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  • imuninformedtwo
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    • Aug 2024
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    Match Thread Rd 21 vs StKilda

    And we’re back!
  • dejavoodoo44
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    • Apr 2015
    • 9746

    #2
    Now we might be?

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    • Velour&Ruffles
      Regular in the Side
      • Jun 2006
      • 960

      #3
      Interesting. I don’t think we are. It was a very enjoyable last quarter but before that we were making poor decisions and executing badly. Same old story - good enough to beat mid-range teams but too mid-range ourselves to beat really good teams. There were some pleasing signs (McDonald, Bice, Campbell all stepped up, plus Cootee really showed something) but nothing I saw would have had Freo too concerned. I’m not trying to be a doom and gloomer, just realistic.
      I’d love someone to convince me otherwise- I want to believe.
      My opinion is objective truth in its purest form

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      • Nico
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        • Jan 2003
        • 11475

        #4
        How long do we have to suffer Rosas getting a game? Apart from a couple of ok possessions in the 3rd quarter he was bloody awful. Dropped marks, fumbled, turned the pill over and at one point clearly heard footsteps. Dattoli has been knocking down the doors in the 2's for weeks now. If we don't play him he has every right to say to his manager....get me out of here. A first round draft pick who Cox refuses to play. I thought Cox said he will play players on their form, then does the opposite with Rosas. It's not hard to see why GC let him go. Same goes for Snell.
        http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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        • cubby
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          • Jun 2024
          • 21

          #5
          Originally posted by Nico
          How long do we have to suffer Rosas getting a game? Apart from a couple of ok possessions in the 3rd quarter he was bloody awful. Dropped marks, fumbled, turned the pill over and at one point clearly heard footsteps. Dattoli has been knocking down the doors in the 2's for weeks now. If we don't play him he has every right to say to his manager....get me out of here. A first round draft pick who Cox refuses to play. I thought Cox said he will play players on their form, then does the opposite with Rosas. It's not hard to see why GC let him go. Same goes for Snell.
          I agree and would add McLean (6 disposals 0 marks). He's been a solid backup in the past , so happy to give him a mulligan for the last 2 games...Needs to have more impact, even if it's a jarring tackle, or some aggression when in the ruck....something.
          Maybe it's too late in the season to be experimenting but I also agree about Snell, he looks ready for AFL to me, love to see him get a few games.
          Thankfully we have good depth for defenders with Melican and Hamling so doubt they will go that way.
          Wicks will come in for Harry Kyle ...Not sure what they will do with Cunningham.

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          • UUaswan
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2024
            • 1206

            #6
            Originally posted by Velour&Ruffles
            Interesting. I don’t think we are. It was a very enjoyable last quarter but before that we were making poor decisions and executing badly. Same old story - good enough to beat mid-range teams but too mid-range ourselves to beat really good teams. There were some pleasing signs (McDonald, Bice, Campbell all stepped up, plus Cootee really showed something) but nothing I saw would have had Freo too concerned. I’m not trying to be a doom and gloomer, just realistic.
            I’d love someone to convince me otherwise- I want to believe.
            To repeat the last 3 months, we are screwed with this Match Committee, not a @@@@ing clue

            Freo are the benchmark, 3 games clear on top.
            They play 2 Rucks, 3 tall fwds

            None of our fwds Ruck well, Play Green 50% off the bench, Ladhams if he was available.
            Leave Mclean as a fwd, 12 possessions in 2 weeks how the @@@@ do they not see it, Curnow would have 80 goals if he had 2 permanent talls taking some of the heat of him. They can also get up the ground to be an option, I counted half a dozen times we went long to Lloyd or @@@@ing Rosas

            Melican should have come with Edwards, Blakey higher up the ground, Rampe qtr back, Mills in the middle. Freo have 3 tall fwds, you cant beat them with only 2 tall defenders.

            Last 2 weeks of Mills and Paps going thru the middle have been good.

            Ive been off Bice but he had a good crack on the weekend and defended well.

            Rosas is the new fwd Wicks, just play Datolli ffs

            In, Wicks, Melican, Green, Datolli
            Out Rosas, Edwards, Rowy, Lloyd

            Leave Kyle in, over Lloyd, Harry etc

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            • SwanSand
              Regular in the Side
              • Aug 2020
              • 590

              #7
              I am not sure we need to make too many changes. We need to get our pressure in the middle of the ground higher than it has been for the last many weeks. We were better for a half of footy over the weekend.
              But agree Rosas is not delivering on multiple fronts - Probably does not apply as much pressure, And when he does apply pressure his tackling is so soft that nobody feels threatened and certainly no one would be in September. And when he gets the footy he needs way more time to make either a good decision or to run with the ball. Based on this itself, it is time to cut him off the September list.
              Rowbottom replica would be needed, but that is an easy fix as Angus sheldrick comes in and plays that role.

              We have now got Gulden but it is a guarantee that he will get tagged in September however, if Hawks are at 3, expect Finn Maginess to be picked to tag Errol at SCG. But we would have McInerney back too by that time. So our 4 pronged ball players in the middle, 1 from back and 1 runner with Campbell is great but I agree we need another runner to create the extra number at stoppages or on turnovers. Cootee is doing well but maybe this is the time to try and see if Dattoli can be that player. Sometimes I wonder if Wicks can play the defensive Rowbottom role in the middle of the ground. The only problem may be that he is very small. But he is very consistent.

              I would make Mclean ruck more in the coming weeks or pick another player to Ruck more often and see if we get Ok service from him.

              I am hoping that McInerney comes in the next 2 weeks and gets running very soon after. He would be an excellent addition.

              Can Serong do a tagging role on Newcombe in the final ? he is good size to do that.

              In Wicks, Melican, Dattoli
              Out Rowbottom, Edwards, Rosas.

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