Team Selection R23 v Essendon @ MCG

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  • KSAS
    Senior Player
    • Mar 2018
    • 2123

    Team List Team Selection R23 v Essendon @ MCG

    IN: Grundy, Rampe
    OUT: McLean, Kyle

    McInerney is still a week away. Kyle who has been a bit quiet, makes way for Rampe.

    I'd like to give Green another run as he showed promise and see what he can provide as 2nd Ruck/Forward, but i think they'll most likely play it safe with McLean.

    Will the selectors be tempted to rest/manage Heeney?
  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9382

    #2
    IN: Grundy, Rampe, Snell
    OUT: McLean, Hamling, Heeney (rested)

    We have no chance of losing this game, so we can rest any player who can use a week off.

    It's important to get Snell into these last 2 games. Even though I was pleased to see Edwards get a shot at AFL level, I've long thought that Snell was the better prospect. I don't know if he can show enough for us to use him in the Finals, but I would like to see how he goes at this level. He's an important player for us long term. If he goes well, I would seriously consider trading Melican. I think McCartinin, Edwards and Snell will be our KPD backline next year, injuries permitting.

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    • Roadrunner
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2018
      • 1551

      #3
      Originally posted by Ludwig
      IN: Grundy, Rampe, Snell
      OUT: McLean, Hamling, Heeney (rested)

      We have no chance of losing this game, so we can rest any player who can use a week off.

      It's important to get Snell into these last 2 games. Even though I was pleased to see Edwards get a shot at AFL level, I've long thought that Snell was the better prospect. I don't know if he can show enough for us to use him in the Finals, but I would like to see how he goes at this level. He's an important player for us long term. If he goes well, I would seriously consider trading Melican. I think McCartinin, Edwards and Snell will be our KPD backline next year, injuries permitting.

      Agree with the above. We need to give Isaac a rest as he’s spent a lot of time at the coalface lately. Is there anyone else in the ressies we should consider for the last two games before the finals?

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      • UUaswan
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2024
        • 1239

        #4
        I think Paps needs a rest
        Heens can just stay fwd

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        • BRS328
          Regular in the Side
          • Feb 2018
          • 520

          #5
          Originally posted by Ludwig
          IN: Grundy, Rampe, Snell
          OUT: McLean, Hamling, Heeney (rested)

          We have no chance of losing this game, so we can rest any player who can use a week off.

          It's important to get Snell into these last 2 games. Even though I was pleased to see Edwards get a shot at AFL level, I've long thought that Snell was the better prospect. I don't know if he can show enough for us to use him in the Finals, but I would like to see how he goes at this level. He's an important player for us long term. If he goes well, I would seriously consider trading Melican. I think McCartinin, Edwards and Snell will be our KPD backline next year, injuries permitting.
          There is no way Snell will be given a game at this stage of the year. Firstly he has been out injured, and secondly the coaching staff will be looking will be looking at consolidating the team and bringing in players with senior experience and likely to be in contention for the finals.
          I feel for Snell as he deserved a chance a few weeks ago but unfortunately injury came at the wrong time.
          I cannot agree with you on dropping Hamling, he was far better than Melican last week who looked slow.

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          • SwanSand
            Regular in the Side
            • Aug 2020
            • 598

            #6
            Agree with Ludwig

            Give Heeney some rest
            I think we should give Campbell, Serong some more midfield time and see what they can do.
            No tagging please this game. Let them play and let James Jordon hunt the ball.

            Grundy to come back,
            It would not be a bad idea to see how Will Green goes in forward 50 instead of Mclean
            I think Papley, Gulden, Campbell, Wicks to get some more games under their belt. They have a 1 week off coming so no reason to rest them.
            Warner can play more forward role. And let others run the midfield to see how we go.
            Protect Gulden in Quarter 4.

            I would like to see how Charlie Curnow can drag the main defender outside f50 over the course of the match. He is playing a bit more physical but with Tom Barass I think the best Idea would be get him outside the f50 and let Logan or Mclean and smalls run amok in the f50.
            The strategy against Hawthorn is playing 3 talls apparently. They have not coped with it in a few games. But they will bring back Scrimshaw for the finals. It will be a great tactical game.

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            • UUaswan
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2024
              • 1239

              #7
              Originally posted by BRS328

              There is no way Snell will be given a game at this stage of the year. Firstly he has been out injured, and secondly the coaching staff will be looking will be looking at consolidating the team and bringing in players with senior experience and likely to be in contention for the finals.
              I feel for Snell as he deserved a chance a few weeks ago but unfortunately injury came at the wrong time.
              I cannot agree with you on dropping Hamling, he was far better than Melican last week who looked slow.
              Would play Melican, hopefully he was just rusty

              Hamling doesn't even play defence in the 2s and he looks less comfortable with the ball then the person holding the banner

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              • UUaswan
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2024
                • 1239

                #8
                Originally posted by SwanSand

                I would like to see how Charlie Curnow can drag the main defender outside f50 over the course of the match. He is playing a bit more physical but with Tom Barass I think the best Idea would be get him outside the f50 and let Logan or Mclean and smalls run amok in the f50.
                The strategy against Hawthorn is playing 3 talls apparently. They have not coped with it in a few games. But they will bring back Scrimshaw for the finals. It will be a great tactical game.
                I think the strategy against anyone is 3 tall fwds, Freo are top of ladder with 3 guys at 150 goals because no one has been able to go with them for height

                All 3 very mobile taking marks all the way upto CHB.

