Sydney Swans - The big picture

[GongSwan]

In 4-5 years this group will be hitting thier prime (all will be in the 25-28 age group)...
Ried, McGlyn, Hannebury, Jack, Kennedy, TDL, Johnson, Johnston, Reid, Rohan , Smith,Moore, Bird, Mumford
These will be in the veteran stage of their career to provide leadershipa and structure: LRT, Malceski, Grundy
so in 4-5 years, we will have a gun team... but in the mean time, they are getting better with each game...

This makes the most sense to me on this thread. The only other thing I agree with is that we will need another Goodes and a power forward. While Reid will make a CHF, he may not be the goal kicker we will need. Maybe LJ will develop that way, but I see him more as a third tall, leaving room in the goal square for a big marking forward

[msb]

Sorry MSB but the Cats did bottom out & Thompson nearly got the sack. T the bottom eight & low eight for one of those. Thompson was building a team & getting rid of all the deadwood that had accumulated at Geelong. He was also trying to change the culture at the Cats. The culture was if you play for the Cats you are a star, I've seen players who never came near winning a premiership being treated like gods down there. We don't have that problem here but we do have a Sydney attitude problem, if you are a loser here no-one likes you. But in saying that I think it would have done us good to have a couple of years at the bottom like the Lions, Cats, Pies, Saints (wasted talent bad coach before Lyon), Blues (again not the best coach), Eagles, Freo. In saying that we have been very smart in the draft in swapping players who didn't fit our future & one who wanted to go (Jolly) for high (1st & 2nd) draft picks over the last 3 to 4 years. Thank Roosie for that as he looked to the future & used the Sheedy method of getting high draft picks, wave a choice bit of meat (over 25) under the noses of other clubs then bargain.

Depends how you define bottoming out...considering geelong havent finished below
12th position in the last 11 years I dont really class that as bottoming out. We finished 12th in 09 and that certainly was not through bottoming out.

[cowcar]

This makes the most sense to me on this thread. The only other thing I agree with is that we will need another Goodes and a power forward. While Reid will make a CHF, he may not be the goal kicker we will need. Maybe LJ will develop that way, but I see him more as a third tall, leaving room in the goal square for a big marking forward

agreed..(and thanks).. we may need a potential big target.. and i think we all hope that White isnt a write off.. but failing that, there are always trades and recruiting to come. however, in that group the core of the team is forming (with Jack being the most likely to be captain). I also forgot in the seniors list, Mcviegh will be around still..
so in that frame, we will have a great team. Lets hope we can keep them in the team and injury free..

[GoSouth33]

Look, we had a very good win tonight against the Lions and some of our younger players shone. Hard to see that we don't have future with those players.

[bondy]

Without disrespecting the OP, i think the concept of 'bottoming out' is a theoretical exercise that doesn't always work in reality. I think the most important aspect in any club is culture, something we have in spades. For whatever reason (astute recruiting, great induction) we seem to be able to late round draft picks and turn them into quality footballers (AJ comes to mind).

Whether it's for financial reasons in our market or something else, I'm glad that we remain competitive whilst focusing (lately) on youth. That we have such a young list playing with the enviable Swans ethos is indeed exciting.

[BRISWAN]

People here are downgrading our culture - which is the envy
Of most clubs and the real reason we don't bottom out ( or tank)!!!!
This is what I love and am most proud about this club.
When you put on the red and white and run out - you carry
the Bloods tradition with you.
We lost this for a few years and have alot to thank Roosey for
...... over and above the flag and finals.
I'd always prefer a champion team over a team of champions !!

[Bas]

I'd always prefer a champion team over a team of champions !!

Everyone forgets how ordinary both Geelong and Collingwood were before things clicked for them.

Some people just enjoy a good whinge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn it's cold this morning. Where's my Swans snuggly?? (Swans snuggly = beautiful, attractive, intelligent and totally unconditional with her love and support. I just haven't found her yet!!!!!!!!!!! Now I'm whinging

[erica]

Everyone forgets how ordinary both Geelong and Collingwood were before things clicked for them.

Some people just enjoy a good whinge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn it's cold this morning. Where's my Swans snuggly?? (Swans snuggly = beautiful, attractive, intelligent and totally unconditional with her love and support. I just haven't found her yet!!!!!!!!!!! Now I'm whinging

Maybe we could arrange for Cyggy to visit you Bas for a big hug?

[Bas]

Maybe we could arrange for Cyggy to visit you Bas for a big hug?

Very funny, I'll pay that one.

Another reason to get to the next Swans game early and hang out on the fence!

Except I'm in Melbourne next week with the kids for the King Tooty exhibition. However, Friday and Saturday night footy here we come.

[Big Al]

Very funny, I'll pay that one.

Another reason to get to the next Swans game early and hang out on the fence!

Except I'm in Melbourne next week with the kids for the King Tooty exhibition. However, Friday and Saturday night footy here we come.

I'm always up for a hug from a big bird.

[ScottH]

People here are downgrading our culture - which is the envy
Of most clubs and the real reason we don't bottom out ( or tank)!!!!
This is what I love and am most proud about this club.
When you put on the red and white and run out - you carry
the Bloods tradition with you.
We lost this for a few years and have alot to thank Roosey for
...... over and above the flag and finals.
I'd always prefer a champion team over a team of champions !!

Just on the culture thing. Yesterday afternoon it waqs reported how Voss wanted to emulate the Bloods Ethos, as he loved the way they played their game.
I guess he hasn't implemented it yet up there.

[dimelb]

People here are downgrading our culture - which is the envy
Of most clubs and the real reason we don't bottom out ( or tank)!!!!
This is what I love and am most proud about this club.
When you put on the red and white and run out - you carry
the Bloods tradition with you.
We lost this for a few years and have alot to thank Roosey for
...... over and above the flag and finals.
I'd always prefer a champion team over a team of champions !!

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