Game Plan 2010

[Hartijon]

I was wondering whether the new players will change the game plan or will the game plan change the new players? The joke about Jetta having a player to tag all day could be true?

Our previous plan revolved around hard defensive work to stop the oppositions attacks dead in the water then graft away a win by outslogging them. We held the ball as long as possible even kicking backwards or sideways rather than bombing a 50% into the forwards.

Now we have good marking power in the forward 50 with Whitey and Bradshaw.We have speedy players who can break lines straighten us up and deliver long and quick(Kennelly, Shaw,Eski,)

Maybe its time for a plan that involves kicking more goals than the opposition ,not by choking them but by backing ourselves through constant attack.Let them try to stop us and see if they can put a choke hold on us like we used to do to other teams. Our speed and marking power can win us games only if we exploit it. What do others think our game plan should be?

[RogueSwan]

I'd love the boys to change their game to a more flashier and exciting plan but ...
I think we need to still be able to play the tough, grinding one-on-one style of play as inevitably that is what it takes to win finals.

As far as holding on to the ball for too long instead of bombing to a 50-50 contest I think that is smart football. The way backs are developed today, a good team can rebound a bombed kick very easily. I mean, that's what we hope our boys will be doing all year isn't it?

[ShockOfHair]

No, the game plan won't change much. It'll still be contested one on one footy, which has given us a great defensive base.

The difference this year is we'll have more rebound in the backline and more pace around the middle and up forward. The ability to break the lines was one of our biggest weaknesses last year.

Besides, I've never seen any sign of Roos or Longmire wanting to change the way we do things.

[Auntie.Gerald]

I agree Rouge !.......in summary an incremental change but the result and the excitement watching in 2010 could be worlds apart........we have so much potential and in 2010 if a few things go our way we will be Top6 I feel.

Swans style of football in the past is an uncompromising final series football which is obvious but at our peak we had goals in the forward line which was gold......and mid fields that left no air to breathe in the break downs.

Squeezing space and being extremely accountable in one on one football is our hallmark of Swans footy, but we had trouble countering the faster teams in 2008 and 2009.

This was a weakness. Identified and rectified as best as possible in our trading and selections. The ability for our guys to rap around the breakdowns and beat their opposing players one on one was a struggle. Goodes up field was a transition period too and cannot be underestimated the minimal break downs

My gut feeling is that Jude and Goodes will swap roles quite a bit through 2010. Goodes in my opinion will not be a rigid CHF - he will be back in the break downs where ever possible if his knee is right.......he and Jude seem a good swap as Jude can still make a handy lead and he has alluded to playing in the HF line in 2010 as well as the midfield

Bradshaw and White up field gives us so many options.

[rojo]

I'd love the boys to change their game to a more flashier and exciting plan but ...
I think we need to still be able to play the tough, grinding one-on-one style of play as inevitably that is what it takes to win finals.

As far as holding on to the ball for too long instead of bombing to a 50-50 contest I think that is smart football. The way backs are developed today, a good team can rebound a bombed kick very easily. I mean, that's what we hope our boys will be doing all year isn't it?

I personally hate it when they hold up the ball, kicking it backwards and sideways. I don't want them to bomb it indiscriminately into the forward line either. What about a plan to pass it to a line breaker running past or send a well directed kick to a leading forward? That's the kind of footy I like to see.

[hammo]

My gut feeling is that Jude and Goodes will swap roles quite a bit through 2010. Goodes in my opinion will not be a rigid CHF - he will be back in the break downs where ever possible if his knee is right.......he and Jude seem a good swap as Jude can still make a handy lead and he has alluded to playing in the HF line in 2010 as well as the midfield

Totally different players. What drugs are you on?

[Auntie.Gerald]

reefa man

just to elaborate.

