Changes for R7 vs Gold Coast Guns

[707]

I've only watched to half time of the Richmond game, Stevic stitched us up very early, as he always does. My heart always sinks when I see his name on our umpiring panel.

So before digesting what I believe is an arduous watch of the second half, my thoughts turned to next weeks encounter and what the odds would be.

You've all seen the Suns in action this year, and you've seen us in action, that's mainly injury list action, so I was surprised to find we are favourites and the talent of Gold Coast is a generous IMO $1.95 the win. Very tempted to secure my retirement at those odds having watched the magic debut of Izak Rankine. If you want a laugh in these gloomy times, head over to the Adelaide Trading/drafting thread on BF, Seriously deluded supporters there selling crap Adelaide players for gold and luring back ex SA boys the likes of Rankine, Lukocious etc. Gives you a laugh, takes your mind off our deepening crisis that even Dan Andrews or Ronald Trump couldn't solve for us. So to changes for next week, I'll start the ball rolling

OUT - JPK, Heeney
IN - F nose

[Markwebbos]

Hopefully some tall players back, although potentially not AA.

Out: JPK, Blakey, Gray
In: Reid, Sinkers, Brand

I’m in denial about Heeney.

[longmile]

We should get back a few tall players

Out: Kennedy (inj), Stoddart (omitted), Gray (omitted), Warner (omitted)

In: Taylor, McInerney, Aliir, Brand

Any word on what happened with Aliir? If Aliir's not on and Reid is, that's fair play or if Reid is fit I'd play him in front of either McInerney or Taylor.

Hope Heeney isn't injured...

Blakey's second half saved him and I'm very happy to say that Hayward played well.

[wolftone57]

We should get back a few tall players

Out: Kennedy (inj), Stoddart (omitted), Gray (omitted), Warner (omitted)

In: Taylor, McInerney, Aliir, Brand

Any word on what happened with Aliir? If Aliir's not on and Reid is, that's fair play or if Reid is fit I'd play him in front of either McInerney or Taylor.

Hope Heeney isn't injured...

Blakey's second half saved him and I'm very happy to say that Hayward played well.

Why would you omit Warner? He did little wrong under the circumstances.

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[longmile]

Why would you omit Warner? He did little wrong under the circumstances.

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Agreed. Later in the thread I revise my changes.

However AA, McInerney and L.Taylor really should come back into the side as well. Excited to have some talls back with Reid and Sinclair

[wolftone57]

Agreed. Later in the thread I revise my changes.

However AA, McInerney and L.Taylor really should come back into the side as well. Excited to have some talls back with Reid and Sinclair

I doubt Reid is ready therefore not picked. But you are on the money. Sinclair and McCartin. Sad that McClean is going out I thought his value as resting ruck was good. Not as first ruck as he is not quite tall enough. But as that huge marking target he does get the ball to ground and give us a go.

Looks like Fox as second ruck. I am not very happy with that situation. Aliir is back. They have stuck to the story he was dropped to regain form. Strange way to regain form, not playing. Worst decision in Horse's career and he's made some monumental blunders like playing underdone players in grand finals.

Love the inclusion of Elijiah Taylor. He will bring some real zip and excitement.

There are several players who should be on notice. Harry was poor yet again last week. O'Riordan the same. I thought Blakey had a better game but does not do the team thing enough. Twice he cost us last week because he chose to go on his own rather than give off. Hayward has had a life line down back and is taking full advantage. Ryan Clarke should also be on notice. He gets to the ball often enough but often fumbles, makes bad decisions or has terrible disposal. Sad because as I say he gets his head over the ball and does all the hard work but undoes it all by skill errors or errors of judgement. Last week he had the chance to with kick upfield to a one on one or give to a player surrounded by Teiers players. He chose the latter in a nervous moment.

I think the team has better balance this week. Last week playing no talks was just stupid. I know we had many talks injured but pulling Aliir, ignoring Gould and Maibaum was a big factor in why we could not get the ball out. Because we had no structure. Small players are not taught to structure up like the big blokes because they do not play jep positions.

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[Cosmic Wizard]

Need to play a few more younger players, as this season is a wipe off:

Also; Blakely's performance was woefully; his first half non existence and he need to be sent a message by being drop.

Out: Negative Coaching, just to keep the scores respectable: Kennedy, Blakely, Gray, Clarke

In: Taylor, McInerney, anyone not injured, lets give them a crack

Parker was really down yesterday; hope it wasn't the coaching to lose respectably, and not to try and win.

[mcs]

Need to play a few more younger players, as this season is a wipe off:

Also; Blakely's performance was woefully; his first half non existence and he need to be sent a message by being drop.

Out: Negative Coaching, just to keep the scores respectable: Kennedy, Blakely, Gray, Clarke

In: Taylor, McInerney, anyone not injured, lets give them a crack

Parker was really down yesterday; hope it wasn't the coaching to lose respectably, and not to try and win.

