Will never forget Gill's look of a rabbit staring onto oncoming head lights when first asked what he thought was behind the ever increasing booing of Goodes and saying he wasn't sure. Like the Hawthorn FC president (Newbould), they didn't want to admit it was racially motivated because protecting their brand was the priority and not Goodes.Originally Posted by stevoswan
Even today I am amazed how soft the AFL and the media was on Eddie. Roseanne makes a monkey comment and they attack her like a group of vultures. Eddie calls Goodsey King Kong and he gets away Scot free. Identical comments and one is a racist and the other is just a commentator telling a joke!!
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On the AFL app there is a flashback to when Plugger (as a Saint) threw his crutch at Chins. They interviewed the Fat Controller recently for the clip and he smugly thinks the incident was amusing and takes no ownership for being the media vulture in the incident.
I don't miss Roseanne and she got what she deserved.....and wish I could say the same about Eddie. But this is Australia......
Just to be clear, the Eddie in the thread title is Eddie Betts. Different from Eddie McG in several directions!
He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)
Rash generalisation that implies that if you are white (and this apparently is connected at the hip to privilege) then you are not worthy of having a comment.
The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.
On a side note with regards to McGuire, it's interesting how quickly things can and have changed.
Australia certainly considers itself to be more racially enlightened than America.
Yet if you look at the Roseanne comment and the result of her comment you would say that Eddie completely dodged a bullet.
I wonder what the reaction would be (both public and as a retaliation) if he came out with something like that today?
The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.
Not really. Annie is not saying Cherny is "not worthy of making a comment", only that his comment carries very little weight because it is not informed by experience. Annie takes this further than I would, but there is a point to be made. What you seem to be suggesting - and I may be wrong here, please correct me if I am - is that all opinions are equally valid and carry equal weight. They aren't. Some draw on evidence, experience and reason. Others, to paraphrase Annie's colourful words, are pulled directly out of people's arses.
Only the political right claim this.....pathetically and desperately. No, not all white people are privileged but one thing is for sure, a person of colour is far more qualified to give an opinion on the 'non-white' experience......The 'privilege' you refer to is actually......not being subjected to racism, bigotry, suspicion, lack of opportunity, stereotyping and being treated differently. I, as a non indigenous person, have never had to experience any of this undeserved burden in my life.....and I feel lucky, even privileged......but also slightly ashamed and very ready to listen.
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Of course. And different experiences allow for different angles on the issue.
There is also a morality argument here as well ie: a large proportion of the population is well on board with what is trying to be achieved and the opinions from these people should not be diminished due to lack of direct experience with the particular issue.
There are many arguments that I don't agree with, but that doesn't completely make them invalid.
Without these arguments (that most won't agree with) there IS no argument to be had.
There needs to be protagonists to create an issue and only after that can arguments be had and changes perhaps made.
But I've said it before. This issue, and many others like it, are generational.
I am constantly surprised at how my kids' generation is so different with regard to all forms of prejudice, inclusion and how these issues are so vastly lessened amongst them.
The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.
Rubbish.Only the political right claim this.....pathetically and desperately. No, not all white people are privileged but one thing is for sure, a person of colour is far more qualified to give an opinion on the 'non-white' experience......
Go down to some housing commission flats and see how those in lower socio-economic categories are treated.
I fully understand the argument that you and others are trying to make, but you are saying that because of my skin colour I am able to come close to understanding the issues at hand that are faced by others.
Apparently my moral compass is locked in place, unable to move towards the 100% required to make a comment, because of my skin colour?
The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.
That's because Eddie is left wing whilst Rosie is right wing. That's how the overly politically correct and biased media works in the world these days.
It was actually quite embarrassing how Roseanne was treated. She, along with her fellow cast gets the sack for her making a monkey reference in a tweet whilst the rest of Hollywood says "@@@@ Trump" verbally and they get a pat on the back.
The political world is so unreasonably balanced.
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