2009 Draft Reflection

**SCGonasunnyday** · 10th July 2011, 02:47 PM

Nothing new, but I thought it was interesting to reflect now that a little time has passed how good the 2009 draft was. A look at the list of the players we traded for and our draft selections and a look at our current senior team and it is really pleasing, something which was of course noted by everyone on RWO last year.

2010 looks good too, assuming Jed Lamb becomes a senior player.

Looking at the others, hard to fault anything pre 2005 as we won the flag.

Looking at 2005 - 2007 it is probably pretty disappointing. Imagine our current team with Cyril Rioli and Chris Dawes for example.

But probably the most fun to be had looking at the recent drafts is how badly some other teams have picked. Richmond, Western Bulldogs I'm looking at you. Overall I think the Swans have done pretty well, especially given the lack of top 10 picks we have had in this period.

2010

Jed Lamb
Luke Parker
Alex Johnson
Matt Spangher
Mike Pyke

2009

Shane Mumford
Josh Kennedy
Ben McGlynn
Gary Rohan
Lewis Jetta
Sam Reid
Byron Sumner
Trent Dennis-Lane
Kristin Thornton

2008

Rhyce Shaw
Lewis Johnston
Dan Hannebery
Campbell Heath

2007

Henry Playfair
Martin Mattner
Patrick Veszpremi
Brett Meredith
Craig Bird

2006

Peter Everitt
Daniel O'Keefe
Daniel Currie
Peter Faulks
Jesse White

2005

Paul Chambers
Ted Richards
Matthew Laidlaw
Kristin Thornton
Ryan Brabazon

2004

Darren Jolly
Jarred Moore
David Spriggs
Heath James

2003

Josh Willoughby
Tim Schmidt
Amon Buchanan
Andrew Ericksen
Matthew Davis

2002

Nick Davis
Jarrad McVeigh
Sean Dempster
Josh Thewlis
Nick Malceski

**RBS1** · 10th July 2011, 04:11 PM

Fantastic drafting , just shows you don't have to bottom out and Tank like some of the pathetic Melbourne clubs !!

**Legs Akimbo** · 10th July 2011, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by RBS1

Fantastic drafting , just shows you don't have to bottom out and Tank like some of the pathetic Melbourne clubs !!

Makes up for the wilderness years of 2002 - 2005

**wolftone57** · 13th July 2011, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by RBS1

Fantastic drafting , just shows you don't have to bottom out and Tank like some of the pathetic Melbourne clubs !!

We were lucky enough to get some high draft picks for volume (2 or more players) in trade deals including the Jolly deal. This isn't going to happen every year as we may not want to trade the player they want, Ryno is a good example. I don't think we have any top line players we want to trade at the moment but there are a few on the cusp, White & Merridith come to mind & we won't get no1 Draft picks for them, not unless the recruiters at the other club are fools.

**ernie koala** · 11th July 2011, 09:56 AM

There's nothing impressive about our drafting/trading from 2003 - 2008
6 years of drafts produced :
Just 3 draftees who have gone on to become regular senior players - Buchanun, Bird ,Hannebery
There is still hope for Meredith, Johnston, Heath.
And 4 recycled players, who were already regular senior players for their Clubs - Jolly, Richards, Mattner, Shaw
Everitt only gave us 1 good year. Chambers, Spriggs and Playfair gave us virtually nothing.
That's 6 very lean years.
Thank goodness for 2009 and hopefully 2010.

**Dosser** · 11th July 2011, 07:29 PM

Will Meredith actually play again? He seemed to be a project player of Roos' but he is never mentioned in despatches anymore.

**ScottH** · 11th July 2011, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Dosser

Will Meredith actually play again? He seemed to be a project player of Roos' but he is never mentioned in despatches anymore.

Yes, I worry about him too.
He never seemed to have gotten a decent run. Showed a little.
May not make the grade.

**caj23** · 12th July 2011, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Dosser

Will Meredith actually play again? He seemed to be a project player of Roos' but he is never mentioned in despatches anymore.

I called this trade a disaster at the time and it seems I was on the mark, particulary if Meredith doesn't make the cut at the end of the year.

This the output to date for the respective clubs, with the two Saints boys good for another 4-5 seasons yet

Schneider 77 games 113 goals
Dempster 56 games 8 goals

Meredith 14 games 8 goals

How depressing, particularly when we are crying out for someone (anyone) who can play forward

**Plugger46** · 13th July 2011, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by caj23

I called this trade a disaster at the time and it seems I was on the mark, particulary if Meredith doesn't make the cut at the end of the year.

This the output to date for the respective clubs, with the two Saints boys good for another 4-5 seasons yet

Schneider 77 games 113 goals
Dempster 56 games 8 goals

Meredith 14 games 8 goals

How depressing, particularly when we are crying out for someone (anyone) who can play forward

You're looking at that too simplistically. In that same trade period we traded out our 2nd round pick for Mattner - yes they were seperate trades but it's all about managing your list. At the time we were reported to have salary cap concerns so off-loading those two guys for a 2nd rounder wasn't such a bad result IMO.

**liz** · 13th July 2011, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Plugger46

You're looking at that too simplistically. In that same trade period we traded out our 2nd round pick for Mattner - yes they were seperate trades but it's all about managing your list. At the time we were reported to have salary cap concerns so off-loading those two guys for a 2nd rounder wasn't such a bad result IMO.

Agree. If you look at the trade as an indirect swap of Mattner for Schneider / Dempster it stacks up reasonably well. Dempster was traded to give him opportunities that Roos didn't think would come his way at the Swans. And Mattner has been good for us in a similar way to Schneider being good for the Saints.

Bear in mind that at the time we needed a HBFer more than a smallish HFF because we also had Buchanan (before he lost form) and up-and-comer Moore (before the interchange rules made life very hard for a player without natural endurance).