Calling for brotherly love (Jarrad McVeigh article)

[Thunder Shaker]

Article in the Herald Sun about the McVeigh brothers.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/foo...E19742,00.html

[Tilt]

I hope the rumours aren't true that we're going after Mark McVeigh at the end of the year.

[Glenn]

Wouldn't read into it to much, we were linked with McVeigh last year and nothing came of it

[Cher]

Re: Calling for brotherly love (Jarrad McVeigh article)

Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
Article in the Herald Sun about the McVeigh brothers.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/foo...E19742,00.html

Different picture in the actual paper..

[midaro]

This is a recurring issue. The problem with it is that it has the potential to bite us firmly on the arse. For example:

Which is the case (or best approximation)?

(A) Mark is homesick and wants to return to Sydney.

(B) The McVeigh brothers are as close as brothers get (without criminality), and just want to play together (in any team).

Now, if it's 'A' - fine, we can choose to take Mark or not, at our whim. Offer Essendon a 4th round pick, and let Mark take 1 year contracts until Essendon give up, (or alternatively, try to screw them entirely with some pre-season draft manipulation - "I only want to play in Sydney").

However, if it's 'B' we may have a problem. Say Jarrad developes into the midfielder we deperately need, only to decide he wants to join Mark at Essendon. That is, he decides he'd rather play somewhere else with his brother, rather than by himself at home. Now, that reversal of circumstance, has the potential to totally stuff us up, especially given the current state of our midfield.

So, IMO we should bite the bullet and actually pay a reasonable price for Mark - just to be sure. I don't believe Essendon could really ask for more than our second round pick (c.25-30) .

Is that really too much?

I don't believe that AFL recruiting has yet developed the sophistication to guarantee that Pick 25 will typically result in a significantly better player than Pick 40, anyway. IMO after the top 10-15 picks, the draft is largely pot luck.

BTW, IMO Mark McVeigh would be in out best 22. His experience would currently put him ahead of Ablett, Buchannon, Fixter (and even Bevan), and I'm certain he's a better player than Fosdike; very likely Mathews too.

[ScottH]

I just hope that if we do get him, it is coz he wants to come so that puts the pressure on the Dons to come up with a suitable trade, as opposed to us chasing him, where the dons could put the screws on us for a top player or high draft pick.

We need to get him as a bargain, but the dons have a history of getting good deals.

[Snowy]

trade with Essendon at your peril is a handy motto. At the very most is worth a second draft pick and that is debateable. If we wants to leave Essendon, it is a fair guess it is to go home to Sydney so the Dons have no bargaining power.

[hird_god]

Originally posted by midaro
The McVeigh brothers are as close as brothers get (without criminality), and just want to play together (in any team).
given the current state of our midfield.

The brothers are very close, reportedly phone each other before and after there respective matches to see how they're going.
Also, apparantly Jarryd came along on our end of season trip last season with Mark. Essendon were very interested in taking him but you guys got him too early in the draft.

So, IMO we should bite the bullet and actually pay a reasonable price for Mark - just to be sure. I don't believe Essendon could really ask for more than our second round pick (c.25-30) .

If Mark was to leave sheedy would try and work a trade to get a player from you or another club, I guarantee it. We don't get value just trading Mark, so we'll add a draft pick or player and/or involve a third club to get a reasonable outcome. Ala Jacobs wanting out last year at the last minute, Sheeds worked a gem in convincing Hawthorn/Bulldogs into a great trade for us.

Is that really too much?

Its about right IMO.

BTW, IMO Mark McVeigh would be in out best 22. His experience would currently put him ahead of Ablett, Buchannon, Fixter (and even Bevan), and I'm certain he's a better player than Fosdike; very likely Mathews too.

I see no reason why he wouldn't be in your best side, he has quality skills and pace and great determination. His disposal into the forward line is close to the best at our club, behind Rioli/Hird.
I rate him very highly and desperatley hope he stays.

[Charlie]

25-30 is about right. If we kept that pick and got a player who could contribute as much as McVeigh in his first year, we'd be over the moon, yes? So what's the problem?

Essendon fans on Bigfooty tend to talk about Saddington, O'Keefe and Bolton. In each case, I can scarcely believe they say it.

[Bleed Red Blood]

What if we did recruit M Mcveigh and he wasn't in our best 22? Would we still play him?I think this is a problem faced by the Roos with the Harveys at the moment.

[Snowy]

you're right bleed red blood, recruiting Shane Harvey cost the Roos Davey and now Brent is off-side with Laidley anyway.

[swansrule100]

please dont get mark mcveigh!!! hes a dud and would be as good as scott russell!

[Dpw]

If a Second round draft pick is all they want then I can't see why not, I agree with Charlie.

[swansrule100]

essendon are gonna give him away that easily??

if they are he cant be much

sheedys been around too long to basically give away good players

[Damien]

Originally posted by swansrule100
essendon are gonna give him away that easily??

if they are he cant be much

sheedys been around too long to basically give away good players

Essendon have been lucky enough to have some great great superstars that keep their club very competitive - this makes the whole team look better than they are, therefore I think clubs have rushed into trading with Essendon without thinking.

Hoping the Swans don't do this (Again!).