1st Qualifying Final Sydney Swans v GWS Giants at ANZ Stadium

[AnnieH]

You seriously can't tell me now that they didn't throw this game.

[graemed]

Great call. The kid has many talents and tries his heart out - but he has many limitations as well, and one-sidedness, lack of vision and poor decision-making are among his worst.

It is frustrating to see the number of times he bombs the ball forward without much care but usually this is justified by the pressure of the circumstance.
His decision making with ball in hand and options available is more sound.
The key to watching Mitchell is to realise just how often he presents himself and his selfless running. He is tireless, he doesn't complain and act out. He is courageous to a fault and above all else he wins his own ball again and again and again.
But I agree he kicks wildly too often.

[giant]

There are split second decisions but if your default position is bomb forward, without forwards, then how can that ever work.

Aliir appears to be able to read movement and space. Or will it be coached out of him!

Mitchell never looked outside and appeared to be almost totally left sided, by hand and foot, and wanted to go back to that side.

Mcveigh has played 300 games for the club and knews that we dont keep a lot of forwards in front 50. He should knew that if our forwards are not in front 50 they MUST be just 25-40m in front of him.

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Great call. The kid has many talents and tries his heart out - but he has many limitations as well, and one-sidedness, lack of vision and poor decision-making are among his worst.

[barry]

By design, money, pedigree and experience GWS are a superior team in my opinion

Same thing was said in 2005 about West Coast, compared to us.

If we channel the bloods spirit, we can go all the way. Giants will poop themselves on the MCG at grand final day.

Dont abandon hope.

[Auntie.Gerald]

By design, money, pedigree and experience GWS are a superior team in my opinion

We out performed in season 2016 with our young ones with minimal games in Snrs

But we have fight and we can turn it around on our day in our backyard ....... So different to the big fields that suit the outside player game

Adelaide though has an incredible array of targets that one on one are a nightmare up front and I wouldn't sell the short of winning the GF

[WauchopeAnalyst]

There are split second decisions but if your default position is bomb forward, without forwards, then how can that ever work.

Aliir appears to be able to read movement and space. Or will it be coached out of him!

Mitchell never looked outside and appeared to be almost totally left sided, by hand and foot, and wanted to go back to that side.

Mcveigh has played 300 games for the club and knews that we dont keep a lot of forwards in front 50. He should knew that if our forwards are not in front 50 they MUST be just 25-40m in front of him.

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[mcs]

This is we turnovers killed us, with lack of vision, decision making and poor skills. This is only 1 but they kicked 11 goals from turnovers.

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PS: I couldn't work it out any other way.

That is really interesting stuff Wauchope - shows how one split second decision has such a big impact on the play. Aliir certainly does have good vision, and in time that will be a really valuable asset in the backline for us.

[Meg]

This is hardly a surprise - but some in the media had tried to make a beat-up about the standard AFL request for information on Kennedy's concussion test.

"The Sydney Swans have been cleared of any wrongdoing after an investigation into their concussion management of midfielder Josh Kennedy in last week's qualifying final against Greater Western Sydney."

Swans in the clear over Kennedy assessment - AFL.com.au

[WauchopeAnalyst]

This is we turnovers killed us, with lack of vision, decision making and poor skills. This is only 1 but they kicked 11 goals from turnovers.

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PS: I couldn't work it out any other way.

[Faunac8]

Who are these three or four VFA quality clubs that you refer to Barry?
The four bottom Vic clubs this year were Essendon Carlton Richmond and Collingwood
Even in your trolling mode you must admit there's a fair bit of power held by these clubs. Massive membership numbers history and premiership success.
Of course I await your response saying that actual on field success is not the criteria you were using.
Like it or not we were the recipient of much ongoing financial assistance for quite some time in the 80's and 90's and we couldn't even point to any major on field success to justify that investment.

[dimelb]

The AFL squibbed it big time. Not only do they have two fragile new expansion clubs, but they have decimated Brisbane, and still have to prop up 3 or 4 melbourne VFA-quality clubs. And now these numby VFA-style clubs want to drag down the new expansion clubs to their basketcase level. If the AFL wanted a Gold coast team in the VFA, they should have just added to the VFA directly.

We are well overdue for a melbourne team rationalisation.

I agree about the AFL squibbing. If North and Bulldogs had gone to Gold Coast and Western Sydney, they and the whole comp would have been better off, especially if they had been properly supported past the initial disruption and rancour. The Bulldogs could even still have been the Western Bulldogs.


The best current alternative is that North could be the basis for the much-needed Tasmanian team.

In the meantime I hope the experiment works. The code needs to expand in the Northern states and the AFL is right to continue with the Giants, but should requite them to engage more with the locals and leave the Murray region to others. If the Suns go down (so to speak) I'd like to see them based in Darwin.

[barry]

Well the AFL worked hard to get LOLNorf (then know as just the Kangaroos) to go to the Gold Coast, were giving them a heap of money and draft concessions but Brayshaw led the NO campaign so LOLNorf will forever be a Melbourne minnow.

The other part of the plan was to relocate the WESTERN Bulldogs to Western Sydney but once LOLNorf fell over the Dogs were safe.

Then of course we got the stupid 18 team comp which hasn't helped a whole heap of struggling Melbourne clubs.

The AFL squibbed it big time. Not only do they have two fragile new expansion clubs, but they have decimated Brisbane, and still have to prop up 3 or 4 melbourne VFA-quality clubs. And now these numby VFA-style clubs want to drag down the new expansion clubs to their basketcase level. If the AFL wanted a Gold coast team in the VFA, they should have just added to the VFA directly.

We are well overdue for a melbourne team rationalisation.

[kilroyII]

You know what I really can't stand... people who hold a membership to the swans AND the bogans.
If you want to follow the bogans, follow them - we'll take your money, but we'll consider it tainted.

Dont worry, market forces in a few years will sort that out quick fast. Same as those 2nd memberships by AFL fans.

All that will be left is 100 GWS fans.

[AnnieH]

You know what I really can't stand... people who hold a membership to the swans AND the bogans.
If you want to follow the bogans, follow them - we'll take your money, but we'll consider it tainted.

[707]

Which is good reason to remove dogs and aints from comp right?

Well the AFL worked hard to get LOLNorf (then know as just the Kangaroos) to go to the Gold Coast, were giving them a heap of money and draft concessions but Brayshaw led the NO campaign so LOLNorf will forever be a Melbourne minnow.

The other part of the plan was to relocate the WESTERN Bulldogs to Western Sydney but once LOLNorf fell over the Dogs were safe.

Then of course we got the stupid 18 team comp which hasn't helped a whole heap of struggling Melbourne clubs.