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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBloods View Post

    Dont see an obvious spot for Wicks, Rowbottom, Bell or Hayward but good if they can push for spots in the VFL and keep the pressure on the senior team. This has been a weakness of ours for years now , too many players not good enough getting games because theres no one better than them.
    Hilarious for its predictability. Now you've gone as far as insinuating Rowbottom is 'not good enough' to play AFL football. Utterly @@@@ing laughable - you've dug yourself such a deep hole you just have to keep on with the nonsene until its shown you truly are wearing no clothes.

    Seeing your incessant fawning over Warner's good pre-season and how that has put him as a lock for Rd 1, what exactly would Wicks have had to have done in pre-season to impress enough to deserve a spot in round 1? Kick 7, have 31 possessions and make 19 tackles....

    If you are going to suggest Warner will keep Rowbottom out of the team (someone well established as part of the best 22 last year) on the basis of a couple of good pre-season performances, then surely Wicks has claims over several others based on what was seen in pre-season as well.

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    I would think the across half forward and inside mid? Those two had a great game against GWS. I just don't get it. Were we watching different games?
    Nope, we were just watching it without blinkers and an utter desperation to repeat something over and over and over in a hope of being able to say 'told you so' at some pre-defined point in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBloods View Post
    Dont see an obvious spot for Wicks, Rowbottom,
    Opens up a couple of spots for Tom Derickx and Abe Davis.

    Another premiership must be just around the corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejavoodoo44 View Post
    In the captain's survey on the AFL site, we were one of only three teams, that none of the other captains thought would make the finals. The other two were Adelaide and North. Which I suppose is a dampener on expectations. Though I remain optimistic, that if we have a good run with injuries, we can play an attractive style of footy and make the eight.
    Pre-season predictions don't mean anything. See the predictions for the 2003 season for an example (many tipped Sydney for the spoon, we ended up in a Preliminary Final).

    Nearly half of the captains have tipped Collingwood to make the finals (8 out of 17). That is quite optimistic, considering how badly Collingwood butchered their list management last year. IMO Collingwood are more likely to finish bottom four than top eight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcs View Post
    Hilarious for its predictability. Now you've gone as far as insinuating Rowbottom is 'not good enough' to play AFL football. Utterly @@@@ing laughable - you've dug yourself such a deep hole you just have to keep on with the nonsene until its shown you truly are wearing no clothes.

    Seeing your incessant fawning over Warner's good pre-season and how that has put him as a lock for Rd 1, what exactly would Wicks have had to have done in pre-season to impress enough to deserve a spot in round 1? Kick 7, have 31 possessions and make 19 tackles....

    If you are going to suggest Warner will keep Rowbottom out of the team (someone well established as part of the best 22 last year) on the basis of a couple of good pre-season performances, then surely Wicks has claims over several others based on what was seen in pre-season as well.

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    Nope, we were just watching it without blinkers and an utter desperation to repeat something over and over and over in a hope of being able to say 'told you so' at some pre-defined point in the future.
    Just my OPINION. I dont see a place for Rowbottom right now. Who is he ahead of in the midfield ? Certainly not Joey, Parker or Mills. Hewett's the tagger. We need Blakey and Florents leg speed. Seventh place goes to .. ?? Unless you are planning on going with an EIGHT man midfield , theres only one spot in the side left for an inside mid. Two young mids RB and Warner. I dont give a rats ass what Rowbottom did last year. We are now in March 2021. Warner looks the form mid of the two atm. Rowbottom had a good game on Sunday but as what ? Barely touched it at the stoppages, failed to win it out of the centre, only made an impact in the forward 50 and collecting loose ball in general play. Maybe he gets a half forward spot, but whose he dislodging from the forward group ?? I'd like to see him in the VFL work on his midfield craft. Reading taps, winning clearances and most of all accumulating. these are things he needs to work on. Warner looked better in these areas which you need to be good in if you are to be an inside midfielder. With your response you make it seem like it is an outrageous assertion that a 3rd year player has things to work on and with competition for spots tightening it is best that these things are worked on in the VFL.

    Wicks behind Papley and Gulden, doesnt have their class. Liked what I saw of young Errol, that snap around the body to hit Papley on the chest was textbook Errol. Saw him do that a lot when he played for the ES bulldogs. Cant see a world where Wicks is picked over Gulden.

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    Hope we get as many games as possible into McDonald, Campbell and Gulden. All ooze quality and should be integral to our success over the next 10+ years.

    I'd expect both Gulden and Campbell to debut round 1 and they should play for the majority of the season. Maybe McDonald will be held back a week or two but his very presence did so much to sort out our structure on the weekend. He too should play as many matches as possible this year.

    Most here also see Rowbottom as an exciting young talent deservedly becoming an integral part of the team. To the one poster repeating ad nauseum their dislike for him - we get it. You're welcome to expressing an opinion but banging on about it on here doesn't do anything to boost the level of discourse on RWO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludwig View Post
    Opens up a couple of spots for Tom Derickx and Abe Davis.

    Another premiership must be just around the corner.
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    Maybe Rowy cheated on his daughter or something. Seems to be an odd grudge there.

    If you’re asking who’s ahead in the midfield out of JPK, Parker, Mills and Rowbottom then obviously the one to go is Mills as he’s a specialist HB general and Rowbottom is a more natural mid than Mills at this stage. At no point should all three of JPK, Parker and Mills be at the centre square together. That’s so one dimensional and teams will feed off the predictability.


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    Rowbottom is definitely in our best side and one of our best young players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono2707 View Post
    Hope we get as many games as possible into McDonald, Campbell and Gulden. All ooze quality and should be integral to our success over the next 10+ years.

    I'd expect both Gulden and Campbell to debut round 1 and they should play for the majority of the season. Maybe McDonald will be held back a week or two but his very presence did so much to sort out our structure on the weekend. He too should play as many matches as possible this year.

    Most here also see Rowbottom as an exciting young talent deservedly becoming an integral part of the team. To the one poster repeating ad nauseum their dislike for him - we get it. You're welcome to expressing an opinion but banging on about it on here doesn't do anything to boost the level of discourse on RWO.
    Did not “bang on” about it. Said he was one of a handful who i dont see a place for in our best team. Could’ve left it at that

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBloods View Post
    Did not “bang on” about it. Said he was one of a handful who i dont see a place for in our best team. Could’ve left it at that
    Thank God you are not on the Swans selection panel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder Shaker View Post
    Pre-season predictions don't mean anything. See the predictions for the 2003 season for an example (many tipped Sydney for the spoon, we ended up in a Preliminary Final).

    Nearly half of the captains have tipped Collingwood to make the finals (8 out of 17). That is quite optimistic, considering how badly Collingwood butchered their list management last year. IMO Collingwood are more likely to finish bottom four than top eight.
    Yes, the eight votes for Collingwood seemed strange to me. Maybe the captains marked them up because Eddie has quit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlyAkkuret View Post
    Maybe Rowy cheated on his daughter or something. Seems to be an odd grudge there.

    If you’re asking who’s ahead in the midfield out of JPK, Parker, Mills and Rowbottom then obviously the one to go is Mills as he’s a specialist HB general and Rowbottom is a more natural mid than Mills at this stage. At no point should all three of JPK, Parker and Mills be at the centre square together. That’s so one dimensional and teams will feed off the predictability.



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    After watching the trial with GWS I came away with the same opinion. As Parker showed he can be very dangerous up forward and Kennedy should also spend more time up forward.

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