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  1. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor View Post
    His nickname should clearly be Axl.
    I hear it shortened to "ax" - I like it.
    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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    as long as you dont change the name of the SCG to "the snakepit"
    "be tough, only when it gets tough"


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    In this draft we saw the Academy yielding 4 selections (in bold) - while Heeney was always going to be a high pick and perform accordingly, none of the others set the world on fire. But perhaps their selection raised encouraged other academy kid to strive harder. We took
    #18 Isaac Heeney
    #37 James Rose
    #38 Jack Hiscox
    #70 Abaina Davis
    Then
    #17 Sean McLaren
    #35 Nic Newman
    #52 Lewis Melican
    #76 Jordan Foote
    There were a moderate number of alternatives available, rather than Rose and/or Hiscox we could have taken Bailey Dale, Caleb Daniel, Mitch McGovern or Ed Langdon who all went after than in the main draft. Or we could have taken Kane Lambert, Jason Castagna, Jayden Short, Adam Saad or Reilly O'Brien, who all had to wait for the Rookie draft.

    Saad was probably the player we could most have used, as he provides tremendous run out of defence, but subsequent history suggests he may have been a serious flight risk.
    Reilly O’Brien could have been useful but at the time we two promising young rucks in Nankervis and Naismith.
    Caleb Daniel’s wonderfully accurate disposal would have fitted in too, but perhaps we might have been concerned at his lack of height.
    And Ed Langdon would have provided some of the run we are still trying to stockpile.

    So yes, there were other picks we could have taken, but did we leave anyone truly transformative on the table? I don’t think so, so maybe a B (or C if you’re marking hard)
    Loose translation from the Latin is - I am tall, so I hit out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck'n'Roll View Post
    There were a moderate number of alternatives available, rather than Rose and/or Hiscox we could have taken Bailey Dale, Caleb Daniel, Mitch McGovern or Ed Langdon who all went after than in the main draft. Or we could have taken Kane Lambert, Jason Castagna, Jayden Short, Adam Saad or Reilly O'Brien, who all had to wait for the Rookie draft.
    Interestingly, we were linked to Bailey Dale by many draft experts. He was such skinny kid and didn't look anything like a footballer, but turned into quite a good one. Made the AA team as a HBF, a position we were looking to draft this year.

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    Yes, hardly a stellar draft for us saved by picking up Heeney for just number 18. With the rules in place now, he would most likely gone top 10 with us needing to match a bid from elsewhere. The rules were changed after this because the other clubs argued that we got him too cheap.

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    It's also interesting to look at the standout testng results

    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie.Gerald View Post
    2014 NAB AFL DRAFT COMBINE STANDOUT RESULTS

    3km time trial (minutes : seconds)
    Jack Hiscox 9:18
    Tom Lamb 9:45
    Alex Neal-Bullen 9:54
    Billy Stretch 9:57
    Nathan Drummond 9:59
    Josh Deluca-Cardillo 10:07
    Daniel McKenzie 10:07
    Connor Menadue 10:07
    Liam Duggan 10:11
    Jack Steele 10:11

    Hiscox breaks all-time endurance record

    Beep test/shuttle run (level)
    Caleb Daniel 16.1
    Jack Hiscox 16.1
    Nathan Drummond 15.9
    Tom Lamb 15.5
    Ed Langdon 15.3
    Jarrod Garlett 15.2
    Alex Neal-Bullen 15.2
    Jason Castagna 15.2
    Billy Stretch 15.1
    Jack Steele 15.1
    Jordan Cunico 14.12
    Christian Petracca 14.12

    Click here for full draft and combine news

    Kicking test (score out of 30)
    Nakia Cockatoo 29
    Daniel Howe 28
    Kyle Langford 28
    Toby McLean 27
    Michael Mattingly 27
    Nathan Drummond 27
    Dean Gore 27
    Brett Eddy 27
    Clem Smith 26
    Liam Duggan 26
    Brayden Maynard 26
    Jack Steele 26
    Ed Vickers-Willis 26
    Mitch McGovern 26

    How do the combine tests work and who are the record-holders?

