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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangalore Swans View Post
    At 45,000 cases in NSW and 51,000 in Victoria, COVID infection is pretty much inevitable for any citizens who don’t put themselves into self imposed lockdown.

    I would love GoSwannies and other medical experts on Red and White to answer this question.

    “Is it preferable for the Swans squad to get COVID now and build up some COVID immunity for the upcoming season?

    Getting COVID during the season would lead to a lot of players missing games.

    “Are you less likely to get Omricom if you’ve already had it”

    I’m not an expert and would appreciate some expert analysis.
    Herd Immunity with a virus that mutates, like this or HIV, is a myth. Because it replicates and then changes the more cases you have the more chance there is of a new variant. So even though you'd vaccines, or natural immunity, protect you from say Alpha, you can still get Delta, Omicron or????.

    So​ even as fit and healthy as they are I would not advise them to hit the hotpots for a taste of herd Immunity. Mainly because as, J have just seen in Laos, even very healthy 20 yo boys with 2 AZ have died of Delta. We have had several cases recently and evidence is that while Omicron is not as nasty it is highly infectious and that could lead to the whole club being shut down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangalore Swans View Post
    At 45,000 cases in NSW and 51,000 in Victoria, COVID infection is pretty much inevitable for any citizens who don’t put themselves into self imposed lockdown.

    I would love GoSwannies and other medical experts on Red and White to answer this question.

    “Is it preferable for the Swans squad to get COVID now and build up some COVID immunity for the upcoming season?

    Getting COVID during the season would lead to a lot of players missing games.

    “Are you less likely to get Omricom if you’ve already had it”

    I’m not an expert and would appreciate some expert analysis.
    No offence to the RWO community, but I seriously doubt anyone on here is qualified to provide science around an infectious pandemic virus
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    Quote Originally Posted by i'm-uninformed2 View Post
    No offence to the RWO community, but I seriously doubt anyone on here is qualified to provide science around an infectious pandemic virus
    I am not qualified to provide the science. But I am qualified to provide the experience of living through an epidemic. The HIV Epidemic is something I know a lot about. From several different angles, an experience point of view, from an activist point of view and from a, professional point of view dealing with govt. I was in contact with Health Ministers, the Premier and other people in government during a time of where many people died. I respected people like Professor Dwyer because of their knowledge and sensible advice as epidemiologists. They would never let politicians control the narrative.

    If you look at the WHO protocols they are quite simple. You don't have to be a scientist to work it out.

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    I think the media department is still closed for holidays

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    Went down to Tramway oval Monday after 9am. They were already on the oval doing warmup.

    There were a few VFL players doing the full session. And probably about 10 listed players missing. I noticed 3 of 4 WA guys and both Irish guys were there. Amartey, Wicks and McLean were doing straight line running on the side. Everyone else seemed to be mostly involved in the session.

    - Split into 3 groups and rotated through 3 stations. 2 stations were picking up grounds balls and handballing. I think the 3rd station was an attacking side of 7 players moving the ball with short kicks past opposing players.

    - Quick drill with 4 players handballing past 3 opposing players.

    - 7 attacking players try to handball past 4 opposing players. Felt it was a similiar scenario to a defender picking up a ground ball and then staying calm and using the numbers to keep possession. Also a bit of a scenario where they would start the drill with a ground ball amongst a bunch of players to simulate inside mids handballing in a congested area.

    - Players set up on 4 points of a large square. And running and kicking to the opposite diagonal with multiple balls in motion.

    - 3 matches of 10 vs 10 on a reduced field where the team scores a point by marking the ball in a zone near the goal. (Not full contact. Coaches would whistle for a turnover if someone was wrapped up or there were loose possessions). The players currently not involved were practicing picking up a ground ball under pressure and trying to evade a tackler 1 vs 1. It was funny seeing the Warner boys end up on the same team in the 10v10 and link up a few times with handballs.

    - Same game except 12 vs 12 but keeping a 4/4/4 positional structure.

    - Same game except 14 attackers vs 12 opposing and now using the full field.

    - Running - 4 sets of 2/3 of the oval boundary. Then probably 10 sets of 100m straight running. Mostly in a bunch on the boundary runs. But guys you would expect like Fox, CoR, Ronke, Stephens and Cunningham were generally near the front.

    It seemed to be finishing up a bit after 11am.
    Last edited by SeanM; 10th January 2022 at 01:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanM View Post
    Went down to Tramway oval Monday after 9am. They were already on the oval doing warmup.

    There were a few VFL players doing the full session. And probably about 10 listed players missing. I noticed 3 of 4 WA guys and both Irish guys were there. Amartey, Wicks and McLean were doing straight line running on the side. Everyone else seemed to be mostly involved in the session.

    - Split into 3 groups and rotated through 3 stations. 2 stations were picking up grounds balls and handballing. I think the 3rd station was an attacking side of 7 players moving the ball with short kicks past opposing players.

    - Quick drill with 4 players handballing past 3 opposing players.

    - 7 attacking players try to handball past 4 opposing players. Felt it was a similiar scenario to a defender picking up a ground ball and then staying calm and using the numbers to keep possession. Also a bit of a scenario where they would start the drill with a ground ball amongst a bunch of players to simulate inside mids handballing in a congested area.

    - Players set up on 4 points of a large square. And running and kicking to the opposite diagonal with multiple balls in motion.

    - 3 matches of 10 vs 10 on a reduced field where the team scores a point by marking the ball in a zone near the goal. (Not full contact. Coaches would whistle for a turnover if someone was wrapped up or there were loose possessions). The players currently not involved were practicing picking up a ground ball under pressure and trying to evade a tackler 1 vs 1.

