Collingwood players in sexual assault complaint.

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Comment worth reading from a seasoned crime reporter:
Collingwood Footballers Investigated For Rape

[Lucky Knickers]

Two adults consenting is one thing whether those adults are a skank or a footballer taking what's on offer.
Should either adult not consent to anything it becomes a matter for the police if one party pursues their own agenda and should be treated accordingly.
We've all seen behaviour less than attractive from both men and women out at night. It isn't an invitation or an excuse to cross someone's personal boundaries.
I think Spida needs to consider his words more carefully and frankly deserves to squirm a bit in public over this. Whilst I'm surprised he even chose to tweet on the subject he's not known for his judgement in matters of antisocial behaviour.

[goswannie14]

I didn't hear those interviews, but I've seen enough footy-player-chasing skanks out and about on a Saturday night in Melbourne to know that they know what they are looking for, and it's usually more than a cup of Milo. I remember hearing some of the stories when I worked at VFL level with some ex-AFL players. Women would recognise them out and about, then abuse the guys' girlfriends when the guys would decline the offers put to them on grounds of being in a relationship. I even saw one of the lovely girlfriends get slapped at the after-party for a club event, simply because she stepped in and asked a random to leave her and her man alone (said random was drunk and the rudest, pushiest cow I've ever seen!). Some of the guys even stopped going out to popular venues because of it, and that's just not fair! Yes, footballers may be popular and in some ways "public property" but there are some horrid women out there who are out for personal or sexual gratification, and the old "I bagged a footballer" glory, and I'm sick of hearing it's the guys' fault. Not saying they're all angels, and they definitely still need to respect "No" etc, but jeez it's a 2 way street!

Most sensible thing I have read on this since the story broke.

[swansrock4eva]

I didn't hear those interviews, but I've seen enough footy-player-chasing skanks out and about on a Saturday night in Melbourne to know that they know what they are looking for, and it's usually more than a cup of Milo. I remember hearing some of the stories when I worked at VFL level with some ex-AFL players. Women would recognise them out and about, then abuse the guys' girlfriends when the guys would decline the offers put to them on grounds of being in a relationship. I even saw one of the lovely girlfriends get slapped at the after-party for a club event, simply because she stepped in and asked a random to leave her and her man alone (said random was drunk and the rudest, pushiest cow I've ever seen!). Some of the guys even stopped going out to popular venues because of it, and that's just not fair! Yes, footballers may be popular and in some ways "public property" but there are some horrid women out there who are out for personal or sexual gratification, and the old "I bagged a footballer" glory, and I'm sick of hearing it's the guys' fault. Not saying they're all angels, and they definitely still need to respect "No" etc, but jeez it's a 2 way street!

[goswannie14]

He may not have been tactful in what he said, but there is a definite element of truth to his words. As much as the guys have to be sensible, the girlies should be as well. And I say this as a woman myself. We get all the power in these situations, and it's not right - the second a complaint is made, it's up to the male to prove his innocence, and often comes down to "he said, she said."

And just ask Brett Stewart (and to a lesser degree, Brendan Fevola who has just been cleared) what false accusations relating to sexual misconduct can do to your life...

Both of those points were ones that Spida was very big on in his interview with Sunrise this morning.

[swansrock4eva]

He may not have been tactful in what he said, but there is a definite element of truth to his words. As much as the guys have to be sensible, the girlies should be as well. And I say this as a woman myself. We get all the power in these situations, and it's not right - the second a complaint is made, it's up to the male to prove his innocence, and often comes down to "he said, she said."

And just ask Brett Stewart (and to a lesser degree, Brendan Fevola who has just been cleared) what false accusations relating to sexual misconduct can do to your life...

[DeadlyAkkuret]

God Spida is a @@@@ing idiot.

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'Spida' turns on women over Collingwood sex allegations

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Collingwood players in sex assault probe | News.com.au

That's how to take the shine off a premiership.

At least we know with certainty it wasn't Darren because he would have been looking after Mrs Jolly and the premiership medal around HER neck.

It does not state whether the complaint was lodged by a male or female.

No mention of it here: http://www.joffasfrontpage.com/index.html