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    Cats get pick 20 as compo for Motlop?!

    Given we have pick values it seems such an obvious fix that the club trading in the player should have to pay the trade points to do the deal.

    Every club getting pushed back in draft order is such a stupid system when the club trading in doesn�t contribute anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Industrial Fan View Post
    Cats get pick 20 as compo for Motlop?!

    Given we have pick values it seems such an obvious fix that the club trading in the player should have to pay the trade points to do the deal.

    Every club getting pushed back in draft order is such a stupid system when the club trading in doesn�t contribute anything
    I couldn't agree more. The whole system seems to be geared to benefit both the donor and recipient club at the expense of all other clubs. The donor club gets a compensation pick (19 for Motlop is ridiculous) and the recipient club gets the player without having to trade out. I can't fathom the logic. Over time I think this system could be gamed by two clubs trading players back and forth.
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    I think any year we don't get a free agent or an academy players or a great trade, we go backwards a little.

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    I wonder if we'll look at any delisted players. Lachie Keeffe from Collingwood could be a good pick up for more KPP depth


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    The Swans already have too much depth, which is why some of it will be going elsewhere. There's no point in adding players who are not good enough to stay on the list of lesser sides. It's better to use the list spot for a prospect who could turn into good player. Our hit rate is pretty good for low draft picks. The Swans need to move players already on our list from development to senior level when there are scant few spots available.

    Even playing only one ruckman, meaning only 1 of Tippett, Sinclair, Naismith or Cameron will play, I figure we only have 2 spots available to pick from the following 6 players: McVeigh, Hayward, Florent, Dawson, Towers and Cunningham. I also think Fox will be in the mix next year as he will be 25 and ready to go. O'Riordan will challenge as well. It's easy to see why Robinson wants out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludwig View Post
    .... playing only one ruckman, meaning only 1 of Tippett, Sinclair, Naismith or Cameron will play,........
    Not sure. Maybe it's time for Tippo to lighten off a bit and play as a specialist forward again. He's bulked up in latter years to handle the ruck role. So he's slowed down and his weight is probably half his problem with soft tissue leg injuries. And he should get a better run at it now Mummy won't be concussing him twice a year!
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    Any news on Towers getting traded...lol

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    Get rid of the dam free agency compensations. It's such a half baked concept. We've dipped our toes in it and the water is fine - embrace player movement.

    Would love to see us trading Sinclair/Rohan/Cunningham/Tippo etc for 2018 2nd and 3rd rounders.. from the sounds of it, it's a hot draft and we'll need points for Blakey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludwig View Post
    The Swans already have too much depth, which is why some of it will be going elsewhere. There's no point in adding players who are not good enough to stay on the list of lesser sides. It's better to use the list spot for a prospect who could turn into good player. Our hit rate is pretty good for low draft .
    I would say we're also pretty good at taking fringe players from other sides and turning them into best 22 for us. I think the only reason to go for Keeffe is if we require more depth in KPP stocks which I think we do. If we're happy with our current depth then I agree we're better off going through the draft


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    If the list management team thinks we need a seasoned tall defender as cover, in case we get an injury to our current crop, there are quite a few experienced tall defenders available this year as free agents - Hansen, Collins, Schade as well as Keeffe (not to mention Talia!) I'm not sure it's an urgent need but of that group, I think Keeffe is the least appealing.

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