Look I get the criticism of our tactics yesterday. But what alternate strategy do people suggest we should have used? The aim of a football game is to win the game at the end of the day. If we went gung ho we would of got slaughtered without any talls up forward in those conditions and the ability of Richmond to use the ball well on the turnover. I just don't know what the alternate was. That isn't to say I haven't been a critic of Longmire's tactics at times - but I think the outcry about yesterday is pretty ridiculous, given the conditions and the list of outs we had. It kept us in the game, and had Blakey's late one that just missed been a goal we could of actually stolen a game we had no right to even be close in.

As for ins and outs - I don't see what benefit there is for dropping Blakey. He is struggling sure - but we have no obvious ins to replace him, and we all know the quality player he will develop into. Every young player goes through troughs early in their career - with the absence of a proper reserves competition this year, I don't see what benefit there is from him sitting on the pine basically. He will need to work through it, and will suddenyl look a lot more effective once we have a few decent talls back and some resemblance of a forward line. This year is a write off anyway in terms of results - so lets make the use of it. He is a key part of our future if we get his development right.

[Mr Magoo]

Look I get the criticism of our tactics yesterday. But what alternate strategy do people suggest we should have used? The aim of a football game is to win the game at the end of the day. If we went gung ho we would of got slaughtered without any talls up forward in those conditions and the ability of Richmond to use the ball well on the turnover. I just don't know what the alternate was. That isn't to say I haven't been a critic of Longmire's tactics at times - but I think the outcry about yesterday is pretty ridiculous, given the conditions and the list of outs we had. It kept us in the game, and had Blakey's late one that just missed been a goal we could of actually stolen a game we had no right to even be close in.

As for ins and outs - I don't see what benefit there is for dropping Blakey. He is struggling sure - but we have no obvious ins to replace him, and we all know the quality player he will develop into. Every young player goes through troughs early in their career - with the absence of a proper reserves competition this year, I don't see what benefit there is from him sitting on the pine basically. He will need to work through it, and will suddenyl look a lot more effective once we have a few decent talls back and some resemblance of a forward line. This year is a write off anyway in terms of results - so lets make the use of it. He is a key part of our future if we get his development right.

Agree - I think the negative criticism should be aimed at Richmond . They just sat back as well and waited to counter attack and essentially we didnt fall for it.
The game was terrible to watch but and the commentary even worse to listen to but to point the finger at the swans was in my view ridiculous. We had kennedy on the bench and heeney struggling with an ankle for most of the game along with no ruckman and no tall forwards. Hardly the conditions to open the shoulders up and play all out attacking football.

Re Blakey - if there was a NEAFL , I would drop him but no point at the moment. He just needs to get back to basics and stop always trying to do the tricky stuff and there was some times yesterday where he showed little awareness.

Ive been critical of Hayward but I thought he did well at half back and they should continue to give him that role as then it potentially frees up Mills as he develops in that position.

Stephens did very well and I thought looked comfortable, was strong and got to the right positions. Warner tried but needs more development for me.

Dissapointed with Gray. He isnt as good as papleys shadow let alone the little man himself. Papley is a gun and will be sad if we lose him at end of year.

[Ralph Dawg]

Difficult to say who in as dependent on who of our tall timbers are available (Brand, McCartain, Sinclair and Reid). If all are available, conceivably all are in, along with Aliir who potentially could return as an intercepting tall defender.

Outs: Joey definitely, and if any doubt at all, Heeney. No point Heens suffering a long term serious lower leg injury in season 2020.

If some talls back, I'd give Blakey one more run.
Hayward another game in defence, Mills on ball, although he did have a cracker in defence.

[Aaron]

Please note that he title of this thread should be changed to "Changes for R7 vs Gold Coast " R6 was Vs Tigers

[The Runner]

There are alternatives to dropping players when looking to give constructive feedback.
Blakey will no doubt be shown that he's trying to do too much when he gets it. His effort was there in the second half. He was just trying to pull off something incredible with every possession (eg the handball chip and chase) instead of simple wet weather footy. He'll be better for it.

Hayward has huge potential as a defender. Similar type and journey to Sicily. He showed last week he needs to learn a bit more about how to defend with body work. Hopefully that is a focus for him this year.

Fox was very commendable, aided significantly by weather and injury. But he's an option down back. Brand in to take on King.

Even though we got killed in the ruck and played without JPK, we broke even on centre clearances and almost did so in total clearances. So, do we need Sinclair? He offers minimal around the ground, whereas McLean looked more mobile and able to take a mark at either end.

Mills to the middle has to happen now that JPK appears injured. Time to build that future on ball core.

Gray is showing why he was let go. Would Wicks offer more? Obviously we need to keep as many mature bodies in the team as we can, but he's not up to it.

Warner and Stephens need a good run at it. Loved the courage of Warner to kick in board in the wet. Leave them for a month
Same as Stoddart. Needs a proper go at it.

Ins: Reid or McCartin (risky to bring both underdone), McInerney
Out: JPK, Heeney
If Heeney is fit, I'd swap Gray for Wicks or a similar type.