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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieH View Post
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    It was a poor tackle, agree that it was minor and in the big scheme of things, worth a fight to allow him to break the record in Sydney. However the rule makers want this type of thing out of the game. The Mums and Dads want their kid to be safe and ... Not going there in this thread.

    Therefore second offence similar in nature = 1 week.

    Older players don't bend as easily as a 22 y/o. Tackle the ball or the man that has the ball and leave the in and under role to the players that earn there money that way. IMO

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    I blame goodes playing too much soccer when he was young. Slide tackle has been engrained into him.

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    The previous incident that he was suspended for (not "escaped" despite uninformed comments from several Fox types over the weekend) was a little different in that he went in to a tackle feet first. I can accept that is reckless and potentially dangerous. This time he needed to get down low to get to the contest and his approach was really no different to Surjan's. I have no problem with the suspension so long as every other player who now slides into a contest in a similar fashion also gets reprimanded / suspended in a consistent fashion, especially if they get there a split second after an opponent.

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    The previous incident that he was suspended for (not "escaped" despite uninformed comments from several Fox types over the weekend) was a little different in that he went in to a tackle feet first. I can accept that is reckless and potentially dangerous. This time he needed to get down low to get to the contest and his approach was really no different to Surjan's. I have no problem with the suspension so long as every other player who now slides into a contest in a similar fashion also gets reprimanded / suspended in a consistent fashion, especially if they get there a split second after an opponent.
    Exactly, consistency is the problem here. This sort of reminds me of that tackle Mumford got suspended for. I remember watching games later that round, or perhaps the round after where a similar tackle occurred, except the tackler wasn't a 100kg+ ruckman and the victim wasn't Brownlow medalist and all-round golden boy Abblet. When you compare similar incidents why does one get charged and the other doesn't?

    I find it very annoying that they deemed the way Surjan attacked the ball and the way Goodes attacked the ball as very different. Surjan got to the ball first, but if you look at the footage Goodes, when he makes the decision to go to his knees, is looking at the ball. Only after does he brace for the contest and look up. Essentially they're penalising him for poor timing.

    Lastly I find it dreadful that the media is after him with the pitchfork. A lot of them as speaking about this sort of thing being a part of his game, trying to imply he's a bit of a dirty player, which is a profoundly disrespectful thing to say about a man of Adam's character. He's a bit of whiner and can get frustrated, but he's not the sort of person who is out there to deliberately hurt others. Clearly not seeing as he apologised straight away.

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    Actually just had a look at the footage again, and the impact between Goodes and Surjan isn't even knees first. He get him with his shins. What the @@@@ has happened to this game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLBIA14 View Post
    Lastly I find it dreadful that the media is after him with the pitchfork. A lot of them as speaking about this sort of thing being a part of his game, trying to imply he's a bit of a dirty player, which is a profoundly disrespectful thing to say about a man of Adam's character. He's a bit of whiner and can get frustrated, but he's not the sort of person who is out there to deliberately hurt others. Clearly not seeing as he apologised straight away.
    I wonder if they'll bring up Judd's eye gouging next time he is reported?

    Actually, I don't wonder. I know they won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
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    Unfortunately Goodes led with his knees when Surjan had got to the footy earlier. Was never going to win the footy, and just like the NAB Cup one, IMO is just a lazy avoidance of actually making a tackle. Could have easily kept his feet, let Surjan slide into the footy and wrap him up aiming for HTB.
    I assume you came to this conclusion looking at the incident in real time?

    Fact of the matter is if we suspend blokes for this then our game is a laughing stock. I've had a couple of NRL mates at work pissing themselves laughing that something like this can get scrutinized let alone suspended for. One said just show this vision out Penrith way and it'll be game, set and match to the NRL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLBIA14 View Post
    Lastly I find it dreadful that the media is after him with the pitchfork. A lot of them as speaking about this sort of thing being a part of his game, trying to imply he's a bit of a dirty player, which is a profoundly disrespectful thing to say about a man of Adam's character. He's a bit of whiner and can get frustrated, but he's not the sort of person who is out there to deliberately hurt others. Clearly not seeing as he apologised straight away.
    This is very sad. Even if one holds the view that Goodes is guilty, over his career, of a number of clumsy reckless acts that were/are guilty of suspension, his record is nothing compared to several other very successful, highly lauded players. Steven Johnson, for instance, has been guilty of a handful of more spiteful, stupid acts. When Mooney kept getting suspended, the reaction was "silly Mooney, he's done it again" and then they moved on. Even Barry Hall was lauded as a hero once he moved to the Bulldogs, with his past sin (and especially the big one) apparently wiped clean from his character record. Buddy's record of reported / suspended-for actions isn't dissimilar to Goodes', yet is he ever labelled as "crude" or "dirty"? At the weekend he was to be found deliberately grabbing a player's leg and uplifting him in an action that would have Dustin Fletcher shaking his head (given how many times he has been suspended for tripping) yet there was apparently nothing wrong with that.

    On OTT they touched very briefly on whether Goodes was being picked on in this instance, with Gerald or Mike asking the question of whether any other player would even have been looked at for this incident. However, because the entire FF programming last night was completely obsessed with analysing whether the Pies are in meltdown, at the expense of almost anything else that happened over the weeked, they had only allocated about 10 seconds to mentioning each of the other clubs and hence the question was left hanging.

    On the one hand, the media seems to acknowledge his playing career, and marvels about how he is still playing at the level he is despite having played over 300 games. They also acknowledge his off-field work as an ambassador / mentor within the indigenous community. Yet there seems to be a coterie of media commentators who appear to hold some deep felt grudge against him, such that whenever he does something slightly clumsy (in the course of a frantically paced game, and always in contests), his motives and character get questionned in a manner almost no other player is subjected to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GongSwan View Post
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    Goodesy could argue he was just trying to dig another hole.
    I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
    We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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    Goodes and Surjan should have had jousting sticks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    Agree he deserves a week for stupidity - this is becoming like the glancing bumps he was getting cited for a couple of years ago. Meaningless, lazy contact that he keeps repeating and won't learn from. He got a reprimand in the NAB Cup and then goes and does it again.

    It's just incredibly frustrating that for the bruise-free player he is, he gets multiple suspensions (including those he was able to turn into reprimands) for incidents that barely inconvenience the victim. And worse he adds to his poor record which will really hurt if he clumsily does something similar again.

    I'd be staggered if we appealed, I can't see on what basis - which of the following would we be disputing: negligent conduct (one point), low impact (one point) and body contact (one point)?
    Agree. He has some stupidness in his game at times, and this was just one of them.
    Not intentionally dangerous, just a stupidly dumb act!!

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