Match thread: Swans v Giants.

[Velour&Ruffles]

It seems like every few months, he comes up with a new way to be a grub. And he's obviously the main beneficiary of the AFL's strange decision a while back, to not have any cumulative penalties for illegal acts. He just keeps on committing cheap shot after cheap shot and each time it's treated as a first offence.

And there's the comparison that can be made to the Heeney suspension of last year. Heeney did the sort of push off, that would happen many times in a game without penalty, but hit the St Kilda player in the head, because he was unaware that player had slipped over. Despite being unintentional contact to the head, Heeney got a week. Here, it looks like Greene attempted to kick Rampe in the nuts, but since Rampe was still walking around, he probably missed. So, because the contact was more likely to have been to the upper, inner thigh, will the AFL decide that everything's fine?

Great comment. The rules are farcical at the moment and desperately need fixing. Greene's (typically) revolting little effort was in no way a football act, but it transpires tonight that the AFL has said "move on, nothing to see". Even though he had no intention other than to hurt someone if he could. Yet Heeney's pure football act, albeit with an unintended and entirely accidental consequence, gets penalised. What a complete shemozzle this system has become. The AFL is a joke but they are too up themselves to realize they should be embarrassed by their own incompetence.

[UUaswan]

What is the issue? The only thing Ican see is the Bloods cannot handle when the other side become physical and start throwing their weight around.

Teams squeeze us and only defend centre side of the 50 as it isnt going in there with no fwd to kick too

[crackedactor 01]

Our player had nothing to play for and it looked like it. Great first half. Then our blokes totally trashed the Bloods Culture Brand. There was nothing. not even a whimper. They looked like they were playing a Grand final. This is pathetic. If they don't want to go out and play for the guernsey and fight and die for the colours, then they can eff off and go elsewhere. Our so called stars went totally missing in the second half. Heeney, Warner, McInerney, Jordan, Blakey (truthfully, this was one of his worst games but it may be because he was playing a lock down role yet again), Rowie, Gus, Papley all went missing. I am not going to blame the forwards, the ball never wentr in there, or the backs, they were under huge pressure as the ball came in without any pressure what so ever. These so called stars must have thought they were playing in a Grand Final, after all they don't turn up in them. Papley went to the mids and got nothing. He needs to shut his gob until he can produce at least a fair performance. His game was more the underwhelming, it was trash. Aaron Francis is not even near it as a forward. He lacks confidence. The only players to stand up, Grundy, Buller, Wil and the backs tried, especially Wicks and Melican, but were inundated.

What is the issue? The only thing Ican see is the Bloods cannot handle when the other side become physical and start throwing their weight around.

[dejavoodoo44]

AFL (Greg Swann) have came to the conclusion that Toby's kick didn't make contact, so he won't be cited. Even so, not even a fine for his grubby NON football act!!!

Agree with Heeney's accidental FOOTBALL action last year and suspension being a travesty in comparison!

Yes, unsuccessful attempt to kick someone in the nuts: no problem, not even a fine. Unsuccessful attempt to push in the chest: suspension.

[KSAS]

It seems like every few months, he comes up with a new way to be a grub. And he's obviously the main beneficiary of the AFL's strange decision a while back, to not have any cumulative penalties for illegal acts. He just keeps on committing cheap shot after cheap shot and each time it's treated as a first offence.

And there's the comparison that can be made to the Heeney suspension of last year. Heeney did the sort of push off, that would happen many times in a game without penalty, but hit the St Kilda player in the head, because he was unaware that player had slipped over. Despite being unintentional contact to the head, Heeney got a week. Here, it looks like Greene attempted to kick Rampe in the nuts, but since Rampe was still walking around, he probably missed. So, because the contact was more likely to have been to the upper, inner thigh, will the AFL decide that everything's fine?

AFL (Greg Swann) have came to the conclusion that Toby's kick didn't make contact, so he won't be cited. Even so, not even a fine for his grubby NON football act!!!

Agree with Heeney's accidental FOOTBALL action last year and suspension being a travesty in comparison!

[wolftone57]

Our player had nothing to play for and it looked like it. Great first half. Then our blokes totally trashed the Bloods Culture Brand. There was nothing. not even a whimper. They looked like they were playing a Grand final. This is pathetic. If they don't want to go out and play for the guernsey and fight and die for the colours, then they can eff off and go elsewhere. Our so called stars went totally missing in the second half. Heeney, Warner, McInerney, Jordan, Blakey (truthfully, this was one of his worst games but it may be because he was playing a lock down role yet again), Rowie, Gus, Papley all went missing. I am not going to blame the forwards, the ball never wentr in there, or the backs, they were under huge pressure as the ball came in without any pressure what so ever. These so called stars must have thought they were playing in a Grand Final, after all they don't turn up in them. Papley went to the mids and got nothing. He needs to shut his gob until he can produce at least a fair performance. His game was more the underwhelming, it was trash. Aaron Francis is not even near it as a forward. He lacks confidence. The only players to stand up, Grundy, Buller, Wil and the backs tried, especially Wicks and Melican, but were inundated.

