Has anyone else noticed that while we have two brilliant players in Mick and Adam, we appear to be the only club in the AFL with no Indig boys coming through the ranks? On quite a few levels, this worries me. It doesn't appear to be equitable.
Has anyone else noticed that while we have two brilliant players in Mick and Adam, we appear to be the only club in the AFL with no Indig boys coming through the ranks? On quite a few levels, this worries me. It doesn't appear to be equitable.
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Ben Hilfenhaus is aboriginal...he was a good full back in Ulverstone. Maybe we can recruit him. That would stump the opposition. Bowl them over even.
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Matt's combo includes Philipino, and Daniel O'Keefe's cousin is Peb, so don't think so. I am talking about why haven't we got any indigenous boys other than Adam and Mick on our list. We have them as top ups in ressies, but not pen to paper on our list and I want to know why.Originally Posted by ScottH
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I would imagine (or at least hope) that the policy would be next best player available at our pick, subject to specific positional requirements. Race shouldn't even come into it, and neither should hometown for the most part.
Mind you, it has been a while since we last picked an aboriginal kid in the National draft - I make it 43 picks ago, Dwayne Simpson in the 98 draft?
Especially in the last few years when we've had a relatively small number of picks (2-3), I think it would be entirely possible to miss out entirely on certain player types depending on what was available at the time.
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If it is really a talent issue. It strikes me as somewhat improbable that we have not recruited an indigenous player over a prolonged period, when other teams have drafted many indigenous players.
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Aboriginal players have reputations of being talented but ill disciplined. Of course not all are, but sadly many seem to have be tarred by the same brush, so to speak.
That reputation may be partly to explain why the club has been reluctant to recruit young indigenous talent.
I would also like to say "sorry" to the stolen generations and all those affected by the travesty that befall them and thank the traditional owners of Driver Avenue for allowing us to enjoy our weekends on their land.
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Good point and the truely puzzling thing is that Magic and Goodsey are outstanding indigenous leaders. No doubt in their work they come across some great potential talent. It also raises the issue as to why it is that a dual brownlow medalist, probably the most brilliant player to don the red and white since Skilton hasn't been appointed to a collective captaincy (yet). And perhaps his obvious frustration of last season may be linked to this insult. By the way i am not suggesting an institutional racisim in the club as Goodsey and Magic would have tackled that head on. Maybe it is explained by the indigenous sub-culture that existed with the indigenous players under Rocket and a conrol freak's desire to ensure it doesn't occur again. All great coaches are control freaks. Roos is a great coach.
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Good idea. We should see if he can play AFL. He's no good at cricket.
I've been wondering that, too. I'm surely not the only Swans fan who watched last year's GF wondering why we didn't draft Cyril, who was one pick ahead of Vespa .
Kids from the topend or other remote areas take a lot of adjusting into big city life and you need support systems to help them. Essendon have done a brilliant job over the years in building that and I guess we don't have it.
But not all indigenous players come from remote areas, MOL and Goodesy being obvious examples. So, interesting question.
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Vespa goes alright. 'Should we have taken X or Y with that pick?' is imponderable and can be controversial even 5 or more years later.
For years the received wisdom from many was that we shoulda taken Steven Salopek with pick 5 in the 2002 national draft, and an excessive bias towards the local boy led us into error in picking Jarrad McVeigh. Come the end of 2008, there aren't so many people saying that any more.
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