i dont know what to think.........
Im just gunna light a dart.......suck down a beer.......give the kids coke and Maccas for dinner then head down to the RSL to slap the pokies and bet on a few races
ill let you know what pops up
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I just didn't like him being associated with the club because of his smarmy wankerish face. He looked like a total sleeze.
Sorry, I don't have a logical reason for someone to critique.
He does give off a very strong ' flog ' vibe
It's nice some on here can form well reasoned arguments for and against.
I'll just say that personally I found him scummy. Scummy on my facebook, in my emails and in ads.
The difference is gambling on footy has the potential to ruin our sport. Cars, obesity, coke and insurance don't. I'm really glad we've chosen not to be connected to a betting agency.
Have to disagree with you there. Alcohol has a pretty major effect on the sport and society as a whole. If we're going to have some sort of moral code by which the club will choose its partners, it should be applied fairly to all sponsors. You would expect that the club would attempt to identify partners with whom they would share common values, otherwise the relationship will be pretty shallow and unmaintainable. Coke has a pretty dubious health record, and as a company probably has done more damage to the environment and to human society than Tom Waterhouse alone (If we were going to use Tom Waterhouse to represent all gambling problems, it'd be akin to saying that Coke represented all problems associated with large beverage producers AND sugar's effect on the modern human).
To be honest, I don't like gambling much either because of personal experiences with my parents, but I have learnt to shut it out at the game (like the other things I may not like at the game). I too dislike the association with pies which are sooo bad for you (and I'm pretty sure the players aren't exactly chowing them down in the quarter-time breaks) but once again I just shut it out. There are two alcohol-related sponsors, two financial institutions, The Telegraph!!! At least Tom Waterhouse's logo never made it onto the guernsey :|
Well if it came to having a choice between Waterhouse and say the Hillsong Church - young Tom would get my vote. At the end of the day sport is a business and it needs sponsors - now if the sponsors were "Axe Murderes are us" then you'd have something to complain about. But this "we are better than the others and we only want nice wholesome sponsors"and taking moral high ground is but much.
As Wardy points out, there are potential sponsors whose industries may be considered by some people to be unsuitable. It will be different things for different people - axe-murderers and Hillsong for Wardy, any gambling concern for some people, Tom Waterhouse specifically for others, maybe Collingwood FC for Big Al.
Gambling (in particular) has been kept at arms-length from many professional sports for what I would think are obvious reasons - The SMH has a quote from an NFL commissioner today: ?We want to protect our game and make sure that the people believe that what they see is not influenced by anything from the outside. Gambling is at the heart of that.?
Read a tiny bit more.
For the Swans, even if the management don't care about it, the dollars cut both ways - a number of long standing members have written to them saying that they will discontinue their membership if Waterhouse's sponsorship continues. I don't know how many people have done that in total - maybe only a handful. If it was getting on for three or four hundred then it should be a genuine monetary concern. Whilst they have got great membership numbers this year, rusted-on members are worth a lot.
Andy
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