never got past Buchanan and Davo was one man on from him.

And I thought I was tragic. I am a minnow amongst whales.

[31 hard at it]

I was sitting directly in front of that masive play in the GF.
If was a carbon copy of the Ball to Davo tap in the Semi (and again Jolly to McVeigh 2 weeks ago).
The players set up and Davo ran wide (I think as a decoy because all West Coast players had watched that Semi and were watching him).
Bucky ran through the lne and bent it around.

The play was clearly a well practiced one and it is amazing that West Coast did not cover it after the Semi Final play was so well publicised.

Both Davo and Bucky did exactly what they trained for in that play and for that they get my eternal thanks and congratulations.

[dimelb]

Davo played his role. He was the distractor and took Wirrpanda out of the play.

[Margie]

Not to be too harsh on you connolly, I appreciate you are clearly a senile old man who thinks he's found something delightful to harp on, but is this perhaps a case of you rewriting history regarding Davo yet again? I direct you to 2:06 of the clip below; I could be mistaken, but I'm fairly certain that Davo never has an opportunity to fail to bend his back and pick up the ball as it never got past Buchanan and Davo was one man on from him.

I loved watching that clip. It almost reignited some of my lost passion for the game.

[connolly]

Not to be too harsh on you connolly, I appreciate you are clearly a senile old man who thinks he's found something delightful to harp on, but is this perhaps a case of you rewriting history regarding Davo yet again? I direct you to 2:06 of the clip below; I could be mistaken, but I'm fairly certain that Davo never has an opportunity to fail to bend his back and pick up the ball as it never got past Buchanan and Davo was one man on from him.

Footy is about opinions. I have had a look at the clip and its worse than my hazy memory here at the nursing home. Davo actually ran away from the ball and the goals. Now he had two options (your suggestion that he ran a decoy is inventive). One was to shepherd which he didn't do and the other was to move into the pack. He did neither and as I said thank christ for Buchanon. The point i am making is that our recollections are coloured by bias and when things occur in the game. Three other points - the tape shows just how much we owed Ball for the premiership. His ruck work in the finals series particularly on the forward was a big factor in the win against Geelong and in the GF. And how much we owe Buchanon for the GF win. Not only did he in the clip attack the ball under enormous pressure in a grand final and kick the winning goal but he played a blinder. I can forgive him a lot in his recent drop off in form and it would be decent if people tempered the calls for his dumping with at least an acknowledgement of what he did on that day. And finally the Bevanator (another unsung hero of the 05 finals campaign) lays a ferocious tackle on the recovering victim with medicinal problems at 13 seconds if i'm not mistaken. A little high but he nailed him. Worth a look just for that. Thanks.

[reigning premier]

Footy is about opinions. I have had a look at the clip and its worse than my hazy memory here at the nursing home. Davo actually ran away from the ball and the goals. Now he had two options (your suggestion that he ran a decoy is inventive). One was to shepherd which he didn't do and the other was to move into the pack. He did neither and as I said thank christ for Buchanon. The point i am making is that our recollections are coloured by bias and when things occur in the game. Three other points - the tape shows just how much we owed Ball for the premiership. His ruck work in the finals series particularly on the forward was a big factor in the win against Geelong and in the GF. And how much we owe Buchanon for the GF win. Not only did he in the clip attack the ball under enormous pressure in a grand final and kick the winning goal but he played a blinder. I can forgive him a lot in his recent drop off in form and it would be decent if people tempered the calls for his dumping with at least an acknowledgement of what he did on that day. And finally the Bevanator (another unsung hero of the 05 finals campaign) lays a ferocious tackle on the recovering victim with medicinal problems at 13 seconds if i'm not mistaken. A little high but he nailed him. Worth a look just for that. Thanks.

Blah blah blah........

So we could of won 05 without Davis but not without Ball and Buchanan.... right... gotcha...

[Bloody Hell]

Footy is about opinions. I have had a look at the clip and its worse than my hazy memory here at the nursing home. Davo actually ran away from the ball and the goals. Now he had two options (your suggestion that he ran a decoy is inventive). One was to shepherd which he didn't do and the other was to move into the pack. He did neither and as I said thank christ for Buchanon. The point i am making is that our recollections are coloured by bias and when things occur in the game. Three other points - the tape shows just how much we owed Ball for the premiership. His ruck work in the finals series particularly on the forward was a big factor in the win against Geelong and in the GF. And how much we owe Buchanon for the GF win. Not only did he in the clip attack the ball under enormous pressure in a grand final and kick the winning goal but he played a blinder. I can forgive him a lot in his recent drop off in form and it would be decent if people tempered the calls for his dumping with at least an acknowledgement of what he did on that day. And finally the Bevanator (another unsung hero of the 05 finals campaign) lays a ferocious tackle on the recovering victim with medicinal problems at 13 seconds if i'm not mistaken. A little high but he nailed him. Worth a look just for that. Thanks.

The thing I take from that clip is how heavily Davo is featured, yet little Bevan (as you point out his only contribution to the clip is giving away a free). I am reminded of Leigh Matthews great words as Bevo accepted his premiership Medal - "Did he deserve it?"

[AnnieH]

And how much we owe Buchanon for the GF win.

Grand final credits have all run out.

Darl, I'm sure we voted and the majority said that we owed Leo Barry for the GF win.

Apparently he was running decoys on that afternoon.

Decoys???? WTF????
Playing "decoy" IMO means "not getting in there and trying to do something with the ball".

Is that what you mean?