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    Home games at Skoda Stadium?

    Let's face it. If we can only draw 13,505 people to one of our home games - a crowd the Giants would be pleased with - we may as well give Skoda Stadium a try.

    There just isn't any excuse for so many of our Sydney members not attending a home game.

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    It was pretty awful weather, I don't really frown on anyone who didn't get along to the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stellation View Post
    It was pretty awful weather, I don't really frown on anyone who didn't get along to the game.

    Were you there, Cheer Squad?
    Are you serious???

    Today's crowd - 13,505 - was the smallest crowd at the SCG since Round 9, 1989 - way back at the beginning of the club's dark ages in the early 1990's.

    In fact, it's the smallest crowd seen at the SCG since the club began it's ascent to general competitiveness in 1996.

    How can anyone seriously make excuses for a no-show from so many thousands of our Sydney membership?

    And yes, of course I was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheer Squad View Post
    Today's crowd - 13,505 - was the smallest crowd at the SCG since Round 9, 1989 - way back at the beginning of the club's dark ages in the early 1990's.

    In fact, it's the smallest crowd seen at the SCG since the club began it's ascent to general competitiveness in 1996.
    Huh? Is it 1989 or is it 1996? The correct answer was round 2, 1996, when we drew 10,965 to watch us play Freo. And I think you mean 'Swans game at the SCG' not 'smallest crowd at the SCG', as the Roos drew 7k when they played Port Adelaide at the SCG (what a marketers' nightmare!) in 2000.

    Anyway, while the crowd was poor (perversely, I was there, and I don't get to that many games these days), in 2002 we got a 14k (vs Roos in their 'home game' experiment, of course) and two 16k crowds (St Kilda & Freo); and I'm sure that none of those 3 games had a weather buildup as dire as this weekend. Iffy crowds like that do happen; the important thing is that there are some 30ks on the good days against strong-drawing opponents, to balance them out.

    It's a tough competitive market; in some ways GWS can make things better for the Swans (mostly with the 2 local derbies a year), but in many ways they will make things tougher, and I'm sure everyone associated with the Swans went into 2012 with open eyes in that respect.

    Skoda isn't the answer to anything for the Swans, and isn't even a theoretical option.

    I just hope that while full houses are hard to come buy, Swans' admin can start making a bit more of an effort to trade off $ for bums on seats, to grow the game longer-term. For example, general admission tickets were 'sold out' to today's game by the time I came to buy tickets today (!)-- meaning I had to pay another $25 for an adult and child, than I should have had to pay (given that there must have been literally thousands of seats available in the GA area). Most waverers wouldn't have bothered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    I just hope that while full houses are hard to come buy, Swans' admin can start making a bit more of an effort to trade off $ for bums on seats, to grow the game longer-term. For example, general admission tickets were 'sold out' to today's game by the time I came to buy tickets today (!)-- meaning I had to pay another $25 for an adult and child, than I should have had to pay (given that there must have been literally thousands of seats available in the GA area). Most waverers wouldn't have bothered.
    That was a disgrace. I was told that the upstairs level of the Victor Trumper was "sold out" when trying to get some friends who'd bought GA tickets up to sit with us in the red zone, given it was raining and there were free seats everywhere on the top level. How people can argue that a section is sold out when there are thousands of empty chairs staring them in the face as they say it is beyond me. Good thing there are like 6 different staircases up to the top levels.

    I've also had a couple of experiences this year being told that GA tickets are sold out when trying to get friends in to games that were anything but sold out. And it's happened before this year, too.

    Blatantly lying to members isn't good enough. I know it's more to do with Ticketek and the SCG, but the Swans should demand more from their service providers.

    But Sydneysiders do love a whinge about weather/time slots/traffic/whatever, as evidenced by this thread. Compared to Melbournites, they're bloody soft.

    Seriously, people in Sydney would have you believe Melbourne football supporters are carried to the game on individual palanquins by teams of oiled eunuchs, and that's what accounts for the good crowds.

