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    What a circus.
    We had one, Barry Hall, nice bloke, short fuse.
    10 matches.
    Toby’s act last week, inconclusive, should be playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieH View Post
    Barry?
    Are you there?
    Where are you Barry?
    Baaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrryyyyyyyy.
    Coooooooo-eeeeeeeeeeeee.

    BWA HA HA HA HA
    I bloody-well told you that high contact is against the rules, especially when you do it deliberately.
    See ya next Tuesday.
    I think Barry's point is that the tribunal is so inconsistent they may as well call it a day. High contact?
    is it really against the rules? Depends on which day of the week it is. Ablett Jnr would probably say no,
    and the MRP agreed with him... 3 times.

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    Couldn't have happened to a nicer team. And Whitfield out to boot.
    Poor loves.
    Go Pies.

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    The Tribunal process is so opaque now.

    When they brought in the points and gradings, it made the system easy to understand. Everyone could understand what it meant to have 93.75 points on a player's record for 12 months or how penalties for bad records applied.

    Now? That's gone and with it the consistency. A player like Greene could go up 18 times in eight years and get off with fine after fine. How does that even work?
    "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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    There is of course the 2005 premiership which we wouldn't have if the tribunal hadn't given another repeat offender (Bazza) a
    free pass for belting Maguire in the prelim...
    I've been around long enough to remember the Swans chartering a flight of QCs down to Melbourne to explain the unfortunate mix up
    between Andrew Dunkley's fingers and James Hird's face in the 96 Prelim, and the photos of Hird's mug wearing his Brownlow
    that week.
    I keep saying. This high horse thing. It's pretty slippery up there.
    It's nothing to do with the moral high ground. It's a simple matter of right and wrong. It was wrong that Barry Hall got off in 2005, but I'm bloody glad he did because we won the flag. Yes, that's inconsistent. As Oscar Wilde once said, consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative.

    It was wrong that Toby Greene got off after the Bontempelli incident. It was right that his appeal failed. I'm glad about that because Toby is a dirty player, and GWS are a manufactured team without a soul, and I don't like them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder Shaker View Post
    The Tribunal process is so opaque now.

    When they brought in the points and gradings, it made the system easy to understand. Everyone could understand what it meant to have 93.75 points on a player's record for 12 months or how penalties for bad records applied.

    Now? That's gone and with it the consistency. A player like Greene could go up 18 times in eight years and get off with fine after fine. How does that even work?
    Absolutely right, I see it the same way. There has always been inconsistency, but it is now literally impossible to predict. But this time they got it right.

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    Princess Toby finally got a suspension. I thought he would get off. He should have been suspended for his attack on Bont and his actions against Neale was much less severe. It just shows the stupidity of the tribunal system. But princess Toby isn't the first to exploit the situation.

    Ablett, Rance, Cotchin

    Mick Malthouse was spot on earlier today on the radio when he said the system was 'Club Centric' and 'player centric'.

    For the games..

    I don't like Richmond but I can't see them being beaten by Geelong.
    GWS v Magpies - I would like GWS to win but can't see it happening losing both Princess Toby and Whitfield.

    The AFL will support GWS to a point (the Bont incident) but the old boys club wants an all Melbourne GF. Collingwood vs Richmond is very good for business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandrevan View Post

    The AFL will support GWS to a point (the Bont incident) but the old boys club wants an all Melbourne GF. Collingwood vs Richmond is very good for business.
    So they get rid of a real threat to Collingwood (Brisbane) by allowing Greene to play against the Lions.....we can't have an 'interstate fairytale'.

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    I'm at the game tonight. Surrounded by ferals!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTigers View Post
    There is of course the 2005 premiership which we wouldn't have if the tribunal hadn't given another repeat offender (Bazza) a
    free pass for belting Maguire in the prelim...

    I've been around long enough to remember the Swans chartering a flight of QCs down to Melbourne to explain the unfortunate mix up
    between Andrew Dunkley's fingers and James Hird's face in the 96 Prelim
    , and the photos of Hird's mug wearing his Brownlow
    that week.
    I keep saying. This high horse thing. It's pretty slippery up there.
    You may've been around too long, rather than long enough, because your memory has failed you on a couple of vital facts in these scenarios. It's bad enough copping this crap from other supporters, let alone Swans fans themselves getting it wrong.

    First, Barry Hall was NOT given a free pass. He was NOT cleared. He WAS found guilty. He was given a week. Under the rules at the time - which applied to everyone - he got a week's discount because of the length of time he'd been "clean" (hard to believe given what happened 2006 onwards but for the previous 4 years he had been a model citizen). So comparisons of 2005 Baz to Toby Greene are way, way off.

    Second, Dunkley wasn't even CITED until the Wednesday of Grand Final week! We were in effect denied any of the usual ability to prepare a defence and appeal in a timely fashion, plus having all those processes going on would have meant we'd have been unsettled right up to game day. It was mindbogglingly incompetent mismanagement by the AFL and they absolutely deserved to be taken to court. The little grub Greene had effectively already had one of his appeals heard 24 hours before Dunkley was even cited. Again, a totally different situation.

    I know there is a lot of revisionist history about us now, largely sponsored by that fat multi-chinned @@@@@, but no need to add misinformed weight to his David Irving efforts.
    My opinion is objective truth in its purest form

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    Good end to the quarter by the cats. It's kept the Richmond supporters around me quiet for now. Hopefully the cats can keep it up.

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    Pretty high quality game played at speed and enjoyable to watch.
    Meyers is having a great game and has some confidence for a first year player. We have some work to do in the offseason to catch up to skill level and speed that the top teams are capable of. But I still feel confident we are headed in the right direction.

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    The pressure by Geelong as well as the perceived pressure is causing Richmond to turn the ball over. I can't remember the last time their skills were so bad...especially Dusty.

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