Bradshaw v Hall???

[Plugger46]

We're talking 2010 form here, he's been pretty good for the Dogs but they have a similar issue to what we had in that their forward line is now very Barry-centric.

That works fine against a team like Carlton but if he can't do it against a Geelong, St Kilda or Collingwood then it doesn't mean much

Might be more of a reflection on their game plan and their other forwards not going as well as last year, rather than on Hall. Aker, Johnson, Higgins, Gia, Hill etc haven't been at the level they were last year as a group for a variety of reasons.

Played every game, kicked 54 goals and sits second on the Coleman. Pretty decent return for a 33yo.

[caj23]

The man's kicked 600+ goals and played a number of great finals, I don't think he's got much to prove.

We're talking 2010 form here, he's been pretty good for the Dogs but they have a similar issue to what we had in that their forward line is now very Barry-centric.

That works fine against a team like Carlton but if he can't do it against a Geelong, St Kilda or Collingwood then it doesn't mean much

[Go Swannies]

The man's kicked 600+ goals and played a number of great finals, I don't think he's got much to prove.

After his attitude over the past couple of years, yes he does. Thug-player-thug isn't a good career summary.

[msb]

Well, you would have to say hall at this stage, although when braddy has been in he has been very good for us and boy we need him back after the forward setup yesterday!

[Plugger46]

Lets see if he can do it against a quality team before getting too excited

The man's kicked 600+ goals and played a number of great finals, I don't think he's got much to prove.

[caj23]

Going alright Barry.

Lets see if he can do it against a quality team before getting too excited

[Wardy]

good accurate delivery of the ball makes a hell of a difference too - Barry is loving it. I couldnt believe how fast the Dogs Blues game was - amazing - the way footy should be played.

[Go Swannies]

Going alright Barry.

Amazing what a wake up call getting sacked can be

isn't it Shneiderman?

[Plugger46]

Going alright Barry.

[SwansFan1972]

Is Baz yelling at his midfield yet? That expressed frustration will be what brings him undone again, I reckon. (Yeah, I know that Shaw took on Goodes last year but that's just a one-off heat of battle, not week after week as it was with Baz.) If I was coaching the Dees (god forbid!) I'd tell them to niggle and niggle Baz so he feels hard done by all game - and wait for the blow up.

Our footy tipping comp had three long range predictions for bonus points that needed to be entered prior to the first bounce of round 1:

- Grand Finalists
- Wooden Spooner
- Round in which Bazza would incur his first suspension points for 2010!

I reckoned on the Hawks being at their unsociable best and riling him up enough for a whack in round three (after last year and with Sammy Mitchell there it was a no brainer I thought).

Unfortunately the Hawks play more like socialites rather than unsociables these days and Bazza's temperature never got higher than a warm sweat.

[Dalai Lama]

Lucy

Bradshaw can see in the dark and mark the ball and kick straighter than Mr Potato Head!

[Go Swannies]

I was one who felt our delivery to him over the last few years was on the worse side of ordinary.

Now I suspect the blame might sit more fairly with Hall himself. Watching the Dogs at the moment it looks like some of our games from last couple of seasons, just in different jerseys. The dogs now look pretty disorganised going forward and have slipped from one of the most precise kicking teams (in particular into the F50) to just run of the mill.

It may just be due to the dogs mids having lost a bit of their accuracy, but maybe it has to with Hall's positioning also. Whatever the reasons, he sure isn't getting the silver service delivery he expected (and talked about) down there and he looks very much the same player for them as he was for us in recent years (including the aggro which looks to be simmering away dangerously).

Even though it ended badly with Hall, we will always have our best footy memories from 2005 in large part due to him. The split was necessary however and now we all just move on ...

Meanwhile, Bradshaw has slipped us on like Cinderella's slipper and the fit looks and feels perfect.

Is Baz yelling at his midfield yet? That expressed frustration will be what brings him undone again, I reckon. (Yeah, I know that Shaw took on Goodes last year but that's just a one-off heat of battle, not week after week as it was with Baz.) If I was coaching the Dees (god forbid!) I'd tell them to niggle and niggle Baz so he feels hard done by all game - and wait for the blow up.

[SwansFan1972]

if we gave hall the delivery over the last few seasons that we give bradshaw at the moment things could be different

I was one who felt our delivery to him over the last few years was on the worse side of ordinary.

Now I suspect the blame might sit more fairly with Hall himself. Watching the Dogs at the moment it looks like some of our games from last couple of seasons, just in different jerseys. The dogs now look pretty disorganised going forward and have slipped from one of the most precise kicking teams (in particular into the F50) to just run of the mill.

It may just be due to the dogs mids having lost a bit of their accuracy, but maybe it has to with Hall's positioning also. Whatever the reasons, he sure isn't getting the silver service delivery he expected (and talked about) down there and he looks very much the same player for them as he was for us in recent years (including the aggro which looks to be simmering away dangerously).

Even though it ended badly with Hall, we will always have our best footy memories from 2005 with him being a key factor. The split was necessary however and now we all just move on ...

Meanwhile, Bradshaw has slipped us on like Cinderella's slipper and the fit looks and feels perfect.

[Jeffers1984]

Cousins and Judd were right up there. Goodes was in '06 but not in '05. As for Brown and Riewoldt, definitely not in those years.

Agree. No way were Brown and Riewoldt better than Barry in those years.

Brown struggled with form/suspension/injury and i thought Hall was superior/influencial to Riewoldt at that time anyways.

[Plugger46]

Wouldn't of thought so.

Cousins, Judd, Goodes, Brown, Riewoldt all comfortably better.

Cousins and Judd were right up there. Goodes was in '06 but not in '05. As for Brown and Riewoldt, definitely not in those years.