Oh no we've lost 2 games.

***NMWBloods*** · 20th April 2005, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by Schneiderman
Its more tiring when after one loss the doomsayers pop out of the woodwork telling us the season is over (no not you, I know). And doubly disappointing when people who have seemed so reasonable in years past now take pot shots at anyone who responds with optimism (yeah this one is you).

If people want to be otpmistic, I think that's fine. However, I don't think this thread was simply a case of 'well I disagree with you guys I think we'll do well' it was full of unnecessary sarcarsm and smart arse comments. So, I will respond in kind. If you want to optimistic and simply disagree with the pessimists (realists

) then you are quite welcome to do so.

See now I see club membership as an opportunity to feel paet of a community. I reckon a few others agree with me. RWO is the place we should come to share our grief AND support. Whilst its good to share our analysis of failure, its also healthy to revel in the successes.... even if they are flukey. And IF any of the players read this forum, I'd like them to know that they have supporters too. Yes even when they fail.

Players get support and we do revel in success. We are also rightly harsh critics of poor performances and like to understand failures.

The Sydney players receive far less critical treatment than teams in Melbourne, so a few harsh words shouldn't hurt too much.

But what is "better" anyway? Will you really be pleased with a Premiership? Because success cant last forever, and from the top the only way is down.

Tell you what I'd like. I'd like to see us have a great season and win a premiership. I'd like that season to be so enjoyable that the DVD of it will be enjoyable each time I re-watch it, not just because we win but because we play good football. I'd like to win a premiership before too long so my dad can actually enjoy the feeling of the side he has followed for over 60 years finally obtaining success.

They do that then I'm happy we don't win another for a decade as long as we are competitive. Football is not the be all and end all, however I would like that taste of success just once.

I didn't say you shouldn't criticise, but a bit of balance is important. You should trust that I am really down when we lose, but without an hope that it CAN get better (and with people getting carried away with their efforts to drag the optimism down), the whole purpose of RWO (as a place where supporters can share their passion for the Swans) gets washed away. If I want to hear slagging I read BigFooty.

Yeah, BF is for slagging. I like RWO because when we win it's a chance to share the enjoyment and consider how we won. When we lose it's a chance to share the frustration and try to work out how we lost and consider where we are going.

All I said was enjoy it. Considering the Crows result, I feel even more vindicated, and its a game I will watch again and again to keep the faith alive.

The last quarter of that game is the only one I could consider watching again and I'm sorry but it's really not a game that I would look at for feeling optimistic. The SKilda game last year would be one for that of recent times.

**Diego** · 20th April 2005, 11:15 AM

Schneiderman - deluded little soul.

**Vivien** · 20th April 2005, 11:18 AM

We'll be OK. It's only round 4, after all. In 2003 we were 1-3 and a 10 goal last quarter against Melbourne turned our season around. Maybe history will repeat itself this Saturday. just have some faith.

**Mike_B** · 20th April 2005, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by Vivien
We'll be OK. It's only round 4, after all. In 2003 we were 1-3 and a 10 goal last quarter against Melbourne turned our season around. Maybe history will repeat itself this Saturday. just have some faith.

I was hoping the last quarter against Brisbane would do what the last quarter against Melbourne in 2003 did for our year that year. Doesn't look like it, but we can alwasy hope.

**Vivien** · 20th April 2005, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by Mike_B
I was hoping the last quarter against Brisbane would do what the last quarter against Melbourne in 2003 did for our year that year. Doesn't look like it, but we can alwasy hope.

Yeah, me too.

**Newbie** · 20th April 2005, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by swans_premiers
Oh no we've lost 2 games to the early starters for the year in Kangaroos and Adelaide...lets blood the kids our season is over!!! I can't even remember ANY team that made the top 4 after being 2-2 especially the SWANS..but i guess we're just middle table

It's the highs and lows of football we've been the 3rd best team over the last few years and with Port and Brisbane only getting older and losing players this will be a good year for us(who have we lost?), we've got some finals experience, we have match winners and we have depth. We'll beat melbourne next week and we'll all forget about today.

Obviously there is always hope. If not next week, it is the week after. And of course, if it is not this year, there is still next year. And in case we cant turn up next year, there is always the year after. This could go on and on. It has been going on for the last 70 years and I think 70 years is more than enough. It is now time to demand responsibility for each and every failure that we have.

Players turning up every second game would please some supporters but will not win any premiership. And that is the difference between a good footy culture versus a bad one.