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  • NMWBloods
    Taking Refuge!!
    • Jan 2003
    • 15819

    #76
    Unfortunately none of it means anything until/unless they actually play some senior football, as we've seen so many times before.
    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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    • Damien
      Living in 2005
      • Jan 2003
      • 3713

      #77
      Originally posted by NMWBloods
      Unfortunately none of it means anything until/unless they actually play some senior football, as we've seen so many times before.
      Yep, it's funny how excited some fans (esp Melb club fans) get over the draft. With the exception of the Deledio's and Judd's, most drafted players take a lot of work to get them where you need them to be.

      We have hardly had a top 10 pick for over a decade but have yet managed to be one of the better sides over that period.

      Hopefully we have found another Goodes in this bunch.

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      • hammo
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2003
        • 5554

        #78
        Originally posted by chammond
        This is the Swans we're talking about!!

        We won't see any of them this season, nor probably next season.
        I know but I was being optimistic that someone would come on really quickly as a gun!

        Article on O'Keefe here:

        "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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        • Damien
          Living in 2005
          • Jan 2003
          • 3713

          #79
          We have B1 and B2 to cover the Bolton's....

          So do we now have ROK and DOK?

          Or can we do better????

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          • Claret
            Support Staff
            • Sep 2005
            • 1104

            #80
            Wasn't Danny O'Keefe the name of Gary Sweet's character in Blue Heelers?
            And the man who started it all, the Schneiderman . . . . .

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            • ugg
              Can you feel it?
              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 15981

              #81
              Originally posted by liz
              Chance to get another "brother" in Schmidt now gone! (Though I think this one is actually related - a cousin.)
              We actually got one in Daniel Currie - brother of Paul (rookie list 2006 - perhaps he'll be rerookied (sic))
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              • caj23
                Senior Player
                • Aug 2003
                • 2462

                #82
                what a disaster, terrible strategy taken by the swans recruiting department

                this is not a critcism of our new players as i havent seen enough of them to comment but how we went about this draft

                round 1: another bloody onballer. we were unlucky that the brown twins and sellar were all snapped before this pick but mckenzie was still available. basically the swans are saying that they're not sure the young onballers we have ie moore, scmidt mcveigh maceski and last years draftees are good enough to replace the current crop

                round 2; history shows that it is extremely difficult for any team to pick a decent ruckman out of the tac system. i guess we will now have to wait another 3-4 years to find out with currie. plus its likely that currie would have been available in the 3rd or 4th round. would have liked to have seen benjaman or peterson taken here.

                round 3: had we taken a key position in round 1 there were still some decent mmids available here

                round 4: hooray this is where speculative ruckmen should be taken in the draft (luernberger types an obvious exception to the rule)

                i hope i'm wrong but i thinjk we are one of the teams that will look back on this draft in a few years time with some major regrets

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                • goswannie14
                  Leadership Group
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 11166

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Will Sangster
                  what a disaster, terrible strategy taken by the swans recruiting department
                  The same type of recruiting disasters that got us into the last 2 Gf's.

                  this is not a critcism of our new players as i havent seen enough of them to comment but.....
                  If you haven't seen enough of the players to comment why do you then go on for 5 paragraphs?
                  Does God believe in Atheists?

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                  • caj23
                    Senior Player
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 2462

                    #84
                    mate i suggest you re-read my thread

                    i didnt make any comments about the ability of the players selected, just the strategy taken by the swans

                    just because we've done something well in the past doesnt mean we should rest on our laurels. we wont see the benefit of this draft for another 3-4 years so your comments about 2 gfs in a row are irrelevant

                    as i already said i hope i'm wrong

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                    • ugg
                      Can you feel it?
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15981

                      #85
                      Some profiles from big footy.

                      9. Daniel O?Keefe (St Kilda). The Saints midfield has class but lacks depth. O?Keefe is the prototypical modern half-back flanker. Covers a large amount of turf, gets large numbers of touches and loses his man effortlessly. He is also a good kick and has a surprising leap. A 40-plus goalkicker from the wing and lead the TAC in uncontested marks by a big margin reflecting his running gamestyle. Finished the season strongly but a knee injury restricted him at the camp.

