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    Quote Originally Posted by stevoswan View Post
    I think we'd all like to see Gould at some stage soon....before he cracks the @@@@'s and heads back to SA.
    Gould must be pretty substandard not being able to break into this side

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    Quote Originally Posted by H2F View Post
    Gould must be pretty substandard not being able to break into this side
    He is pidgeon holed as a defender. Try him up forward?

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    Quote Originally Posted by H2F View Post
    Gould must be pretty substandard not being able to break into this side
    Fitness too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevoswan View Post
    I think we'd all like to see Gould at some stage soon....before he cracks the @@@@'s and heads back to SA.
    Walk up start at the Adelaide Cows.

    They will be talking to Will and/or his manager on a regular basis, they confirmed it's what they did with Dawson, and I think what they do with most SA players interstate, just see how they are going and letting them know the door is open.

    Will doesn't have a contract for 2023, Stephens does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 707 View Post
    Walk up start at the Adelaide Cows.

    They will be talking to Will and/or his manager on a regular basis, they confirmed it's what they did with Dawson, and I think what they do with most SA players interstate, just see how they are going and letting them know the door is open.

    Will doesn't have a contract for 2023, Stephens does.
    I’ve never seen so much written about a reserves player who has never, in three years played an outstanding game that screams you’ll have to pick me. If Adelaide think he’s so good they would have offered him a contract at the end of last year before we gave him a crumb off the table.
    Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueSwan View Post
    Because it is a team sport and no one wins everything?
    and what does the rest of the team do when this one player has the ball? Just sit back and watch? No, they have to do those things "off the ball" that many coaches appear to rate.
    One player ? Its lots of players . Need more than just 1 involved in a passage to get from ruck contest / kick in to goal . Cmon. You cant get a goal without players getting their hands on the ball in the first place . We are 15th in the comp for disposals . Not good enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nico View Post
    He is pidgeon holed as a defender. Try him up forward?
    Some take some time. Dawson took a while in the ressies didn't he? Not as long as Gould, but still. The most frustrated has to be Will himself.

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    It bewilders me when fans think that selection should be based on appeasing young players in the 2s so that they don't leave the club. For someone to be appeased and given a go in the 1s, someone else has to be dropped to the 2s. It's a nil sum game. Just pick players who deserve it and who give us the best chance of winning. The only time I would go away from this selection policy is when we are no longer in the hunt for a top 8 position and it may be beneficial to give some young players a development opportunity while senior players manage niggles or go for surgery. We aren't there yet so pick the best team and beat the Bulldogs.

    FWIW, I have been a bit of a critic of Wicks before. However, I do see some correlation between our best performances when he is in the team and playing well. Therefore, I'll put my hand up and admit that I've underrated the role of the pressure forward. Campbell needs time to develop as a future midfielder so I would drop him and play Wicks for the rest of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AB Swannie View Post
    It bewilders me when fans think that selection should be based on appeasing young players in the 2s so that they don't leave the club. For someone to be appeased and given a go in the 1s, someone else has to be dropped to the 2s. It's a nil sum game. Just pick players who deserve it and who give us the best chance of winning. The only time I would go away from this selection policy is when we are no longer in the hunt for a top 8 position and it may be beneficial to give some young players a development opportunity while senior players manage niggles or go for surgery. We aren't there yet so pick the best team and beat the Bulldogs.

    FWIW, I have been a bit of a critic of Wicks before. However, I do see some correlation between our best performances when he is in the team and playing well. Therefore, I'll put my hand up and admit that I've underrated the role of the pressure forward. Campbell needs time to develop as a future midfielder so I would drop him and play Wicks for the rest of the season.
    Agree with all of the above

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    Quote Originally Posted by AB Swannie View Post
    It bewilders me when fans think that selection should be based on appeasing young players in the 2s so that they don't leave the club. For someone to be appeased and given a go in the 1s, someone else has to be dropped to the 2s. It's a nil sum game. Just pick players who deserve it and who give us the best chance of winning. The only time I would go away from this selection policy is when we are no longer in the hunt for a top 8 position and it may be beneficial to give some young players a development opportunity while senior players manage niggles or go for surgery. We aren't there yet so pick the best team and beat the Bulldogs.

    FWIW, I have been a bit of a critic of Wicks before. However, I do see some correlation between our best performances when he is in the team and playing well. Therefore, I'll put my hand up and admit that I've underrated the role of the pressure forward. Campbell needs time to develop as a future midfielder so I would drop him and play Wicks for the rest of the season.
    He may have been ok in a couple of games but in others he was awful. Please forget him- we need to look elsewhere!

    Agree the role can be useful, but we need players who can do it week in week out. This is the coaches’ job, surely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H2F View Post
    Gould must be pretty substandard not being able to break into this side
    He is

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    Last 2 weeks we laid more F50 tackles than anytime in the last 6 weeks. Wicks isnt the answer.

    Accuracy cost us, plain and simple.
    We kick straight and no one is talking about our Fwd Line.

    An issue I do see is pressure at stoppages around the ground (not centre bounce) its like we gamble for a clearance win with no defensive structure. Essendon jogged and moved the ball out of clearances with numbers and ease

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