The Bob Skilton Medal this Thursday night.
Some predictions:
Bob Skilton Medallist - Luke Parker
Adam Goodes Trophy (Second Best and Fairest) - Callum Mills
Peter Bedford Trophy (Third Best and Fairest) - Jordan Dawson
Paul Kelly Players' Player - Callum Mills
Rising Star Award - Errol Gulden
Dennis Carroll Award for Most Improved - Justin McInerney
Barry Round Best Clubman Award - Tom Hickey
Hard to argue!Originally Posted by MattW
Nice work, reckon you've nailed them
Think Dawson might do better than third and could win most improved too. He has gone up a level this year.
I'm in agreement too. Nice work!
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I was just wondering when and where this event would take place and found this: 2021 Club Champion Online Stream (sydneyswans.com.au). It doesn't say where or how they're going to do it - but it will be this Thursday night and it will be streamed. I was thinking that they might try and keep the playing group together until then before they all go their separate ways for the off-season but then I realised that even if they did that they still won't be able to gather together in Melbourne for presentation event. So maybe not.
It would be nice if we get to see a bit of the players during the stream - and not just when they interview the people who win awards.
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In the process of wondering who my top ten might be, I did prepare this chart, on how our players fared in the coaches votes award.
coaches votes.PNG
The 'Scoring Rounds' refers to the number of times that each player got a vote.
One thing that I noticed in my pondering, was that last year, I was struggling to come up with ten players who really deserved to be in the top ten. This year, the opposite is true, in that there will be players who have had very good years, who won't make the top ten.
I think Nick Blakey is the most improved.
I forgot to mention, that there'd probably only be a moderate correlation between the Coaches Votes and the Skilton, since in each round, a lot more players can get votes in the Skilton. And by the way, the only game in which none of our players got a vote from the coaches, was in our loss to Hawthorn.
I'll be surprised if Mills comes second. He may well rank second in terms of mean votes per game played, but the Swans system makes it hard to finish near the top if you've missed more than a game or two. Mills missed (at least) four, and only played a half of one game (though he'll probably receive healthy votes for that half game).
I expect Mr B&F-Consistency - Jake Lloyd - to finish top 3. He missed just the one game, I believe. He almost never has a bad game, and even if some on here aren't enthusiastic about his role, he clearly plays it to the coaches' expectations. Pretty much every week.
Hickey should vote strongly, though the handful of games he missed will, like Mills, count against him. I still think he might creep into the top 5.
The other two I think are a very good chance to finish top 5 are Papley and Dawson. They weren't as consistent as Lloyd (or Mills and Hickey, when they played), but their best was pretty damned good, and even their mediocre was decent enough.
Cunningham, Hewett, McCartin are all players who played all games (or close to all games) and were pretty consistent. Especially Cunningham.
McInerney is another who could sneak in.
Heeney and Buddy were the opposite in that they both missed games, had quiet games and some outstanding games. Both will get some big scores and some small scores (and nil scores). Will their big scores be enough to sneak them into the top 10?
My prediction
Parker
Lloyd
Papley
Hickey
Dawson
Mills
Cunningham
McCartin
Heeney
McInerney
I think Parker will win the Players' Player award.
Errol as Rising Star is a no-brainer unless they change their own eligibility rules and criteria (again) and make McInerney eligible. I suspect they'll keep them as last year, making McInerney likely for the most improved, though McCartin is another likely candidate.
I think Liz’s interpretation of the issue re Mills is right.
I’ll go:
Parker
Dawson
Lloyd
Mills
Heeney
Papley
Hickey
McCartin
McInerney
Franklin
RS: Gulden
MI: McCartin
PP: Parker
Clubman: Cunningham
P.S: Liz, apologies for putting the Marion Skilton stuff in wrong spot, and thanks for remedying.
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There's no right or wrong. Just thought it deserved its own thread, and reckon this one will get a bit of traffic over the next 28 hours. Figured it was worth separating them.
As a general comment, if someone isn't sure that they are posting something in the best thread, it's often a sign that it warrants a thread of its own. If not, it can always be merged into an existing thread. It is (marginally) quicker for me to merge two threads together than it is to split a thread in two.
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