                      75. Daniel Currie (St Kilda) ? Lyon got his 200cm ruckman for the present in Gardiner but will probably want one for the future too. Currie has the height and has reasonable skills for a big man. Probably lacks mobility but might be a late round gamble because he is too young to rookie.

                      Thought I'd do down to 68 although it is unlikely those late picks will be used. 2003 effort 2004 effort 2005 effort List from July this year


                      23 ? Daniel O?Keefe (Port)
                      O?Keefe will add some extra depth and skill to Port?s midfield which is just a few good players from becoming one of the best. He has good skills, pace and has a bit of flair. Could also play on the half forward line and be quite damaging. When at his best can turn a game on it?s head, however with a very close-checking tagger he could be negated. Is a possibility to play 10+ games in his first season.

                      1 – Bryce Gibbs (Carl) Gibbs is the automatic selection here. Carlton could take a big risk and go with Leuenberger but any rebuilding side needs to get a top quality midfield going first, and with the likes of Murphy, Walker and Simpson they are well on the way. Gibbs is just a super-classy...


                      13: Richmond - Daniel O?Keefe
                      Richmond is another team hard to predict what they will do. O?Keefe has been linked there and he?s the type of player they?d be very keen on. Good pace, excellent endurance, good height for a midfielder and very good skills. Would have tested very well at DC I imagine, but injury prevented that. He?s also quite versatile in that he can play forward, back or midfield. Richmond could however go with a number of players at #13, Riewoldt, Hislop, Benjamin, Djerkurra, Edwards and Morton would all be considered I imagine.

                      Have compiled a mock draft which may be somewhat similar to TOA’s which isn’t all that surprising as we have talked a bit to each other about the upcoming draft. Just want to add, that I apologise in advance for using predominantly West Coast players for player comparisons, but obviously they’re...
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                      • LittleSchneider
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 582

                        #86
                        Originally posted by satchmopugdog
                        Jesse white from his My Sace reminds me of Ryan Fitzgerald.


                        CAN'T SPELL....arghhhhhhhh. Don't tell me he is a yobbo footballer with a huge ego. That's how he seemed to come across.

                        Settle Satch......give him a chance.

                        At least he is tall
                        Thats how he comes across to me. Just read his My Space and he seems to be quite illiterate and has big big tickets on himself - i.e income being $250 000 and higher - not on a rookie salary mate!
                        And the man who started it, the Schneiderman, can kick his third for the quarter. And the swans are in the Grand Final!

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                        • ugg
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                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15981

                          #87
                          LOL, he just changed his music to Cheer Cheer. For that I'll forgive his appalling spelling.
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                          • goswannie14
                            Leadership Group
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 11166

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Will Sangster
                            mate i suggest you re-read my thread

                            i didnt make any comments about the ability of the players selected, just the strategy taken by the swans

                            just because we've done something well in the past doesnt mean we should rest on our laurels. we wont see the benefit of this draft for another 3-4 years so your comments about 2 gfs in a row are irrelevant

                            as i already said i hope i'm wrong
                            I am just getting sick of "the sky is falling" attitude that too often finds its way on to this site.

                            FWIW people are often bagging the recruiting dept, but as I pointed out they have done the job for us in the past, why should this draft be any diferent?
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                            • caj23
                              Senior Player
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 2462

                              #89
                              fair enough gs i generally dont bag our team on this site (ok teddy might have copped a bit from me this season )

                              i'm just disappointed as i had different expectations to what eventuated. i really would have liked to have seen peterson and or benjaman on our list as they are excitement machines

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                              • goswannie14
                                Leadership Group
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 11166

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Will Sangster
                                fair enough gs i generally dont bag our team on this site (ok teddy might have copped a bit from me this season )

                                i'm just disappointed as i had different expectations to what eventuated. i really would have liked to have seen peterson and or benjaman on our list as they are excitement machines
                                Excitement machines...Sydney. Do you think you will ever see those words in the same sentence?
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