There will be periods where we isolate just Bradshaw and White upfield with no tall leading Goodes at CHF. In these parts of the game we will want our HF line to be in the contest. In these periods of the game if I was coach I would want Goodes back in the midfield doing his thing around the ball. I would want Goodes moving forward than running back to the contest. Goodes greatest strength has always been to run slightly off the pack, burst through and send a ball into the forward line.

Now we know that jude has already said he will have his fair share on teh HF line in 2010.........in this case I dont want him isolated on the HF Flanks. I would want him in tight at CHF but in effect on the ball so our Twins Towers up front are in a big space all by them self. So Jude is not playing a CHF role when he moves into the CHF position.

With the Swans when ever I watch them they love 15 of the 18 players minimum to be on the ball in the contest, squeezing space to force turnovers and break downs for large parts of the game.

Starting Goodes at CHF is such a luxury as it means the opposition has to start 3 talls minimum in defence and then we will be able to shift Gooodes into the midfield for parts of the game and they will have to sub their tall marking him as they wont follow him into the ruck and they wont want a tall on say a Jude moving back o=into the HF line.

great advantage in match ups !

Brothers and sisters................peace

[ScottH]

Bomb it it long and quick, and let the newbies fight over the goals.

[goswannie14]

Game plan A: Kick more goals than the opposition.
game plan B: See plan A.

[Bas]

Game plan A: Kick more goals than the opposition.
game plan B: See plan A.

Plus what ScottH said.

[Nico]

reefa man

just to elaborate.

There will be periods where we isolate just Bradshaw and White upfield with no tall leading Goodes at CHF. In these parts of the game we will want our HF line to be in the contest. In these periods of the game if I was coach I would want Goodes back in the midfield doing his thing around the ball. I would want Goodes moving forward than running back to the contest. Goodes greatest strength has always been to run slightly off the pack, burst through and send a ball into the forward line.

Now we know that jude has already said he will have his fair share on teh HF line in 2010.........in this case I dont want him isolated on the HF Flanks. I would want him in tight at CHF but in effect on the ball so our Twins Towers up front are in a big space all by them self. So Jude is not playing a CHF role when he moves into the CHF position.

With the Swans when ever I watch them they love 15 of the 18 players minimum to be on the ball in the contest, squeezing space to force turnovers and break downs for large parts of the game.

Starting Goodes at CHF is such a luxury as it means the opposition has to start 3 talls minimum in defence and then we will be able to shift Gooodes into the midfield for parts of the game and they will have to sub their tall marking him as they wont follow him into the ruck and they wont want a tall on say a Jude moving back o=into the HF line.

great advantage in match ups !

Brothers and sisters................peace

Heaven help us if we expect to rely on Jude Bolton to kick goals for us. He has only ever been an in and under player with questionable disposal and goal kicking. From what I can see we have got back Kennelly to add pace and recruited Jetta to add speed and dilute the dourness of the past few years.

I am sure it was posted that we have been practicing moving the ball quickly and long into the forward line.

Jude Bolton as an effective crumber.....you can't be serious.

[Auntie.Gerald]

so let me get this straight Nico........

Jude himself said that he and the coaching dept said he would be playing significant minutes on the HF line in 2010. yet you can dispute this if you want !!....no biggy ..............but it sounds reality right now !

secondly, given that Jude himself said he would......... are you saying that he should be on the HFF flanks ?? There is no way I would have him on the flank.......bu that is just humble ol' me and my darn opinion !

NOW more importantly and the most important thing and the whole point of the discussion >........ let Goodes be free to play where he is needed and where he is best in any given part of the game !!!

call me crazy but I dont give a cracker who goes in to substitute Goodes at CHF when Goodes plays on the ball...........it might be White or Bradshaw..........but when you when have two giants standing up in the Forward line and you have one of the best midfielders of all time come back into the midfield we are splitting hairs on who goes back to the HF line.......we want two minimum midfielders on the bench so that in my opinion means one or two starting midfielder will probably need to change position !

I dont want that to be the Rock..........he is now a midfielder thru and thru !

Maybe Kirky Nico..........??