#AFL Rd 18 Swans v Suns, SCG, 21 July 2018 @SydneySwans #SwansSuns

[chammond]

A reflection of the youth and relative experience of our team.

That's the key. We have a large group of technically gifted but inexperienced players who are used to winning. But we no longer have the right group of leaders to hold the team together. Kennedy is a leader-by-example; without Jack and McVeigh, we no longer have that "generalissimo" type leader who can rally the troops. Rampe tries hard, but his influence is really only in the back line. The result is that the youngsters keep doing what they always do, and get more and more and frustrated when it doesn't work.
You see it lot in junior team sport - a successful team has one or two natural leaders who pull the team together when the chips are down. But those leaders are usually the first players promoted to the seniors, and then the junior team runs around like headless chooks until a new leader is found.
We're barely a top-four team this year, especially with so many injuries, and we desperately need McVeigh fit and firing (and pointing) to get the show back on the road before the charge to the finals.

[AnnieH]

That's the key. We have a large group of technically gifted but inexperienced players who are used to winning. But we no longer have the right group of leaders to hold the team together. Kennedy is a leader-by-example; without Jack and McVeigh, we no longer have that "generalissimo" type leader who can rally the troops. Rampe tries hard, but his influence is really only in the back line. The result is that the youngsters keep doing what they always do, and get more and more and frustrated when it doesn't work.
You see it lot in junior team sport - a successful team has one or two natural leaders who pull the team together when the chips are down. But those leaders are usually the first players promoted to the seniors, and then the junior team runs around like headless chooks until a new leader is found.
We're barely a top-four team this year, especially with so many injuries, and we desperately need McVeigh fit and firing (and pointing) to get the show back on the road before the charge to the finals.

The only way we're going to get McHack back is if Jesus comes back and performs a miracle.
A broken collarbone (even with surgery) will take months to repair.

[KTigers]

That's the key. We have a large group of technically gifted but inexperienced players who are used to winning. But we no longer have the right group of leaders to hold the team together. Kennedy is a leader-by-example; without Jack and McVeigh, we no longer have that "generalissimo" type leader who can rally the troops. Rampe tries hard, but his influence is really only in the back line. The result is that the youngsters keep doing what they always do, and get more and more and frustrated when it doesn't work.
You see it lot in junior team sport - a successful team has one or two natural leaders who pull the team together when the chips are down. But those leaders are usually the first players promoted to the seniors, and then the junior team runs around like headless chooks until a new leader is found.
We're barely a top-four team this year, especially with so many injuries, and we desperately need McVeigh fit and firing (and pointing) to get the show back on the road before the charge to the finals.

Paul Roos who I usually don't have a lot of time for did say one thing a year or two back re leadership on the footy field that
I think really hit the mark. While poo pooing "leadership groups" to an extent, he said that real leadership was one smart and
experienced player in a tight game situation standing in the middle of the backline telling the other players what to do, where
to stand, who to mark up on etc. That's why I really rate Jarrad McVeigh. Someone has to do what he does. These 21, 22
year olds just don't know what to do when things start going awry. Jarrad has been playing since the dawn of time and there is
no situation on the footy field that he hasn't been through at least a hundred times before. Rhyce Shaw at GWS
is another, he spends most of the game yelling at the other guys in the backline, most of whom are half his age. And like McVeigh,
he still has it as a player. We need guys who are both leader-by-example and leader-by-yelling-and-pointing a lot.

[Hotpotato]

Heard on the radio:
Was listening when a Lady rang a Sports programme .
She said she was sitting behind the benches . After quarter time, a Suns player runs off and a Swans player (she didn’t say who ) sledges him with .
“Mate you’re the worst team in the comp. What are you doing here?”

When this was relayed , the Suns took almost total control of the game.

