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    Sitting on 10th place and not looking good as we have Collingwood in a fortnight. I hope they can at least put in competitive effort over the next 2 weeks.

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    Longmire looked forlorn in his press conference. It's only April and the season is already done. He detests the options he has available so much, he can barely bring himself around to mention their names. And if some magic pill doesn't emerge later this year, the bleeding could well spill into the next season and beyond. And just when things were looking so bright.

    The only thing that might work is for the same injury curse that has befallen the Swans will spread like Covid across the competition. It seems to be happening. Now we can measure which team is sickest rather than which team is the best.

    Can our players overcome the despondency that oozes from every pore of the head coach and play the game as if everything is just fine?

    Just when we thought the rebuild was over, it's back on again. Will we have a team that is a legitimate challenger that we can cheer on from round to round or will we be reduced to complaining about the umpiring?

    Two sick teams from Sydney will fight it out on Saturday in a game that will prove nothing for either, regardless of the result.

    So it goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludwig View Post
    Longmire looked forlorn in his press conference. It's only April and the season is already done. He detests the options he has available so much, he can barely bring himself around to mention their names. And if some magic pill doesn't emerge later this year, the bleeding could well spill into the next season and beyond. And just when things were looking so bright.
    And only a week earlier he was positively beaming with fatherlike pride after the Richmond win.

    Things are never as good (in football, maybe in life) as they may seem but nor are they never as bad.

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    And only a week earlier he was positively beaming with fatherlike pride after the Richmond win.

    Things are never as good (in football, maybe in life) as they may seem but nor are they never as bad.
    Spot on Liz- let’s stay positive as we can turn this around by better team selections and more consistency from our boys, which should be possible. Positives are that we should get Sammy and Amartey back in 6-8 weeks😊

    I should also mention lowering the eyes and forwards to lead and avoid bombing to them- which has been the dumbest thing in our current circumstances!

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    Quote Originally Posted by liz View Post

    Things are never as good (in football, maybe in life) as they may seem but nor are they never as bad.
    Indeed! The worse things look for September, the better they look for November.

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    Longmire looked forlorn in his press conference. It's only April and the season is already done. He detests the options he has available so much, he can barely bring himself around to mention their names. And if some magic pill doesn't emerge later this year, the bleeding could well spill into the next season and beyond. And just when things were looking so bright.

    The only thing that might work is for the same injury curse that has befallen the Swans will spread like Covid across the competition. It seems to be happening. Now we can measure which team is sickest rather than which team is the best.

    Can our players overcome the despondency that oozes from every pore of the head coach and play the game as if everything is just fine?

    Just when we thought the rebuild was over, it's back on again. Will we have a team that is a legitimate challenger that we can cheer on from round to round or will we be reduced to complaining about the umpiring?

    Two sick teams from Sydney will fight it out on Saturday in a game that will prove nothing for either, regardless of the result.

    So it goes.
    The issue is deeper than just "missing talls" its the midfield that is wanting we had Rampe and Tom and Amartey against Melbourne and we conceded 6 goals in the 1st followed by 7 in the 4th QTR.

    Unless the midfield turns it around we will continue to struggle Giants are more than capable of kicking a winning score this week if midfield slacks off again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H2F View Post
    The issue is deeper than just "missing talls" its the midfield that is wanting we had Rampe and Tom and Amartey against Melbourne and we conceded 6 goals in the 1st followed by 7 in the 4th QTR.

    Unless the midfield turns it around we will continue to struggle Giants are more than capable of kicking a winning score this week if midfield slacks off again.
    The midfield is so dependent on the defence to produce counterattack that when it's malfunctioning, the midfield is simply under too much pressure. We usually get a lot of drive from Blakey, Florent and Mills. When those players are desperately tying to plug holes in the defence, the opposition can focus on crushing our midfield.

    Our midfield was poor, but they were playing without the usual support they get from outside players. When we get beaten so badly, it's hard to analyze the game, because everything looks like crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludwig View Post
    The midfield is so dependent on the defence to produce counterattack that when it's malfunctioning, the midfield is simply under too much pressure. We usually get a lot of drive from Blakey, Florent and Mills. When those players are desperately tying to plug holes in the defence, the opposition can focus on crushing our midfield.

    Our midfield was poor, but they were playing without the usual support they get from outside players. When we get beaten so badly, it's hard to analyze the game, because everything looks like crap.
    In a game like that, players like Hayward, Cunningham and Papley should be coming down the ground more to help the midfield.

    Instead of playing an extra in defence from the midfield (Mills) we should have put an extra forward in the midfield to try and win the ball or at least congest the handball releases by their midfield.

    If we are not getting forward 50s there isn’t much use in us having a forward structure. Even if their opponent comes with our forward into the midfield that still helps by creating space in their forward 50 for Logan and McClean to run and mark if we do get the ball.

    Hayward for one is a good mark and runner and he could help in the midfield when the ball isn’t coming into the attacking 50. Plus he only needs to get one extra possession to increase his average output by 10%!

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    I should also mention lowering the eyes and forwards to lead and avoid bombing to them- which has been the dumbest thing in our current circumstances![/QUOTE]

    Absolutely right!

    I've yelled at the set too often along the lines "don't kick it - pass it!" We are SO much better when we are moving instead of waiting.
    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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    It would help if they just looked where they are kicking it.
    We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludwig View Post
    ... will we be reduced to complaining about the umpiring? .....
    Never fear, whatever else happens ‘we’ will continue to do that.

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    2013, 2015 and 2017 were all particularly hard years for injuries from memory? You need a lot to go right to make a GF. A bit early to write the season off but I agree there are always positives - I am looking forward to a fringe player nobody is expecting to make it to get a good run and become a lock in the best 22.

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