Read a report in the Age that suggested it would be Martin out (his contract ends this year and he's 29) and Hayward in. Probably makes sense.Originally Posted by giant
Love Wilbur but you save 6 year deals for the very best players on your list and we already have several locked away.
If it’s a 6 year offer it’s an offer that Hayward “can’t refuse” and the Swans “can’t match”. May be a good end of round 1 compensation pick for a 6 year offer. Three late 1st round draft picks for the 2024 draft would be handy.
Talking about failed draft picks. Will Gould was taken in the 20s and despite huge support on Red and White didn’t make it as a player. Elijah Taylor was taken in the 20s and he was an unmitigated disaster.
Speculation they have a 6 x $800k offer in front of him. On the AFL's compensation formula, you'd think that would trigger a decent 1st round pick based on what Norf received for Ben McKay? Unfortunately the AFL is not consistent with this & use it as a form of equalisation.
Tom Morris has reported numerous clubs are interested in Hayward & hence he has parked negotiations till later in the season. Could be tactic to extract maximum coin on new Swans contract?
Hope hope stays to fulfill flag quest for club he has played for 8 seasons. Could sign short term contact that takes him to UFA & review his options then.
Re possible compensation should Hayward for six years at 800K…
No way AFL gives us an end of first round pick, especially if we are top four at season end.
Franklin on 10 years got the Hawks pick 18 or so.
North getting pick 3 for McAverage was a typical rort by the AFL to try and help a basket case team.
Under the current secret recipe (the exact details of which are kept hidden), the length of contract is not a factor in determining compensation. It's the annual contract amount. That has led clubs to manipulate by enticing a player with an initial shortish term deal on high annual payments to trigger a higher compensation pick for the club losing the player with (probably) a tacit agreement that they will then extend the contract on a lower amount. (See Brisbane and Joe Daniher.)
This is something the AFL is looking to change, so that the length of contract would become a factor. I don't really understand why they don't look at total dollars a club is prepared to commit to attract the player, which encapsulates both annual amount and amount per year.
Regardless of how the recipe changes, Franklin attracted a first tier pick, which arrives after the loser club's natural first round pick. However, because the Hawks won the premiership in the year they lost Franklin, the effect was the same as them receiving an end of first round pick (tier two). McKay, Lynch, Frawley, Daniher and Zac Williams all attracted tier one compensation picks. Lynch was worth it. The others are questionable, although, in the case of Williams, Carlton did give him a contract that was both high dollars and long-term (something they maybe regret now, given how little football they have got out of him).
There is no way anyone is going to pay Hayward enough to get a tier one pick. And there would be something wrong with the system if they did. But he might well attract a tier two pick, especially if there are lots of clubs chasing his signature. I believe Jade Gresham scored St Kilda a tier two compensation pick last year and, while Gresham's best is pretty good (as is Hayward's as we have been recently reminded of), I don't think it's hard to argue that Hayward's overall contribution has been stronger than Gresham's over the year or two before they became free agents.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1051693/...ham-makes-move
Other players who secured their losing clubs a tier two compensation pick (from memory and off the top of my head) include Brad Crouch, Tom Doedee and Steven Motlop.
It is possible that even recent past compensation picks aren't a good guide to what might be granted in the future (including 2024) because this is one of the many things the AFL is reviewing. There are some who argue that tier one compensation should start at the end of the first round to avoid dilution of picks for struggling clubs (see Ben McKay and North's pick). That would likely push tier two back to mid second round.
The AFL might also recalibrate tiers and dollars to account for the rising cap, something they attracted criticism for not doing last year. In other words, they measured the contract values offered to moving players against the historic payment tiers in the competition, not taking account of the significant increase in cap that was, no doubt, already factored into some of the contracts these moving players were offered.
Parker was not picked for tonight’s game based on the coaching staff believing he’s not in the best midfield. It’s its 3rd game back. It’s not a match fitness related issue.
Should we be trying to trade Parker for a similar pick that Collingwood obtained for Taylor Adam’s?
He’s got a healthy salary next year that we should be clearing from the books. Should we look for a late 2nd round pick and pay about $200,000 of his salary next season?
still one of our best players,needs to be in side.
NO.
Heard a rumour he has an issue with playing group ?
Any else heard ?
Was a decent source
Id be surprised, but who knows they are humans after all.
Keep him primed for next week. I doubt there are issues. He is just too similar to Adams. Maybe at some stage Adams will be rested.
Geese Freeo must want Warner and McDonald
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