Rating Rowbottom as a 'C' is reasonable. Personally I'd say C+, and he was good at the weekend. I have no doubt to will be back in the 22 after his suspension. Which is where he belongs.
Ah there he is, right on cue. Amazing how you two are on at the same time, many times.
TB, you are lucky to have such a staunch defender.
In this instance, Bangongalore, you are right. Media outlets (Fox, a variety of newspaper outlets, AFL.com.au etc) do use a letter grading to assess players and teams. So I must retract my objection at TB’s use of the letter grade classification. Entirely appropriate and a very good point you make.
And there it is! The irritating decree. I just can’t shake the mental image of Danny Devito and Arnold Schwarzenegger in Twins as I read posts such as this.
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How about we wait until the FoxSports panelists actually rate the Swans?
NB: It's better to 'step in' with actual facts rather than 'opinion'.....you're getting into FoxNews territory doing that Banga.
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Excellent.....the challenge I mean.
Quite the long bow but well done for providing an out for your Master of course that was the context he was using.
And this comment is of course ok as well as it’s what you would regularly hear on Fox Footy
“he was doing reckless stupid things when playing poor footy”
Your sycophantic efforts to protect him at all costs are to be admired however he knows what he is doing when he slips in inflammatory comments like that and to expect no blowback is naive.
And your regular directives on how others should think and behave can be filed you know where.
The point of my comment to TB was that the grade of the footballer is irrelevant when discussing whether a player should be suspended for an incident. Is he insinuating that if Buddy Franklin made high contact with a player it would be okay because he's an A grader? It was a gratuitous attack on Rowbottom unrelated to his performance.
Maybe we should leave RWO to A and B grade posters only, and let the trash contribute elsewhere.
I get where you’re coming from barracuda, but don’t agree with the Bell (and to a lesser degree) the Wicks selections.
We played a poor Bombers outfit so no real conclusions should be reached from that game.
The real proof will come over the next 3 weeks, when we play strong teams, and if one or both get selected.
I hope they contribute enough to allow our other forwards to score. I just don’t think they are good enough, but happy to be proved wrong!
Wicks already proved himself last year as one of the league’s best defensive forwards based on some of the stats floating around, yet most here are still trying to judge him purely on his offensive numbers.
Yes he could be better in his goal kicking and he’s still improving in that regard but I think we have enough firepower in that forward line with Buddy Heeney and Papley who all on their day can kick big bags. To a lesser extent Hayward and the other talls whether it be Ladhams McDonald McLean Amartey or Reid can also contribute
What Wicks does in his role is underappreciated except where it counts which is the coaches and his teammates. Do you think Hawthorn would have been sniffing around him last year when he was out of contract if he was just a below average fringe player
I'm certainly guilty of being harsh on Wicks partly because of a few poor misses at goal and a tendency to be undisciplined at times. However, I do appreciate yours and Barracuda's posts and agree that the team is better with him in the 22 than out. He is also only 22 years old so has more development in him. I also see the effort that Bell makes but I just don't think he is as good overall. For example, Wicks had 20 pressure acts (3rd most for Swans behind Mills & Rowbottom) while Bell had 13 pressure acts.
To prove your point about Wicks being one of the best defensive forwards, can we look at the EFFECTIVE tackles, rather than just tackles where the defender manages a useful handball to a team mate, together with the frees awarded against the forward? To my mind Ugg, that would be a more accurate measure of the player’s contribution to his fellow forwards.
Agreed that coaches and team mates do appreciate the role. I will support this view as long as our forwards kick a winning score. When they don’t, I question the role of each and every forward.
If the Dawks were in for him, with due respect, it doesn’t mean much!
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