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Goodes has the potential to be BOG every game but he's not. However, overall he's good enough to be in the side even when he's below his best. Same with Davis (who doesn't have the potential be third best goalkicker anyway - that's an absurd claim).Originally Posted by Annie Haddad
Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."
Just ia ridiculous statement to make. If he played Johnson's role at the Bulldogs on the end of that delivery from midfield, then yes he could. But how on earth could he do that playing as a third forward!
"As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk
Can we have tackling stats for forwards?
You comparing Davis in the same line as Goodes then?
Davis can be lazy when he is off the ball, Goodes at least still tries to work hard, when he isn't playing well.
Davis is starting to become overrated.
Whoosh...You comparing Davis in the same line as Goodes then?
Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."
Davis needs to be firebombed to the extreme for not pulling his weight, just like stupid Ticketmaster.
Davis does about 1.3 per game, similar to Hall and MOL. Well behind ROK. Certainly an area for Davis to work on.
Davis averages about 12 disposals, 1.8 goals and 1.3 tackles per game.
He should work on improving that to about 16, 2.2 and 2.3, and then he will be one of the top players in our side. He's not that far off those numbers, but needs to make more of an effort, and needs to be involved more in the game plan.
To put that into perspective, here are stats from some other small forwards/part-time midfielders in 2007.
S Johnson 18.6, 2.5, 2.2
B Johnson 19.3, 2.8, 1.8
B Ebert 11.4, 2.2, 1.6
L Davis 12.5, 1.3, 4.3
A Didak 17.2, 1.8, 2.0 (2006)
C Jones 13.7, 2.0, 2.4
S Grant 16.7, 1.6, 1.6
Last edited by NMWBloods; 23rd April 2008 at 11:39 AM.
Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."
I understand the frustration with his potential, but it really is just Mark Waugh Syndrome... and I'd possibly extend it to a newly created "Every man" syndrome; Mark Waugh had a top test score of around 150, but sheeeeeeeesh based on his talent that was a dissapointment. He was a solid player for many years, played in a fantastic side but was a constant source of dissapointment to people because "on talent alone he should average the most since Bradman!".
Every man syndrome? Every man who pulled on a boot will look at Nick Davis and think "sheeeeesh, if I had half his talent I would have been a superstar!"
I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time
Over the years I've heard a number of different commentators say that with the quality of his disposal and how smart he is with his use of the ball that he only needs to average mid teens to be as good as guys averaging in the 20s.
I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time
Which is why I think it is a quantitative thing, not qualitative. People complain about the use of stats, but in this case a simple increase in those stats (which aren't actually that bad now) would be a meaningful improvement in Davis' contribution to being one of the best players in the team. No need for fluffy, uncertain, qualitative, appearance measures in this case.
The myth about half backs constantly running off him is just that - a myth. I don't see him as meaningfully worse than most other forwards in the competition at covering his man, despite constant protestations to the contrary.
Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."
I voted for bevo as i thought the question was;
'Who is less of a tool?'
I'm abstaining on the grounds that the poll doesn't not have appropriate comparators. Bevo is an established first grader whilst Davo plays permanently in the reserves. Pick a first grader to compare with Bevo and I'm voting.
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