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[chammond]

Originally posted by Bolton brothers
I look forward to seeing how he has progressed in the practice matches ( I say that because whispers are that few senior players will be tried in the WC because we have started training relatively late and the concern about the work load on some of them. Bonus is we might get to see a whole lot of young players in the Carlton WC game.)

One of the criticisms I had of the Eade regime was that some of the draftees seemed to get a raw deal. So I was very pleased when Roos threw McVeigh, Dempster et al into the Wizard Cup last year, and if you're right and he does it again this year I'll be rapt.

I can't understand why clubs don't take the opportunity to put the spotlight on their youngsters in the pre-season games, even if it's only 5 or 10 minutes just to whet their appetites.

[CureTheSane]

Indeed, Cliff.

Add to that that we have a team of 22, and you could make an argument that the best performing youngster wins a place in the team every week.
Just to give them a taste.

[Foreign]

Please excuse all the numbers I listed when I compiled my attempt (below) - but they helped me in my assessment.
Made consideration of age, height and ability/performance as if I was a recruiter for another club - therefore players over a certain age will lose value despite being in good form. Similarly tall players who may ruck are highly sought after so they go higher despite possibly not performing as well as others.

I am a fan of another AFL team - so you might consider my assessment as unbiased.

No Height Weight Age Games Player Name
37 191 95 24.0 109 Goodes, Adam
1 194 98 26.9 127 Hall, Barry
2 184 81 23.7 93 Davis, Nick
36 175 76 19.6 22 Schneider, Adam
19 188 87 26.8 181 O?Loughlin, Michael
15 203 103 22.5 18 Doyle, Stephen
22 192 83 24.2 124 Saddington, Jason
17 190 83 22.5 50 Kennelly, Tadhg
12 178 75 23.8 90 Fosdike, Nic
5 187 89 22.9 42 O?Keefe, Ryan
24 180 76 23.8 89 Bolton, Jude
27 200 104 31.1 149 Ball, Jason
6 188 83 23.6 51 Bolton, Craig
4 182 84 25.1 108 Mathews, Ben
30 196 86 20.3 14 Roberts-Thomson, Lewis
25 192 93 27.1 151 Schauble, Andrew
43 197 93 19.5 5 Meiklejohn, James
29 190 76 19.8 5 Powell, Mark
28 173 77 25.8 130 Crouch, Jared
9 180 78 22.5 24 Fixter, Ben
35 188 73 21.0 9 Sundqvist, Jarrad
21 185 85 26.6 120 Barry, Leo
31 184 81 27.2 71 Kirk, Brett
10 176 82 30.7 252 Williams, Paul
23 184 82 28.6 147 Nicks, Matthew
11 178 85 31.7 258 Maxfield, Stuart
18 189 89 23.8 7 James, Heath
20 182 85 21.1 6 Ablett, Luke
32 177 80 21.2 6 Buchanan, Amon
33 188 88 27.5 109 Warfe, Rowan

[BayesysLeftBoot]

1. Adam Goodes
2. Barry Hall
3. Jude Bolton
4. Michael O?Loughlin
5. Tadhg Kennelly
6. Jason Saddington
7. Adam Schneider
8. Leo Barry
9. Craig Bolton
10. Nick Davis
11. Ben Mathews
12. Brett Kirk
13. Lewis Roberts-Thomson
14. Nic Fosdike
15. Ben Fixter
16. Stephen Doyle
17. Jared Crouch
18. Heath James
19. Mark Powell
20. Andrew Schauble
21. Luke Ablett
22. James Meiklejohn
23. Ryan O?Keefe
24. Jason Ball
25. Jarrad Sundqvist
26. Amon Buchanan
27. Stuart Maxfield
28. Paul Williams
29. Matthew Nicks
30. Rowan Warfe

[chammond]

Originally posted by Foreign

I am a fan of another AFL team - so you might consider my assessment as unbiased.

Welcome Foreign.

Given your "unbiased" status, I'm interested to know why you rated Barry and Kirk so low.

They both just missed out on AA selection last year, and barring injury each must have at least five years left in their careers.

I would think that they would be pretty highly rated by Roos?

[Foreign]

Don't get me wrong here, this list isn't in order of how good I think the players are - its in tradability.

Both Kirk and Leo are crackers (great) - especially Kirk - who I believe has made the Swans better by making all opposition midfields less effective.

This is the area that I believe the Swans need most improvement in - midfield - and I think that you have taken two great recruits from this year's draft - Schmidt and Willoughby - these will be great for you but will need 3+ years to develop into top flight midfielders.

The only reason that I ranked both thes players (Leo and Kirk) so low is age (both about 27 years old) and profile - the midfielder build is the most common - so a team looking for players usually wants talls or KPP - midfielders they usually recruit themselves as kids and develop them therefore not as much market value.

[liz]

Originally posted by Foreign


The only reason that I ranked both thes players (Leo and Kirk) so low is age (both about 27 years old) and profile - the midfielder build is the most common - so a team looking for players usually wants talls or KPP - midfielders they usually recruit themselves as kids and develop them therefore not as much market value.

There are plenty of midfielders who have been high profile trades (or attempted trades) - Nick Stevens, Nathan Brown, Des Headland, Shane Woewodin, Kane Johnson are just a few high profile ones in recent seasons who spring to mind without doing an exhaustive think. And at the next level down (which players like Kirk would probably fit into) there is usually plenty of interest as well.

Kirk maybe 27 but he probably has the physical capacity to play good footy for another 5 or so years at least. He is supremely fit and doesn't have a history of injury worries.

Barry isn't a midfielder - he is a medium defender with the ability to play much taller than his height. He also plays with a flair and recklessness rare in players in his position.

Most teams in the comp would happily take either of them, I reckon.