Round 13: Dockers v Swans

[AB Swannie]

Not much to take out of that game, loss was to be expected given the team on paper. At least we’re heading for a high draft pick.

Longmire’s continuing misuse of Allir is frustrating. He’s capable of being an AA level intercept defender, particularly when he’s given a consistent run. Instead he’s played forward, ruck or not at all. Criminal that he wasn’t selected last night

I personally think Aliir is overrated on here. I like him and think he should be in the team but he is a fringe best 22 rather than a potential AA defender. He is not good enough to play on a power forward as a key defender and when compared to other good intercept defenders he is too inconsistent with both his marking and kicking to play as the loose. At times he is fantastic but then he will drop a sitter. His kicking is also slow and often short. I know people will argue that he hasn't been given time to develop as this defender and has been thrown around to different positions too much which may be somewhat true but overall I think that has been because he has never been as valuable in defence as we had hoped.

Nick Haynes, Jeremy McGovern, Luke Ryan, Jordan Ridley, Tom Stewart, Nick Vlastuin, Jeremy Howe, James Sicily. I've probably missed a few but these are guys who would be well ahead of Aliir in skill level in both marking and kicking and so I can't see him ever overtaking these intercepters to be in AA contention whether he is given time to develop there or not.

[Markwebbos]

I can only imagine he wasn't fit.

Named as an emergency

[Ralph Dawg]

Not much to take out of that game, loss was to be expected given the team on paper. At least we’re heading for a high draft pick.

Longmire’s continuing misuse of Allir is frustrating. He’s capable of being an AA level intercept defender, particularly when he’s given a consistent run. Instead he’s played forward, ruck or not at all. Criminal that he wasn’t selected last night

I can only imagine he wasn't fit.

[caj23]

Not much to take out of that game, loss was to be expected given the team on paper. At least we’re heading for a high draft pick.

Longmire’s continuing misuse of Allir is frustrating. He’s capable of being an AA level intercept defender, particularly when he’s given a consistent run. Instead he’s played forward, ruck or not at all. Criminal that he wasn’t selected last night

[Ralph Dawg]

Horse does seem unwilling to roll the dice on the midfield contest. Seems content to limit our scoring to remain competitive. This is fine when we are protecting a lead but no good if we are chasing a few goals. Teams like Richmond and to a lesser extent the Dogs might get away with this as they can move the ball effectively by hand and spread rapidly, but we're not at that level.

Oh well, I guess we can take heart that the game plan stopped a massive blow out............

[Swanny40519]

If something is too good to be true, we witness that yesterday. The GWS game was a game where the opposition was very poor, it was never use being very good. The inability of just about anyone to win a 50/50 contest was disturbing. Bring on position 17th, and maybe we can recruit one or two decent players next year.

Yep - we need a tall defender, mobile tall forward and hopefully a fit tall ruckman. Not much to ask for.

Oh yeah - and a strategy refit for the coaching team - how about some attacking, play on football - probably too much to hope for.

[crackedactor 01]

If something is too good to be true, we witness that yesterday. The GWS game was a game where the opposition was very poor, it was never use being very good. The inability of just about anyone to win a 50/50 contest was disturbing. Bring on position 17th, and maybe we can recruit one or two decent players next year.

[Swanny40519]

Kennedy made us look slower.. Less spread on the outside. Fremantle are a well drilled unit and their pressure caused a lot of turnovers. It also meant we didn't go direct. A lot more lateral movement coming out of defence. Thought Melican was good again. You have to go with the players you have but our injurery list is not chronic. I do believe either AA or Mauibum was the right pick. Kennedy selection wasn't a good one.

Agree - Kennedy in the first half looked completely lost and only improved slightly in the second half. Our selection to replace Rampe with Kennedy was crazy. Freo have 2 very tall players and we should have included one of Alir, Mailbum or Gould (is he ever going to get a chance this year?).

Plus our forwards were not given a chance with the terrible entries - bombing the ball wide and long and having a forward short in numbers all night. Terrible coaching and little leadership on the ground.

[lwjoyner]

not one player deserved any accolades tonight except perhaps for cuningham. Rowbottome didnt get into the game until the last qrt. A disgraceful effort after last week. Also on coomentatorsa amazing how dunstall changes his tune.

[Blood Fever]

Kennedy made us look slower.. Less spread on the outside. Fremantle are a well drilled unit and their pressure caused a lot of turnovers. It also meant we didn't go direct. A lot more lateral movement coming out of defence. Thought Melican was good again. You have to go with the players you have but our injurery list is not chronic. I do believe either AA or Mauibum was the right pick. Kennedy selection wasn't a good one.

Kennedy was off the pace but will get better. One player who was very disappointing was Thurlow - coughed it up too easily when he panicked under not that much pressure. If his contract is up this year, I wouldn't renew it, despite his kicking skills.

[Blood Fever]

Our senior players were poor.

Kennedy and Parker both kicked poorly and make us slower. They were basically smashed.

Papley was ok in the first quarter but very ordinary after that. Couldn’t look further from the best small forward in the comp.

I love Sammy Reid but he adds nothing these days. McCartin as a 19 year old is a far more threat. That says it all.

On the positive front I thought Fox and Cunningham played well and loved Lloyd taking the game on by kicking into the corridor. McCartin and Rowbottom were the pick of the kids.

Fair summation. Thought Mills stood up again. His spoil running backwards and then winning the ball off Fyfe was probably the one highlight of the game.

[Ralph Dawg]

First week back after a long lay off with injury. I think calling time on Joey is a little premature

Yep agreed. Beaten convincingly at the coal face. Mundy owned the inside. This is going to happen. Joey will be better for the run.

However playing the extra at the contest might have stemmed the bleeding a little but once we were 3-4 goals down, gave us next to no chance of actually winning the game. We effectively were playing one down forward of the contest and the Freo just cleaned up on the intercept marks.

I think we really missed Rampe. He has been driving us out of defence - his ability to take the right option out of defence is just elite. It also meant Mills had to man up and couldn't play the intercept role. Next week I think Foot might be an out for another tall defender.

[Captain]

Our senior players were poor.

Kennedy and Parker both kicked poorly and make us slower. They were basically smashed.

Papley was ok in the first quarter but very ordinary after that. Couldn’t look further from the best small forward in the comp.

I love Sammy Reid but he adds nothing these days. McCartin as a 19 year old is a far more threat. That says it all.

On the positive front I thought Fox and Cunningham played well and loved Lloyd taking the game on by kicking into the corridor. McCartin and Rowbottom were the pick of the kids.

[MattW]

-Thought Blakey is going much better in his new role. 4 clearances, 15 disposals, 417m gained. They are a hard side to play against and were better than us.
-Swans won the inside 50s 43-34

Agree on Blakey. 7 inside 50s too - the most by a Swan. Usage was a bit mixed. Sometimes just needs to take the simple option, but he'll learn.

[Legs Akimbo]

Kennedy made us look slower.. Less spread on the outside. Fremantle are a well drilled unit and their pressure caused a lot of turnovers. It also meant we didn't go direct. A lot more lateral movement coming out of defence. Thought Melican was good again. You have to go with the players you have but our injurery list is not chronic. I do believe either AA or Mauibum was the right pick. Kennedy selection wasn't a good one.