Great point, Aprilbr - and all the more reason for the clubs not to do it! A lot of harm done for limited returns.
(Although surely the money that is returned to the punters is counted in the revenue?)
Great point, Aprilbr - and all the more reason for the clubs not to do it! A lot of harm done for limited returns.
(Although surely the money that is returned to the punters is counted in the revenue?)
For what it is worth, I have a number of contacts within player welfare circles in Melbourne, and one interesting stat I have heard is that 28 betting agencies have been "licenced" by the AFL. In addition to that, the AFL Players Association has been trying to implement a gambling awareness and help program to be implemented at each club, but they are faced with a massive roadblock to this. This roadblock is none other than the AFL itself, and as of the time of writing this, this program is ready to go, but has been stopped in its tracks. Moral integrity? Dont make me laugh...
Good on the Shinboners. Despite their relatively lowly revenue they have apparently recorded a profit for the 8th time in 9 years: North in the black again with $470K profit - AFL.com.au. I wonder whether their facilities need refreshing.
You are not right there. The Pokie revenue IS profit, it's not what the poor buggers put in, it is the consolidated losses of the gambling addicts that prop up these Melbourne clubs.
What it also does is illustrate how far ahead the WA teams, in the only state of Australia that doesn't have pokies (and they don't seem to be doing too bad without them), would be if the Vic clubs ran ethical businesses.
Almost in three dollars coming into the Hawthorn Football Club is from the pockets of punters who drain their salary or savings into their steel traps. Absolutely disgraceful
WA is not totally free. Burwood Casino has them.
Pokies are a scourge on society, and I'd be happy to 'blow them up' and ban the whole lot of them. I think the WA strategy, with them only in the casino, is the way to go if we must have them. The way they have decimated the pub and club scene in NSW and Victoria in particular is very sad, and they are not a net 'beneficiary' to the community that the club sector in particular suggests they are.
The AFL should help clubs like the wees and poos wean themselves off this reliance ASAP and also give up the links to gambling more generally. But that's about as likely as the AFL admitting just how @@@@@@ over we got in the GF in search of the 'fairytale'.
"You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."
Just to clarify the revenue figure is the amount lost by punters to the license holders. It's net takings, not gross amount bet.
You're right that revenue isn't the whole picture, because assets have a cost to maintain. The post I linked also contains assets/liabilities, and profit and loss for each club as shown here:
Clubs are mostly getting a few million from their machines though.
I think I worked out Brisbane are spending 12m on their club venue and getting 16m income from it, 15m being pokies takings. Vic clubs might be a bit less profitable, and SA will be substantially less so.
Last edited by R-1; 9th December 2016 at 12:12 PM.
Thanks for the clarification on the pokies.
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Fremantle are to be commended that they are able to raise all that bail money without having to rely on pokies revenue.
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