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    Police can lay charges of "theft by finding", a wonderful way of penalising scumbags who steal and then later say they "found it .. errr .. in a gutter". Yeah, right. Outside the place it should have been rightfully returned.

    What possesses one to think that what they "found" is for sale to the highest bidder, completely escapes me. Yes, there are some things that are in the public interest - and some posters are arguing along those lines. But a player has the right to the laws of natural justice and procedural fairness, like anyone else.

    Seven have well and truly stepped over the line this time.
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    Embarrasingly petulant display by Leo Barry. Shame.

    There are plenty of legal ways to stop these sort of publications, and those have already been done, so there is no need for players to act like children now.

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    [QUOTE=Sanecow;329448]Uh, no. It's a fairly easy chain to follow that Australian tax dollars go to the AFL; AFL funds go to clubs; Club funds go to players. Public interest.


    ummm what tax dollars go to the afl???lots of tax PAYERS dollars, but no tax derived dollars..yr argument is , at best,weak. No public interest!

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    If you want to be a pedant, go ahead but the fact is that around a freaking third of my money goes to the Government before I get to spend a cent and then they take another @@@@ing bite when I spend what little is left. I'd be interested to hear where you think the money the government spends comes from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legs Akimbo View Post
    The action is being taken by players to punish Channel 7 for publishing details of (stolen) confidential player medical records. It has nothing to do with alleged or actual drug use.
    I can't believe the amount of fools going around who think otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legs Akimbo View Post
    Rampant drug use in the AFL is a serious issue for the whole community...
    Please explain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloody Hell View Post
    Please explain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanecow View Post
    Uh, no. It's a fairly easy chain to follow that Australian tax dollars go to the AFL; AFL funds go to clubs; Club funds go to players. Public interest.



    The Australian public is spending millions of dollars supporting AFL clubs. Not divulging that some of your club's players are on drugs is IMO "conduct that is misleading".

    This is the problem with the new corporate paradigm and it's partially educated apologists.

    Public money is being used to subsidize everything we already have, like football, Oil companies and defense companies, media companies ect ect

    When it suits the small minded moral majority (EG: you),
    and the mainstream media who cater to them, they squeal some premanufactured idiom such as: " Uh, no. It's a fairly easy chain to follow that Australian tax dollars go to the AFL; AFL funds go to clubs; Club funds go to players. Public interest"

    Then they/you, call for all kinds of witch hunts in the name of "public interest".

    But you are missing the point; by buying into the hysteria you have forgotten that it is less in the public interest to have a public expose' of an evil doer (in this case drug using) individuals, than it is to have public money going to things that society really needs such as public hospitals, public schools and affordable housing and affoardable entertainment like football shown on free to air TV.

    By joining in the moronic moral chorus, you allow the status quo to remain, whereby society blames a few small crimes and misdemeanors for the whole of societies problems, while the perpetrators of high crimes like your modern conservative government and their corporate masters get off scott free. They leave failed wars, failed coporate governance and a failed population in their wake.
    Meanwhile the "public money" is in the Swiss BANK !!!!

    But does any of this outrage anyone in the corporate media ???

    Yet if one high profile footballer tests positive to an illicit substance: WATCH OUT !!!

    Save your petty moralism for your next visit to America; it will be more welcome there.
    Last edited by general mac; 30th August 2007 at 08:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloody Hell View Post
    Please explain.
    Fair call, allow me to rephrase

    "Rampant drug use in the AFL WOULD be a serious issue..."

    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by general mac View Post
    massive amount of straw man nonsense
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nico View Post
    If a player was drug tested at a booze bus and was found to have used an illicit drug it would have been in the news instantly.

    Cousins running from the booze bus was on the news before he got home.
    Yeah, but he did go for a couple of cans afterward..... Needed a drink after all that running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barry View Post
    Embarrasingly petulant display by Leo Barry. Shame.

    There are plenty of legal ways to stop these sort of publications, and those have already been done, so there is no need for players to act like children now.
    Leo Barry is a member of union called the AFL Players Association (AFLPA). For better or for worse, that union has directed players not to talk to Seven Network Broadcasters. He is not say, on a John Howard directed WorkChoice Agreement, that permits him to follow his and his employers' merry lead, regardless of what may be in the ultimate best interests of all of the AFL players.

    The whole basis of union existence is derived upon one simply word: "solidarity". It is a concept that hasn't served workers in western democracies too badly in the past 150 years or so. It also has plently of relevance in relation to sportsman based unions such as the AFLPA. One may not agree with ALL the decisions made by the AFLPA in the past few years; the three strike drug policy being a notable example. However, I can assure you that the AFLPA has been very helpful to AFL player in relation to the provision of services around Australia for many years.

    If Leo Barry had have spoken to Network 7 he would have been a scab,and he would have undermined the whole basis for the AFLPA's existence, and the services it has for many years provided to its members.

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