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    Quote Originally Posted by Maltopia View Post
    This is true, but what is really jarring is that we make a big deal of hosting the Pride game. Taking money from a country that oppresses LGBTQIA+ people and then hosting the Pride game is inconsistent and seems cynical. Do we really support LGBTQIA+ people or not? Sure take Qatar Airways money and it is offensive to some. But to take the money and then say we the Swans care about inclusivity regardless of gender identification seems like it isn't genuine.
    What's that expression? "There are only murderers in this room". Are QBE going to be a bunch of saints? Of course not, they are an insurance
    company FFS. A "crypto currency partner"? Wow, who won't the club take money from? Anyone? The Qatar/Pride game thing wasn't lost on us
    either, but we've flown Qatar a couple times because the fares were less than Qantas. The high horse.... it's hard to stay in the saddle.
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    You can’t be sincere about LGBTIQ+ rights and take money from Qatar Airlines. It’s one of the other.

    It was Brad Crouch Ollie was running away from. I was worried he was going to be tackled until I saw who was chasing him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markwebbos View Post
    You can’t be sincere about LGBTIQ+ rights and take money from Qatar Airlines. It’s one of the other.
    I think in the clubs case they would LIKE to be sincere about LGBTIQ+ rights and they ARE accepting sponsorship money from
    Qatar Airlines. As we all know, you can't have everything.
    Last edited by liz; 27th June 2022 at 04:33 PM. Reason: post split between two threads

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTigers View Post
    As we all know, you can't have everything.
    Where would you put it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloods05 View Post
    Where would you put it?
    With Millers Storage, our "Official Storage Partners" of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTigers View Post
    I think in the clubs case they would LIKE to be sincere about LGBTIQ+ rights and they ARE accepting sponsorship money from
    Qatar Airlines. As we all know, you can't have everything.


    On the sponsorship issue, the world becomes hard to navigate if you only do business with / interact with / socialise with people or organisations that share all your values. Where to draw the line is as much an individual (or organisational) choice as those underlying values are. It would be problematic (for me) if the Swans' sponsorship with Qatar Airlines was contingent on them espousing the Qatari government's values and thus not participating in the Pride Game, which is not the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liz View Post
    I wondered the same thing during the game. The noise did seem lower volume, at least over in the O'Reilly stand.

    On the sponsorship issue, the world becomes hard to navigate if you only do business with / interact with / socialise with people or organisations that share all your values. Where to draw the line is as much an individual (or organisational) choice as those underlying values are. It would be problematic (for me) if the Swans' sponsorship with Qatar Airlines was contingent on them espousing the Qatari government's values and thus not participating in the Pride Game, which is not the case.
    Yep, the further you take this stuff the more likely you are to end up in a room by yourself with only your keyboard to keep you
    company. Qatar Airlines operate in a crowded market and I guess they saw the club's demographic and AFL fans in general
    (as you can see their ads in the background on TV) as a group of people they could sell plane tickets to. I wouldn't fly with
    them now as I've become aware of what goes on in that place (ironically as a result of their sponsorship of the club) but we
    have in the past.

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    Way to hard to navigate and try to please/sympathise and empathise, best just see Sydney Swans for what they are, a footy club.

    Heaps easier making Coaching and selection calls

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    Forgive me for being naive, but what's the issue with a cryptocurrency sponsor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goal Sneak View Post
    Forgive me for being naive, but what's the issue with a cryptocurrency sponsor?
    It's a financial scam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liz View Post
    I wondered the same thing during the game. The noise did seem lower volume, at least over in the O'Reilly stand.

    On the sponsorship issue, the world becomes hard to navigate if you only do business with / interact with / socialise with people or organisations that share all your values. Where to draw the line is as much an individual (or organisational) choice as those underlying values are. It would be problematic (for me) if the Swans' sponsorship with Qatar Airlines was contingent on them espousing the Qatari government's values and thus not participating in the Pride Game, which is not the case.
    Hi Liz, the Mongrel Punt put things the other way around:

    “It was so nice to see all the colours around the SCG for Pride Round and all that stuff – QBE changed their logo. As did Volkswagen, and Origin Energy … Know who didn’t change their logo? Qatar Airways.”

    Sydney v St KIlda - HB's Loves and Hates - The Mongrel Punt

    How about I put it like this. If the Swans are sincere about Pride Round, shouldn’t all their sponsors be expected to take part?

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    The situation with the Swans and Qatar Airways is similar to that of Collingwood and Jordan De Goey. Should Collingwood employ a person who doesn't exhibit the club's professed values? Should the Swans have a sponsor that doesn't exhibit the club's professed values?

    What are the criteria for having an association with a football club?

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