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    Good player for Gus Sheldrick to model himself on!

    Neale is a great illustration of how hard the best players work to develop their games. He came into the Freo side as an instant ball magnet but was often a case of quantity rather than quality. I remember a game we played against Freo many years back in which four midfielders each got over 40 possessions. I can’t remember exactly which two Swans it was (Hanners and one of Parker or JPK, I think) and the two Freo players were Mundy and Neale. Mundy was very good but I remember watching Neale and thinking it might be the worst 40 possession game ever. Lots of cheap handballs, useless short kicks backwards and hospital passes to team mates. (Swans won the game very comfortably.)

    But as he’s grown more experienced, everything he does has become purposeful. He can still find the ball at will but he uses it so intelligently. He doesn’t have an Errol- boot on him but he still finds targets in dangerous spots, and rarely pass his stats with cheapies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck'n'Roll View Post
    Nothing like an exceptionally forthright, definitive and humourless response to put an end to an innocent conversation starter.
    Conversations start better with intelligent statements, not dumb tough talk....and to make it clear, I'm not calling you dumb R&R.

    Whitten and/or Dyer on the other hand.....which was likely Kafka's Ghost's point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevoswan View Post
    Conversations start better with intelligent statements, not dumb tough talk....and to make it clear, I'm not calling you dumb R&R.

    Whitten and/or Dyer on the other hand.....which was likely Kafka's Ghost's point.
    The milksop medal comment was directed at Bobby Skilton by Ted Whitten Senior. Bobby was one of Ted's best mates and legend has it that he was responsible for the "Chimp" nickname. Whitten had an exceedingly dry Australian sense of humour, and never finished higher that 3rd in the medal, where as Bobby had just won his 3rd. Teddy was in fact highlighting Skiltons achievements in an "Little John" kind of way. "Putting @@@@" on a friend is not an uncommon form of humour in Australia. It was a joke, a "stitch up."

    Perhaps not knowing the background/context made it difficult for you two to get the humour. I've never tried to explain a joke before, and it seems odd to be explaining such a widely known anecdote, but I've done so now. It was not meant as a slur on Lockett, Kelly, Stynes or Goodes - the assumption that it was, and the speed of the reaction did surprise me.
    Loose translation from the Latin is - I am tall, so I hit out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck'n'Roll View Post
    The milksop medal comment was directed at Bobby Skilton by Ted Whitten Senior. Bobby was one of Ted's best mates and legend has it that he was responsible for the "Chimp" nickname. Whitten had an exceedingly dry Australian sense of humour, and never finished higher that 3rd in the medal, where as Bobby had just won his 3rd. Teddy was in fact highlighting Skiltons achievements in an "Little John" kind of way. "Putting @@@@" on a friend is not an uncommon form of humour in Australia. It was a joke, a "stitch up."

    Perhaps not knowing the background/context made it difficult for you two to get the humour. I've never tried to explain a joke before, and it seems odd to be explaining such a widely known anecdote, but I've done so now. It was not meant as a slur on Lockett, Kelly, Stynes or Goodes - the assumption that it was, and the speed of the reaction did surprise me.
    Thanks for clarifying. I’d never heard of it before, or that it was appreciated as a bit of a stir.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck'n'Roll View Post
    Was it Whitten or Jack Dyer that called the Brownloaw the milksops award?
    Both were thugs. Every week they went onto the ground to see who they could knock rotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nico View Post
    Both were thugs. Every week they went onto the ground to see who they could knock rotten.
    Not sure about Whitten as I didn’t see that much of him. Dyer on the other hand…….. wasn’t called Captain Blood for nothing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadrunner View Post
    Not sure about Whitten as I didn’t see that much of him. Dyer on the other hand…….. wasn’t called Captain Blood for nothing!
    Whitten was a dirty bugger. Incredibly good in his prime but always ready to slip in a sly one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck'n'Roll View Post
    The milksop medal comment was directed at Bobby Skilton by Ted Whitten Senior. Bobby was one of Ted's best mates and legend has it that he was responsible for the "Chimp" nickname. Whitten had an exceedingly dry Australian sense of humour, and never finished higher that 3rd in the medal, where as Bobby had just won his 3rd. Teddy was in fact highlighting Skiltons achievements in an "Little John" kind of way. "Putting @@@@" on a friend is not an uncommon form of humour in Australia. It was a joke, a "stitch up."

    Perhaps not knowing the background/context made it difficult for you two to get the humour. I've never tried to explain a joke before, and it seems odd to be explaining such a widely known anecdote, but I've done so now. It was not meant as a slur on Lockett, Kelly, Stynes or Goodes - the assumption that it was, and the speed of the reaction did surprise me.
    Thanks for that....it does make it clearer and certainly less 'offensive'.

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