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    Elimination Final vs Carlton at MCG, Friday 8 September 2023, 7:50 PM

    Both teams coming off a loss.

    Not feeling very positive about this game, with our fourth quarter fade outs.

    Newman in All Australian contention as is Curnow.

    We hopefully get McInerney and Papley back.

    Out Clarke and maybe Fox?

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    Also not feeling great about this game due to our last quarter fadeouts AND because the Blues will have a ton of media, hype, excitement and rabid fans behind them which could translate into some unfair/pro-Vic umpiring.

    Out of the Blues, Saints and GWS, Carlton were my least fave for us to play due to this hype and I think they've been close to the best team in the comp in the second half of this year.

    For personnel, I'd have Clarke make way for Papley, with McInerney to play as sub for Francis. Given our last quarter fade outs I think it's crucial we actually play our sub and ensure they're both quick and an impact player - a role I think Juzzy can do. Additionally he needs some gametime and with no VFL, playing him as a sub is an ok compromise here.

    As a sidenote I think we are tacitically the worst team when it comes to our sub choices (Francis and Clarke as subs?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by longmile View Post

    As a sidenote I think we are tacitically the worst team when it comes to our sub choices (Francis and Clarke as subs?)
    It isn't tacit at all, it is bleeding obvious! (yeah, I know, a typo hehe)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maltopia View Post
    It isn't tacit at all, it is bleeding obvious! (yeah, I know, a typo hehe)
    Re subs- My dad used to say you can’t pull your socks up if you don’t have any on. Not much outside the top 22 to call on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Cat View Post
    Re subs- My dad used to say you can’t pull your socks up if you don’t have any on. Not much outside the top 22 to call on.
    We have these players to choose from to replace players in the side;

    Papley
    McInerney
    Corey Warner
    Arnold (has played very well in reserves)
    Buller (has played very well in the reserves)
    Hall-Khan (an outsider)

    Any of these options would be preferable to Clarke. The fact is Clarke is limited by his incapacity to think quickly. He takes far too long to think about options and then turns the ball over. Just not quite skilled enough at this level. As much as Corey warner did not get much ball last time not did Clarke. at least Warner uses it reasonably well and can get out of a situation using his pace. Just a little light for AFL atm.

    MaInerney will come back with Papley.

    Who goes out?

    These players were poor last week;

    Fox
    Clarke
    Harry
    Will (although I don't think it was entirely his fault as the delivery was crap)
    Amartey (first game after hamstring strain but led to the contest far too often)
    McLean (kept running under the ball or led to the ball by opponent)
    Parker (23 @ 47.8% is not so good. Wasted over 50% of that 23 so only about 10 effective disposals)

    If these players improve their games this week then we will be a far better side and harder to beat. But we need to find some endurance from somewhere because Cripps & Co will run & run & run. I wish Parker, Papley, Heeney, Chad & Millsy had Gulden & Rowie's endurance.

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    Keep forgetting it’s 11 days away .
    Will Paps be right by then ?

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    Even though we are limping into the finals, of all the other finalists, our game style probably works best against Carlton, and we did beat them in round 10.

    If we can get an early lead, they will mentally collapse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barry View Post
    Even though we are limping into the finals, of all the other finalists, our game style probably works best against Carlton, and we did beat them in round 10.

    If we can get an early lead, they will mentally collapse.
    I think you are right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barry View Post
    Even though we are limping into the finals, of all the other finalists, our game style probably works best against Carlton, and we did beat them in round 10.

    If we can get an early lead, they will mentally collapse.
    Tend to agree, generally speaking. I think John's the better coach, too.

    Last time we tagged Cripps with Heeney to great effect, but were without Mills. I think we need Heeney to play forward this time and Mills can go to him.

    I do wonder whether we might go a little smaller and omit Amartey, who looks like he's labouring a little and hasn't been effective for a while.

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    Clearly if the Swans are cactus by 3/4 time when leading they need some incentive (despite how knackered).
    Like if they win the final quarter , they all get a free E bike for Christmas (then they won’t get tired during the pre-season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotpotato View Post
    Clearly if the Swans are cactus by 3/4 time when leading they need some incentive (despite how knackered).
    Like if they win the final quarter , they all get a free E bike for Christmas (then they won’t get tired during the pre-season.
    And/or a McDonalds voucher.

    Nice post Wolfy. One other thing: how about our forwards play in front. Many times Melbourne had front position and took the mark. If the ball is coming in quickly you have to be in front. If the ball comes to ground you have the first chance at the footy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nico View Post
    And/or a McDonalds voucher.

    Nice post Wolfy. One other thing: how about our forwards play in front. Many times Melbourne had front position and took the mark. If the ball is coming in quickly you have to be in front. If the ball comes to ground you have the first chance at the footy.
    Agree totally. We were playing from behind. I can't understand why Longmire allowed them to play 3 behind the ball? why not match them up? We could not get the ball out due to that.

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