The way I see it too. I suspect there may be some rethinking the role Jesse plays.Originally Posted by supersall
The way I see it too. I suspect there may be some rethinking the role Jesse plays.
He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)
Sorry mate, can't agree. Probably because I'm an old hack hanging onlike bradshaw
Give him another year, play him first up, injury free and the Swans WILL go fiurther than this year. He breaks down, so what. Bring womeone else in. Fantastic I say
If u don't believe me, I will knock your bloody teeth out and not pay you a cent.
That was said (quite rightly) about MOL's knee, and he had an amazing renaissance in his final 2 seasons. We're not in any position to make expert medical calls; we can only judge on what we see on the park. Any FF who's able to break away from a class opponent like Lake enough to take 9 marks, is moving alright. It would be an exceedingly long bow to draw to claim that his poor hitting of his drop punts, was anything to do with his knee.
White was ok last week but like Bradshaw he will never be, not in any ones wildest dreams.........
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Totally agree with this. White should have played and ROK OUT!!!!. @@@@ing selfish! Smith to play ROK's role, Moore out and Bevan to take Johnson. Would have made Johnno accountable. But all hindsight. Not really I always felt this
Wrong quote but Jesse should have played as well. IN THE FORWARD LINE
Last edited by Tooth Fairy; 12th September 2010 at 12:22 AM.
If u don't believe me, I will knock your bloody teeth out and not pay you a cent.
Yeah mate he was @@@@ tonight
Last edited by Tooth Fairy; 12th September 2010 at 12:20 AM. Reason: oh I forgot to add rolll eyes
If u don't believe me, I will knock your bloody teeth out and not pay you a cent.
With enormous respect and due deference to the fact that emotions are high straight after a narrow loss to end the year, that's just absolute rubbish. What player ever plays at their absolute best, in their first game back in senior footy for 15 weeks? If he had kicked the 6 he should have kicked if he was hitting his kicks properly, you would still be suggesting he retire? And on what possible basis would you conclude that he will never kick reliably for goal again?
Yeah, I can imagine the conversation that Horse had with him before the game: "Look Braddy, you've tried hard and done pretty well when you've been out there this year, and you've been out of senior footy well over 3 months. But the selection committee has deemed that however you play tonight will be the peak of the rest of your career; so if you don't dominate, that's career over".
sorry but this thread is horrible.
he played a fantastic game until he had to think about kicking a goal. he is going to be an invaluable part of our forward line development for the next couple of years.
Last edited by Peace; 12th September 2010 at 12:27 AM.
Was that MMM with Lyon and Brayshaw etc, or the Sydney MMM team? He probably went better than I expected him to go - and I wouldn't have used that analogy (or something similar) to describe Bradshaw - but to be honest it is all a bit of a blur at the moment.
Recriminations after a game are always a bit loaded with emotion, so we probably shouldn't even be having these discussions at the moment. However, if I was creating a list of things that I wanted certain individuals to focus on over the summer it would mostly be about defensive work.
We have been rebounding well all year from half-back, but overhead, or during heavy body pressure, we have been quite poor. If you were evaluating the seasons of Grundy and Malcheski you would give both a big tick (particularly, in Grundy's case, with the absence of Bolton and LRT), but they still have their limitations at the moment. If as a team we were trying to emulate the efforts of the best team of the last four years in Geelong (which we should be) then both these players need to improve.
Too often this year Eski has not gone hard enough at the contest as I saw it unfold (he pulled out, or waited back, not put his head over the ball in critical situations, or not been prepared to take the hit in order to achieve the best outcome for the team). That is harsh criticism, particularly for someone up for AA selection, and also because what he does do in terms of run and carry has been outstanding. But his weaknesses, make us a weaker team, and if we want to be a great team he needs to improve.
Grundy has been out-bodied too easily on more than the odd occasion (and I am not at all referring to his dropped marks tonight - he had a shocker, but I have moved on). He has improved this year, no doubt, but he will need to again if we are going to improve as a team. He just does not kill as many contests as he should for a key defender. He is athletic, but does not seem to use his athleticism to his advantage in one-on-one situations (he also needs to be a bit meaner / determined - maybe that is just his style). I want he and LRT to spend some more time in the gym over the summer.
I would also like McVeigh to be given a tape of his numerous missed tackles and half-arsed attempts at chasing - he should be embarrassed by them. But again he is a good footballer who wins his own ball, is highly skilled, and works well at filling space defensively etc, when we don't have the ball. But if we want to improve, that is where his focus should be.
Bradshaw presented well and gave more options up front than Jesse, yes he had one noticeable stuff up but still looked and did more than Jesse has shown in the past few games.
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He would have taken more marks if they went more direct in the second half. Kevin Bartlett said he started to miss because he was bending his knee when kicking, a sure sign of a dodgy knee.
i agree his hands were very very good in contested mark situations. his kicking was disappointing but idont think jesse would have taken those marks.
and eski goes to ground very easily or perhaps too often
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