[MattW]

That's the key. We have a large group of technically gifted but inexperienced players who are used to winning. But we no longer have the right group of leaders to hold the team together. Kennedy is a leader-by-example; without Jack and McVeigh, we no longer have that "generalissimo" type leader who can rally the troops. Rampe tries hard, but his influence is really only in the back line. The result is that the youngsters keep doing what they always do, and get more and more and frustrated when it doesn't work.
You see it lot in junior team sport - a successful team has one or two natural leaders who pull the team together when the chips are down. But those leaders are usually the first players promoted to the seniors, and then the junior team runs around like headless chooks until a new leader is found.
We're barely a top-four team this year, especially with so many injuries, and we desperately need McVeigh fit and firing (and pointing) to get the show back on the road before the charge to the finals.

Good one. I think Mills might be the next 'generalissimo' player in our squad. I think Isaac is more a lead by example kind of player.

[barry]

Heard on the radio:
Was listening when a Lady rang a Sports programme .
She said she was sitting behind the benches . After quarter time, a Suns player runs off and a Swans player (she didn’t say who ) sledges him with .
“Mate you’re the worst team in the comp. What are you doing here?”

When this was relayed , the Suns took almost total control of the game.

Hasn't she heard of carlton.?

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The only way we're going to get McHack back is if Jesus comes back and performs a miracle.
A broken collarbone (even with surgery) will take months to repair.

I tend to agree. McVeigh has played his best for many years this year because he wasn't carrying an injury. He, like towers, need to be 110% fit to be senior selectable.

Will he be in a month's time?

[Markwebbos]

The only way we're going to get McHack back is if Jesus comes back and performs a miracle.
A broken collarbone (even with surgery) will take months to repair.

They were talking about having Macca back in time for Pies or Melbourne. Although that does seem quick. Maybe you can play with a plate holding it together?

We definitely would benefit from more experience in the side. We just lack ANY experienced players who are fit and in form, other than potentially Grundy and Kizza.

[Plugger1300]

So she heard him relay it to the whole team at quarter time and used as direct motivation
Impressive

Hope Goddard hits us with one like this on Friday night

[stevoswan]

Part of Titus O'Reilly's reflection on our game: The Monday Knee Jerk Reaction: AFL Round Eighteen | Titus O'Reily

So bad was this loss for the Swans, that I believe they will be forced to relocate to Tasmania.

It was embarrassing. Sydney were up by 29 points after a six-goal opening quarter.

They then kicked just two more goals for the remaining three quarters. The Suns kicked eleven.

What was most surprising is the lack of interest from the Swans after the first quarter. I’ve seen more intensity from a room of stoned teenagers.

It’s hard to explain what’s wrong with the Swans.

When they win everyone raves about the young talent they've unearthed, when they lose, it’s because Buddy takes up all the salary cap and they have no supporting talent.

Both those explanations can’t be right.

Spot on.....especially the emboldened bits......

[rojo]

So he will be right in time for the finals!

[AnnieH]

They were talking about having Macca back in time for Pies or Melbourne. Although that does seem quick. Maybe you can play with a plate holding it together?

We definitely would benefit from more experience in the side. We just lack ANY experienced players who are fit and in form, other than potentially Grundy and Kizza.

Probably on an arm or a leg, but on a collarbone? I'd be concerned and all paranoid about someone knocking it (or targeting it) and doing serious neck damage. But I guess that's just me.
I had a steel plate and a heap of screws put into my leg years ago... upside was that I could walk on it a week later, but it's never really "healed". Bad breaks never really do.

[goswannies]

They were talking about having Macca back in time for Pies or Melbourne. Although that does seem quick. Maybe you can play with a plate holding it together?

We definitely would benefit from more experience in the side. We just lack ANY experienced players who are fit and in form, other than potentially Grundy and Kizza.

The plate only holds it in position. The bone continues to heal over a 6-8 week period (sometimes slower). The plate is often taken out down the track (post season in this instance) if it’s causing troubles (it’s positioned quite superficially)