                Blah blah blah, they play 2 Rucks as well.

                Grundy/Green Bench cover only

                Mclean,Logan,Curnow Synergy as 3 permanent fwds.

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                • KSAS
                  Senior Player
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 2123

                  #9
                  Originally posted by KSAS
                  IN: Grundy, Rampe
                  OUT: McLean, Kyle

                  McInerney is still a week away. Kyle who has been a bit quiet, makes way for Rampe.

                  I'd like to give Green another run as he showed promise and see what he can provide as 2nd Ruck/Forward, but i think they'll most likely play it safe with McLean.

                  Will the selectors be tempted to rest/manage Heeney?
                  I'd overlooked Hamling/Melican as won't we need both. So Kyle stays to continue his development for Hamling.

                  Revised:
                  IN: Grundy, Rampe
                  OUT: McLean, Hamling.

                  Lots of interesting thoughts posted as we fine tune for the finals and secure 2nd spot. Selection will be interesting as always.

                  Hope McInerney will be right next week to get a game under his belt before the finals. I would even consider playing him in the VFL wild card round should that option present itself, as he will have been out for 10 weeks.

                  Also hope Rowbottom is ok to go for the finals and continue where he left off.

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                  • Dow
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2022
                    • 1114

                    #10
                    Originally posted by UUaswan

                    I think the strategy against anyone is 3 tall fwds, Freo are top of ladder with 3 guys at 150 goals because no one has been able to go with them for height

                    All 3 very mobile taking marks all the way upto CHB.

                    Blah blah blah, they play 2 Rucks as well.

                    Grundy/Green Bench cover only

                    Mclean,Logan,Curnow Synergy as 3 permanent fwds.
                    it would work IF we had 3 consistent key forwards BUT Mclean isn't in form and is limited, playing him as a second ruck allows us to limit the exposure he has to unbalancing the side - Max King will hopefully get that role next year and then we can play a true second ruck and have 3 dedicated forwards

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                    • UUaswan
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2024
                      • 1239

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dow

                      it would work IF we had 3 consistent key forwards BUT Mclean isn't in form and is limited, playing him as a second ruck allows us to limit the exposure he has to unbalancing the side - Max King will hopefully get that role next year and then we can play a true second ruck and have 3 dedicated forwards
                      Yeah hopefully next year King is a factor and Green is a mainstay

                      In Mcleans defence, none of our fwds have played well as a fwd and rucked. We have been exposed in the Ruck all year by the 2nd Ruck/Fwd, thats why we need to separate the roles

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                      • Dow
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2022
                        • 1114

                        #12
                        Originally posted by UUaswan

                        Yeah hopefully next year King is a factor and Green is a mainstay

                        In Mcleans defence, none of our fwds have played well as a fwd and rucked. We have been exposed in the Ruck all year by the 2nd Ruck/Fwd, thats why we need to separate the roles
                        I thought of you when i saw the team selection going with 2 rucks and smiled thinking you would be happy, i agree just wish ladhams had been fit

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                        • SwanSand
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Aug 2020
                          • 598

                          #13
                          It seems to me that with Rampe back and Hamling given a chance instead of Melican that the MC is expecting Blakey to pick up the third tall forward against good teams and play more defensive role than the offensive role and as a result we are pushing Bice to play that attacking running offensive player. I am not sure he can be as good as Blakey doing either. So we are going to get poorer quality than Blakey for offense. Mills and Rampe will be the general defenders and I suspect Rampe won’t play the attacking role at all.

                          in finals there would are traditionally less points scored off half back but is this year a bit different given the stand rule.

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                          • BRS328
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Feb 2018
                            • 520

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SwanSand
                            It seems to me that with Rampe back and Hamling given a chance instead of Melican that the MC is expecting Blakey to pick up the third tall forward against good teams and play more defensive role than the offensive role and as a result we are pushing Bice to play that attacking running offensive player. I am not sure he can be as good as Blakey doing either. So we are going to get poorer quality than Blakey for offense. Mills and Rampe will be the general defenders and I suspect Rampe won’t play the attacking role at all.

                            in finals there would are traditionally less points scored off half back but is this year a bit different given the stand rule.
                            Melican has been in and out of the side all season depending on matchups. Blackey, McCartin and Edwards had been the tall defenders all season.,The only change is Hamling replacing Edwards following his injury. Rampe plays a different role on the mid sized forwards

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