Shane Mumford

**S.S. Bleeder** · 24th October 2018, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by CureTheSane

Recalling the Michael Talia situation, I assume most here are kind of cool with Mummy and him coming back to the Swans?
At the time I called for Talia to be removed from the Swans and copped a fair bit for having that POV.
People saying that drugs are a part of society and to wake up etc

Aside from that, there is no way Mumford will get another gig now.

It looks like GWS are still going to bring him back. What idiots. I wouldn't want my son being recruited by GWS if there are coke users there.

**KSAS** · 24th October 2018, 08:55 AM

Mummy will be on Coke Zero!

**0918330512** · 23rd October 2018, 04:35 PM

GW$ say it’s 3 year old footage (implying it’s not an issue) but that he is entering into a rehab program (which suggests that it’s still an issue)

**707** · 23rd October 2018, 05:54 PM

GWS can't entertain the idea of a Mummy comeback given that footage is now public, what a silly sausage he is.

**Mel_C** · 23rd October 2018, 06:32 PM

I will never understand why these footballers risk their careers by taking drugs. And I really really don't understand why they want to film themselves taking drugs!

**Doctor** · 23rd October 2018, 11:07 PM

The fact that this is 3 years old and is only emerging now is problematic from a natural justice perspective as there are questions over why it has been released now, who did it and why as well as the length of time between when it happened and now. I think those are all factors that should be weighed up in assessing what, if anything, is meted to Mumford as punishment.

More broadly though, and in response to a couple of other posts, my feeling is that what happens in the community is no excuse for what footy players do. "Everybody else is doing it so why shouldn't we" is a cop out for a few reasons:-

- It's illegal
- They're footy players so them being required to look after their physical condition is a reasonable expectation by their club
- With visibility and profile comes responsibility. It's not enough to say that others are doing it. Others aren't AFL players with media profiles earning decent coin and setting themselves up for life (in some cases)

You make your choice. Do drugs recreationally if you want, and I agree that it's far from the worst of social crimes IF you can keep it under control (Cousins, B.) but if you want to be a footy player you have to make some sacrifices, and not doing what Mumford did is one of them.

**CureTheSane** · 24th October 2018, 10:06 AM

TBH I haven't even bothered reading about this Mummy stuff too much, but from what I understand this happened after an injkury that was to end his career.
Semantics that he was still on the list at the time.
So he did drugs knowing he was never going to play at the top level again.
No big deal really, kind of happened during his 'civilian life'
But it was stupid, and in hindsight obviously short sighted

**0918330512** · 24th October 2018, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by CureTheSane

TBH I haven't even bothered reading about this Mummy stuff too much, but from what I understand this happened after an injkury that was to end his career.
Semantics that he was still on the list at the time.
So he did drugs knowing he was never going to play at the top level again.
No big deal really, kind of happened during his 'civilian life'
But it was stupid, and in hindsight obviously short sighted

It might have happened after the injury that ultimately ended the first phase of his his playing career, but if it was just after that, then it’s unlikely he knew his career was over. He would have been during the early rehab phase. Surely illicit recreational drugs aren’t conducive to a good recovery?

To be honest part of me thinks it’s his body and life to screw up if he wants. It’s none of my business how he wastes his money, talent and career.

But another part of me thinks that he is a professional and has some responsibility to his club and I suppose supporters. They are the ones who gave him the opportunity to get exposure to the illicit drug scene and the money to afford it. They are his employer and his actions harm his performance and the brand of his employer. He was a marquee player and as such a public figure and a role model.

But really, who would allow themselves to be filmed? That’s just stupid. And what sort of ass-ish “mate” posts it 3 years later?

**CureTheSane** · 24th October 2018, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by 09183305

It might have happened after the injury that ultimately ended the first phase of his his playing career, but if it was just after that, then it’s unlikely he knew his career was over. He would have been during the early rehab phase. Surely illicit recreational drugs aren’t conducive to a good recovery?

To be honest part of me thinks it’s his body and life to screw up if he wants. It’s none of my business how he wastes his money, talent and career.

But another part of me thinks that he is a professional and has some responsibility to his club and I suppose supporters. They are the ones who gave him the opportunity to get exposure to the illicit drug scene and the money to afford it. They are his employer and his actions harm his performance and the brand of his employer. He was a marquee player and as such a public figure and a role model.

But really, who would allow themselves to be filmed? That’s just stupid. And what sort of ass-ish “mate” posts it 3 years later?

No reason why both part of you can't be right.
Yes, ultimately it's his body to screw up if he wants.
Yes, he owes it to his club, teammates and supporters to act in a professional way.