    - Same game except 12 vs 12 but keeping a 4/4/4 positional structure.

    - Same game except 14 attackers vs 12 opposing and now using the full field.

    - Running - 4 sets of 2/3 of the oval boundary. Then probably 10 sets of 100m straight running.

    It seemed to be finishing up a bit after 11am.
    Thanks Sean. Who was missing?

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    I may have missed them but I don't think I saw Papley, Rankin, Rowbottom, Naismith, Hickey, Ladhams, Sinclair, McDonald, P.McCartin, Sheather or Mills.

    I will keep an eye out for those players if I go on Wed or Friday.
    Last edited by SeanM; 10th January 2022 at 01:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanM View Post
    Went down to Tramway oval Monday after 9am. They were already on the oval doing warmup.

    There were a few VFL players doing the full session. And probably about 10 listed players missing. I noticed 3 of 4 WA guys and both Irish guys were there. Amartey, Wicks and McLean were doing straight line running on the side. Everyone else seemed to be mostly involved in the session.

    - Split into 3 groups and rotated through 3 stations. 2 stations were picking up grounds balls and handballing. I think the 3rd station was an attacking side of 7 players moving the ball with short kicks past opposing players.

    - Quick drill with 4 players handballing past 3 opposing players.

    - 7 attacking players try to handball past 4 opposing players. Felt it was a similiar scenario to a defender picking up a ground ball and then staying calm and using the numbers to keep possession. Also a bit of a scenario where they would start the drill with a ground ball amongst a bunch of players to simulate inside mids handballing in a congested area.

    - Players set up on 4 points of a large square. And running and kicking to the opposite diagonal with multiple balls in motion.

    - 3 matches of 10 vs 10 on a reduced field where the team scores a point by marking the ball in a zone near the goal. (Not full contact. Coaches would whistle for a turnover if someone was wrapped up or there were loose possessions). The players currently not involved were practicing picking up a ground ball under pressure and trying to evade a tackler 1 vs 1. It was funny seeing the Warner boys end up on the same team in the 10v10 and link up a few times with handballs.

    - Same game except 12 vs 12 but keeping a 4/4/4 positional structure.

    - Same game except 14 attackers vs 12 opposing and now using the full field.

    - Running - 4 sets of 2/3 of the oval boundary. Then probably 10 sets of 100m straight running.

    It seemed to be finishing up a bit after 11am.
    Thanks Sean,

    here are some tweets of the session:

    https://twitter.com/sydneyswans/status/1480319695282528256?s=20

    Sydney Swans on Twitter: "Who says fitness in Summer isn’t fun? ������… "

    Sydney Swans on Twitter: "Kicking off 2022 with our new Swan. #Bloods… "

    Cheers
    Last edited by Scottee; 10th January 2022 at 01:24 PM. Reason: Not properly linked
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanM View Post
    Went down to Tramway oval Monday after 9am. They were already on the oval doing warmup.

    There were a few VFL players doing the full session. And probably about 10 listed players missing. I noticed 3 of 4 WA guys and both Irish guys were there. Amartey, Wicks and McLean were doing straight line running on the side. Everyone else seemed to be mostly involved in the session.

    - Split into 3 groups and rotated through 3 stations. 2 stations were picking up grounds balls and handballing. I think the 3rd station was an attacking side of 7 players moving the ball with short kicks past opposing players.

    - Quick drill with 4 players handballing past 3 opposing players.

    - 7 attacking players try to handball past 4 opposing players. Felt it was a similiar scenario to a defender picking up a ground ball and then staying calm and using the numbers to keep possession. Also a bit of a scenario where they would start the drill with a ground ball amongst a bunch of players to simulate inside mids handballing in a congested area.

    - Players set up on 4 points of a large square. And running and kicking to the opposite diagonal with multiple balls in motion.

    - 3 matches of 10 vs 10 on a reduced field where the team scores a point by marking the ball in a zone near the goal. (Not full contact. Coaches would whistle for a turnover if someone was wrapped up or there were loose possessions). The players currently not involved were practicing picking up a ground ball under pressure and trying to evade a tackler 1 vs 1. It was funny seeing the Warner boys end up on the same team in the 10v10 and link up a few times with handballs.

    - Same game except 12 vs 12 but keeping a 4/4/4 positional structure.

    - Same game except 14 attackers vs 12 opposing and now using the full field.

    - Running - 4 sets of 2/3 of the oval boundary. Then probably 10 sets of 100m straight running. Mostly in a bunch on the boundary runs. But guys you would expect like Fox, CoR, Ronke, Stephens and Cunningham were generally near the front.

    It seemed to be finishing up a bit after 11am.
    Great summary thanks - must have been nice and warm out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanM View Post
    I may have missed them but I don't think I saw Papley, Rankin, Rowbottom, Naismith, Hickey, Ladhams, Sinclair, McDonald, P.McCartin, Sheather or Mills.

    I will keep an eye out for those players if I go on Wed or Friday.
    Great training summary.

    Sad to see Rowbottom not able to fully participate.

    Rowbottom came in for some astute criticism on Red and White in 2021 and was defended quite emotionally by the majority of posters.

    Rowbottom supporters cited injury concerns as to why 2021 was a down year.

    If Rowbottom has another injury interrupted year then his backers on Red and White may start to lose some belief in him.

    Rowbottom really needs to be “crushing it” now.

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    Where did you see Rowbottom injured?

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