    Clean hands test (score out of 30)
    Nathan Drummond 26
    Paddy Brophy 26
    Reece McKenzie 26
    Tyler Keitel 26
    Dougal Howard 26
    Michael Mattingly 25
    Brett Eddy 25
    Caleb Daniel 25
    Jake Johansen 25
    Jarrod Garlett 25
    Brydan Hodgson 25
    Marc Pittonet 25
    Liam Dawson 25
    Jack Cripps 25

    Goalkicking test (score out of 30)
    Dean Gore 30
    Keenan Ramsey 30
    Nathan Drummond 25
    Paddy Brophy 25
    Michael Mattingly 25
    Liam Dawson 25
    Cory Gregson 25
    Aidan Anderson 25
    Dougal Howard 24
    Jarrod Garlett 24
    Jack Cripps 24
    Bailey Dale 24
    Declan Hamilton 24

    20 metre sprint results (sec)
    Marvin Baynham 2.81
    Oleg Markov 2.87
    Jarrod Pickett 2.87
    Reece McKenzie 2.87
    Connor Menadue 2.88
    Nakia Cockatoo 2.90
    Ed Langdon 2.92
    Paddy Brophy 2.93
    Conor McKenna 2.93
    Nathan Drummond 2.93

    Agility results (sec)
    Clem Smith 8.09
    Daniel McKenzie 8.10
    Conor McKenna 8.12
    Jarrod Pickett 8.13
    Teia Miles 8.27
    Lukas Webb 8.28
    Josh McGuinness 8.33
    Billy Stretch 8.33
    Kyle Langford 8.36
    Jack Lonie 8.37

    Repeat sprint results (sec)
    Nakia Cockatoo 23.93
    Nathan Drummond 23.95
    Daniel Nielson 23.99
    Daniel McKenzie 24.02
    Ed Langdon 24.06
    Oleg Markov 24.14
    Connor Menadue 24.14
    Conor McKenna 24.16
    Matthew Goodyear 24.49
    Jack Hiscox 24.36

    Standing vertical jump (cm)
    Marvin Baynham 88
    Jarrod Garlett 76
    Nathan Drummond 76
    Christian Petracca 74
    Nakia Cockatoo 73
    James Rose 73
    Dean Gore 72
    Nicholas Coughlan 72
    Evan Bruinsma 72
    Reece McKenzie 72
    Tom Read 72

    Running vertical jump (cm)
    Evan Bruinsma 97
    Marvin Baynham 95
    Daniel McKenzie 94
    Billy Gowers 93
    Nathan Drummond 90
    Nakia Cockatoo 89
    Matthew Uebergang 87
    Mitch McGovern 87
    James Rose 87
    Matthew Hammelmann 87
    So many standouts that didn't make it.
    Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 15th December 2021 at 10:42 AM.
    Loose translation from the Latin is - I am tall, so I hit out.

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    Man, Richmond totally nailed that rookie draft. As good as it gets.
    'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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    Quote Originally Posted by i'm-uninformed2 View Post
    Man, Richmond totally nailed that rookie draft. As good as it gets.
    Yep it was right up there with the Swans 2012 haul

    Numerically this draft has so far yeilded 233 games, or 29 games per selection.One of the poorer ROI thus, but it may continue to improve a bit with Heeney and the Pelican still on the list.
    Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 16th December 2021 at 05:19 PM.
    Loose translation from the Latin is - I am tall, so I hit out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck'n'Roll View Post
    In this draft we saw the Academy yielding 4 selections (in bold) - while Heeney was always going to be a high pick and perform accordingly, none of the others set the world on fire. But perhaps their selection raised encouraged other academy kid to strive harder. We took
    #18 Isaac Heeney
    #37 James Rose
    #38 Jack Hiscox
    #70 Abaina Davis
    Then
    #17 Sean McLaren
    #35 Nic Newman
    #52 Lewis Melican
    #76 Jordan Foote
    There were a moderate number of alternatives available, rather than Rose and/or Hiscox we could have taken Bailey Dale, Caleb Daniel, Mitch McGovern or Ed Langdon who all went after than in the main draft. Or we could have taken Kane Lambert, Jason Castagna, Jayden Short, Adam Saad or Reilly O'Brien, who all had to wait for the Rookie draft.

    Saad was probably the player we could most have used, as he provides tremendous run out of defence, but subsequent history suggests he may have been a serious flight risk.
    Reilly O’Brien could have been useful but at the time we two promising young rucks in Nankervis and Naismith.
    Caleb Daniel’s wonderfully accurate disposal would have fitted in too, but perhaps we might have been concerned at his lack of height.
    And Ed Langdon would have provided some of the run we are still trying to stockpile.

    So yes, there were other picks we could have taken, but did we leave anyone truly transformative on the table? I don’t think so, so maybe a B (or C if you’re marking hard)
    Good post RnR. Thanks for keeping the conversation happening.

    I would give us a C for the ND and a B+ for the rookie draft (although that could improve if Melican ever really gets his act together).

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    I would say a C for the ND as well.

    We got Heeney but he was from the academy.

    Looking at pick 37, 38 and 70…. nothing to even remotely celebrate.

    Take away Heeney’s games and what is the ROI???

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