    The fact is they're more committed to their teams and less inclined to whinge about minor inconveniences. They face bad weather, @@@@ transport and unhelpful time slots, but they still get to games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Moore View Post
    That was a disgrace. I was told that the upstairs level of the Victor Trumper was "sold out" when trying to get some friends who'd bought GA tickets up to sit with us in the red zone, given it was raining and there were free seats everywhere on the top level. How people can argue that a section is sold out when there are thousands of empty chairs staring them in the face as they say it is beyond me. Good thing there are like 6 different staircases up to the top levels.

    I've also had a couple of experiences this year being told that GA tickets are sold out when trying to get friends in to games that were anything but sold out. And it's happened before this year, too.

    Blatantly lying to members isn't good enough. I know it's more to do with Ticketek and the SCG, but the Swans should demand more from their service providers.
    I have a reserved seat membership so it doesn't affect me personally, but I've heard of this sort of thing happening at every Swans home game so far this season - where Ticketek has labelled categories of seating as being "sold out" when they aren't. Even while I was walking past the ticket windows to get to the gate, one of the categories was shown on the boards at the gate as sold out - even though anyone looking inside the ground could clearly see that it wasn't.

    If it happened once, OK, technical computer glitches happen. But the fact that this has happened at every game at the SCG so far this season is completely unacceptable - and the Swans should be seeking answers from Ticketek over why this is happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Moore View Post
    That was a disgrace. I was told that the upstairs level of the Victor Trumper was "sold out" when trying to get some friends who'd bought GA tickets up to sit with us in the red zone, given it was raining and there were free seats everywhere on the top level. How people can argue that a section is sold out when there are thousands of empty chairs staring them in the face as they say it is beyond me. Good thing there are like 6 different staircases up to the top levels.

    I've also had a couple of experiences this year being told that GA tickets are sold out when trying to get friends in to games that were anything but sold out. And it's happened before this year, too.

    Blatantly lying to members isn't good enough. I know it's more to do with Ticketek and the SCG, but the Swans should demand more from their service providers.

    But Sydneysiders do love a whinge about weather/time slots/traffic/whatever, as evidenced by this thread. Compared to Melbournites, they're bloody soft.

    Seriously, people in Sydney would have you believe Melbourne football supporters are carried to the game on individual palanquins by teams of oiled eunuchs, and that's what accounts for the good crowds.

    The fact is they're more committed to their teams and less inclined to whinge about minor inconveniences. They face bad weather, @@@@ transport and unhelpful time slots, but they still get to games
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    Seriously, most Sydneysiders care very little about what Melbourne football supporters do or dont do. Most would just ask what else is there to do in Melbourne?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    Huh? Is it 1989 or is it 1996? The correct answer was round 2, 1996, when we drew 10,965 to watch us play Freo. And I think you mean 'Swans game at the SCG' not 'smallest crowd at the SCG', as the Roos drew 7k when they played Port Adelaide at the SCG (what a marketers' nightmare!) in 2000.

    It's a tough competitive market; in some ways GWS can make things better for the Swans (mostly with the 2 local derbies a year), but in many ways they will make things tougher, and I'm sure everyone associated with the Swans went into 2012 with open eyes in that respect.
    Yes, you're right. I missed counting the Freo game in 1996. And yes, I did mean 'Swans game at the SCG'.

    I still think the way in which we lost to the Tigers and the Saints did us a lot of damage in the fickle Sydney market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stellation View Post
    It was pretty awful weather, I don't really frown on anyone who didn't get along to the game.
    Neither do I.
    I stayed at home with family and friends, cooked a risotto with pancetta and saffron, drank way too much and had a thoroughly nice time.....and funnily enough... I don't even feel the slightest bit guilty.
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    The 3.15 Sunday timeslot is a shocker in my book and will always struggle to draw a crowd, especially if the weather is poor like today. By the time you get out of Moore Park and if you have any amount of distance to drive, you can remove any productive use of Sunday night from the equation.

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    Yes, I am serious that I don't really frown on anyone who didn't get along to the game. Are you serious that because of one small crowd the Swans should be playing at another team's home ground?
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    Maybe it's a reflection of the time slot, I'm not a fan of these twilight games, it really is a time slot that is betwixt and between.

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