+1Originally Posted by MattW
I haven't seen anything to date from Clarke to u derstand why he keeps getting played, maybe his ticker but he doesn't even have speed. I try not to be negative about the players but he was out for me last year.
Stick with the youth and let them learn what it takes at this level. If Elijah gets some power sprint training in the off season, We have a star if we can keep him. 🖤💛❤
I meant no disrespect to Rowbottom. It is the opposite, I see something quite special in him and good things happen when he has the ball. If you watch Bailey Smith from WB or Walsh from Carlton, they are everywhere, and in everything. They bounce from contest to contest and stay involved. Rowbottom doesn't do that, he is the same age. He is tracking along nicely but not at the level of someone who will be a future superstar. So it is not me who has the high expectations.
I highly doubt it takes someone else's comment to get you, captain, troyjones and wolfie to be negative.....come on now, stop deflecting.
At the same age, and noting also the shorter games, Rowbottom has:
- comparable stats to two times Bob Skilton Medal winner Luke Parker: link.
- far superior stats than 325 game, premiership player Jarrad McVeigh: link.
- superior stats than 325 game, two time premiership winner Jude Bolton: link.
There are various reason for all of that, but it's to demonstrate that it is way too early to put a ceiling on his potential. I think at 25 games in his second year, he's extremely promising. He is a great tackler, quick away from the stoppage, smart, can kick goals on the run, he backs himself, and he's improving every game. Reckon you're better off just enjoying it.
Id let clarke play as a ball winner and see what he has.
47 touches in the ressies last year is huge,disposal is somewhat irrelevant if its first touch, most of parkers kicks from the middle are over his shoulder
i tried this a few weeks back but found the vision was about 6 or 7 seconds behind the commentary so you knew what was about to happen before it happened.
So this 'adjustment' process is intriguing RB42. i'll have a play around with it for the pies game, hopefully its as straightforward as you make it sound. It's hard enough enduring a losing season without it being exacerbated by bonehead commentary.
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Not every player is a finished product from Day 1. No doubt Bailey Smith and Walsh are in front of him at this point - but they should be. One was a No 1 draft pick, and the other what 6 or 7 (i.e. mid first round), and they both really have hit the ground running from day 1.
The main differences reflect that Rowbottom is not quite contributing as much around the ground- which could be as simple as him not having the 'tank' of others such as Smith and Walsh, which exactly was what profiles written in their draft year suggested:
James Rowbottom - Aussie Rules Draft Central
Samuel Walsh - Aussie Rules Draft Central
Bailey Smith - Aussie Rules Draft Central
And to be honest he isn't actually that far behind Walsh on many of the key statistical measures:
Sam Walsh and James Rowbottom AFL Stats Comparison
As MattW points out , Rowbottom's statistical output for this point of his career is highly comparable to some of the very best players we have had in recent generations. And they are pretty comparable to a lot of other players that have gone on to be superstars over the last 2 or 3 decades across the competition. Given there is so much subjectivity on this matter, objective statistics are usually the best measure of how someone is tracking along overall. Would you have thrown Gary Ablett Jr on the scrapheap, because it took him 6 seasons to even average above 20 touches a game (noting some that time was spent playing predominately forward)?
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I am sure the coaches will point out to Elijah Taylor what people are saying on here. Assuming he plays the next game lets see if his behaviour changes.
It's a different game. Kids are having more of an impact and becoming elite much earlier than they used to. 15, 20 years ago, nearly all teenagers were in the state leagues and barely played a match in their first few years. The form kids show in the current game is more indicative of the player they are going to be than ever before. Smith, Walsh, Rowell, Serong.. these boys will not just fade into obscurity. They are the best mids of their age group, and they'll be the best mids when they are 25+. Rowbottom I think will be in the tier below, which is no disgrace, he will be a good player, but a dominant one? Doubtful.
Lachie Neale was a pick 58 and played in the shadow of Fyfe and Mundy for years. Now he looks headed for a Brownlow. Those top 10 pics you named look very good and will likely be top class mids. But there are always some that come from obscurity to stardom. It's a bit early to make this kind of call.
Perhaps. I don't mind making it. It's not an insult to Rowbottom, I do like the cut of his jib. More that I think his future output could be over-estimated on here.
The radio is usually ahead of the tv.
At a stoppage, freeze the tv until radio has ball about to come back into play, then hit start.
You can fiddle with fast forward if you miss.
It doesnt take much practice, mate.
Im pretty illiterate technically, so it can be done.
And it's so worth it.
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