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    I just noticed this on the AFL match feed:

    "In the 51 ruck contests that Jarrod Witts and Callum Sinclair contested against each other, Witts won hitouts-to-advantage 10 to three, [Gold Coast] won the clearances 26 to 13 and Gold Coast outscored Sydney 4.2.26 to 1.1.7."

    And Witts smashed Callum around the ground too: 14 disposals to 8, and 5 marks to 2.

    It was good to have Sinclair back, as he's better than the other non-Naismith options we've been using, but his limitations were evident last night. He'll get beaten by most genuine ruckmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBloods View Post
    The game went about as expected, with the pleasant surprise of Hayward rediscovering his touch and ET showing some promise on debut.

    As I have said many times, anyone who thinks Florent and Rowbottom are the future of our midfield are in for a rude awakening. There is no more damning statement than being moved out of the midfield after doing nothing all game.

    How can we clone Parker four times over?
    I hope I am proven wrong, but I can't see Florent taking the next step. He is in his fourth year and is yet to really stamp his mark with a consistent run of high quality games. Simpkin, Berry, English and Perryman were all taken around him (not to mention McLuggage, McGrath and Taranto) and it would be safe to say, they are all tracking much further.

    I think it's too early to tell about Rowbottom but I see more spark in him then Florent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBloods View Post
    As I have said many times, anyone who thinks Florent and Rowbottom are the future of our midfield are in for a rude awakening.
    I'm one of those people. If I remember, I'll let you know when I wake up.

    They're allowed an off night. I read Stephen Coniglio hasn't been playing lately. Parker was off last week. It happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waswan View Post
    Midfield coach needs a G up.
    Combination and tap in the centre are one thing, how most sides can walk away, in numbers, from a ballup around the ground against us is alarming
    My hobby horse. The number of times the ball went to a player on his own at around the ground stoppages was breath taking. I was trying to work out how we set up at throw ins but gave up. By the way they strolled out of the centre with ease also.

    And the lack of talking when the ball went forward as 4 or 5 Swans flew for a mark with no one over the back. It is pretty basic stuff that not many contested pack marks are taken so why is there no one front and back at a marking contest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattW View Post
    I just noticed this on the AFL match feed:

    "In the 51 ruck contests that Jarrod Witts and Callum Sinclair contested against each other, Witts won hitouts-to-advantage 10 to three, [Gold Coast] won the clearances 26 to 13 and Gold Coast outscored Sydney 4.2.26 to 1.1.7."

    And Witts smashed Callum around the ground too: 14 disposals to 8, and 5 marks to 2.

    It was good to have Sinclair back, as he's better than the other non-Naismith options we've been using, but his limitations were evident last night. He'll get beaten by most genuine ruckmen.
    Stark statistics indeed but where were our blokes and why week in and week out we haven't learned to rove to losing rucks.

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    For all the doomsayers out there, consider these facts:
    The number of career senior games from yesterday's losing Swans side -
    10 with less than 50 (4 with less than 5)
    7 with >50 but <100
    Only 2 with >150.

    With numbers like that I think we're still competitive and the future looks OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nico View Post
    My hobby horse. The number of times the ball went to a player on his own at around the ground stoppages was breath taking. I was trying to work out how we set up at throw ins but gave up. By the way they strolled out of the centre with ease also.

    And the lack of talking when the ball went forward as 4 or 5 Swans flew for a mark with no one over the back. It is pretty basic stuff that not many contested pack marks are taken so why is there no one front and back at a marking contest.
    Agreed.

    It was a better game to watch then last week, but we were slaughtered in the centre bounces. It was very frustrating to watch them take the ball away with hardly any pressure.

    Parker battled his guts out all day virtually single handed. McVeigh (I believe he is the mids coach) needs to look at the planning and positioning of players in centre bounces.

    But we are a very young side and as long as we keep developing our younger players and with returning taller players (hopefully) we can look to the future with some hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markwebbos View Post
    Derm has really got it in for Rampe
    Not a fan of Dermott but he thought he praised him for his footy smarts

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    Obviously this week's loss was more enjoyable than last week's, but I still would take our game against Richmond ahead of North's game against them last night. It wasn't a spectacle but we gave ourselves a slim chance to win and might have if we had kicked straighter.

    Then again, 707 might say it was foolhardy and may cost us pick 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waswan View Post
    Midfield coach needs a G up.
    Combination and tap in the centre are one thing, how most sides can walk away, in numbers, from a ballup around the ground against us is alarming
    Florent and Rowbottom are normally the ones who do pretty well at this. Got pantsed yesterday. It's our biggest Achilles heel against quick talented teams e.g. Suns, Bulldogs etc. Especially when we have no real ruck presence. First game this year, admitted against the Crows, Naismith gave us first use in clearances. Now it's a constant struggle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood Fever View Post
    Not a fan of Dermott but he thought he praised him for his footy smarts
    I thought he was calling him a cheat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nico View Post
    Stark statistics indeed but where were our blokes and why week in and week out we haven't learned to rove to losing rucks.
    Roving to a losing ruck isn't easy. If it was, there would be no demand for blue chip (or even just capable) ruckmen.

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