[dejavoodoo44]

Toby Greene might cited by for a 2nd indescretion by the AFL, for a back kick to Rampe's groin area at start of the game. Vision from behind the goals was shown on FC last night, which panel thought is not good and Toby Greene should cop another week's suspension.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/it...7b24b4e160149e

It seems like every few months, he comes up with a new way to be a grub. And he's obviously the main beneficiary of the AFL's strange decision a while back, to not have any cumulative penalties for illegal acts. He just keeps on committing cheap shot after cheap shot and each time it's treated as a first offence.

And there's the comparison that can be made to the Heeney suspension of last year. Heeney did the sort of push off, that would happen many times in a game without penalty, but hit the St Kilda player in the head, because he was unaware that player had slipped over. Despite being unintentional contact to the head, Heeney got a week. Here, it looks like Greene attempted to kick Rampe in the nuts, but since Rampe was still walking around, he probably missed. So, because the contact was more likely to have been to the upper, inner thigh, will the AFL decide that everything's fine?

[KSAS]

Toby Greene might cited by for a 2nd indescretion by the AFL, for a back kick to Rampe's groin area at start of the game. Vision from behind the goals was shown on FC last night, which panel thought is not good and Toby Greene should cop another week's suspension.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/its-a-nogo-giants-captain-busted-in-apparent-dirty-act/news-story/61336ef742f529b06f7b24b4e160149e

[UUaswan]

In short yes. Age is no barrier as long as you don’t loose your pace. Collingwood are the perfect example. You only give one year contracts, and experienced players help the younger ones develop

the big caveat for keeping him for me is as long as Cox doesn't think he is a fwd

Wouldnt be too happy if he was best 22 at the start of the year either

[BRS328]

No issue with Hamling as a defender, in fact said multiple times, when he plays alongside Melican and Tom Mc it works wonders for Blakey

Next year he is 33, played what 10 games in 3 yrs ? Is that worth hanging onto instead of playing a kid coming thru ?

Firmly believe we need 3 tall defenders plus Blakey and 3 tall fwds one of whom is a Ruck

In short yes. Age is no barrier as long as you don’t loose your pace. Collingwood are the perfect example. You only give one year contracts, and experienced players help the younger ones develop

[dejavoodoo44]

had friends over thank god !!!!!!

Didnt see the game.

didnt see that coming rrrrrrrrr

If you watch a replay, it could still be quite enjoyable, if you turn it off at half-time.

[Auntie.Gerald]

had friends over thank god !!!!!!

Didnt see the game.

didnt see that coming rrrrrrrrr

[UUaswan]

I'm not going to pretend I'm a coach or have your 'coaching knowledge'.....but seriously, show me a perfect coach. They don't exist.....Roos maybe.

I'm sure Dean will learn from his first full season as a senior coach and with hopefully a full squad at his disposal, will be able to coach as he 'should' next year.

I've never called for Cox's head but as a club we need to get out of this defensive mindset. We recruited running talent for over 8 yrs yet we still play like is 2012.

Heeney/Warner/Gulden/Blakey.... We should be taking every team on head to head

[UUaswan]

Hamling was doing a great job on Hogan until he got injured early in the third quarter. It was one of the turning points in the game. The only tall we had on the backline was Melican

No issue with Hamling as a defender, in fact said multiple times, when he plays alongside Melican and Tom Mc it works wonders for Blakey

Next year he is 33, played what 10 games in 3 yrs ? Is that worth hanging onto instead of playing a kid coming thru ?

Firmly believe we need 3 tall defenders plus Blakey and 3 tall fwds one of whom is a Ruck

[BRS328]

Time for some calls for next year

Hamling/Francis/Lloyd, if they are still holding out players next year from the 22 we have no chance

Ramps, great servant, time to go

Jmac, salvagable, needs to improve or be overtaken, Cleary, Ollie very similar.

Rowy, simply doesnt do enough as a mid, not sure if he is ever going to be a 25 touch mid or where that would even leave him ? We moved Hewett on who was that same player with twice the possessions

Ladhams or Green need to play

Roberts, Sheldrick have shown potential, still very young

Braeden needs to go into the middle or at least be told to have a shot fwd of centre, give him the same licence Warner had when he was starting out

If we persist with Blakey in defence, he needs to play alongside 3 tall defenders. You cant have your razor thin, rolls royce jumping into and crashing packs. Put him on a wing


From the 2s worth a shot - Datolli, Hannily, Warner, Bice, Mitchell but when we pick them we need to let them play.
Take the blinkers off and let them off the tracks.... Look at this Angwin kid for GWS,never heard of him, 20 games, pick 20, 25 touches, let them play, if I see Corey or Cleary come in and get 5 touches after chasing it in the 2s I'll throw up

Hamling was doing a great job on Hogan until he got injured early in the third quarter. It was one of the turning points in the game. The only tall we had on the backline was Melican